[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.

[pndwal]

I did not find where it was mentioned but, basically release is the 'lite' version.
The debug version is the 'heavy' version including extra logging and more for debugging the Magisk build.

I might be wrong but..

Both canary (release) and debug are released at the same time and John does not specify a difference between the two.
They both point back to the latest commit at the time of their release.

Magisk [GitHub] - Release new canary build
magisk-files [GitHub] - Update Canary Channel: Upstream to 9183a0a6

magisk-files [GitHub] - Commit history.​

So I assume the current debug version is still just the debug version of the canary build.

The current Magisk build script.
./build.py --help

usage: build.py [-h] [-r] [-v] [-c CONFIG] {all,binary,app,stub,emulator,avd_patch,clean,ndk} ...

Magisk build script


optional arguments:
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit
  -r, --release         compile in release mode
  -v, --verbose         verbose output
  -c CONFIG, --config CONFIG
                        custom config file (default: config.prop)

actions:
  {all,binary,app,stub,emulator,avd_patch,clean,ndk}
    all                 build everything
    binary              build binaries
    app                 build the Magisk app
    stub                build the stub app
    emulator            setup AVD for development
    avd_patch           patch AVD ramdisk.img
    clean               cleanup
    ndk                 setup Magisk NDK

Cheers.

Close, but not quite right; this is still correct:

Just a minor note: Magisk Canary is now app-release, not app-debug...

If you installed app-debug, you're either on an old Canary build, or you've installed new Debug instead of Canary...

The 'debug version of the canary build' (built with debug build flag) is not now considered 'Canary', but 'Debug', and not suitable for daily use...

The Canary designation has been re-purposed for builds built with release build flag and deemed suitable for daily use...

Previously, only workflow files built with debug build-flags were supplied to Canary ( https://github.com/topjohnwu/magisk-files/tree/canary ) repo (although likely files built with release flags were actually produced). Ie. we had:

... We now have:

supplied.

The change is that app-debug.apk has become the package for the new Debug channel (ie. it is no longer 'Canary' per se), and app-release.apk is now the new Canary... John clarified that 'Canary is now built as release'...

Confusion probably comes from the fact that the magisk-files canary-tree repo is still used for both, but this of course makes sense considering they are always synced builds produced in tandem so that Debug is simply the debug build of new Canary releases with a new name. (Actually the notes.md file is shared at present)...

This can also be seen by examining the JSON sets at https://github.com/topjohnwu/magisk-files
where canary.json calls app-release.apk and debug.json calls app-debug.apk, but these are the same synced builds hosted at a common URL per commit...

As mentioned, Canary can be used for daily use going forward, but 'Debug builds should only be used if you are actively developing Magisk, or if you want to submit bug reports'. Especially once proposed changes (adding symbols and maybe some sanitizers, and enabling core dumps on debug executables for better debugging and auditing) are made, Debug should not be used daily. 'These changes can be an issue on older devices, and could significantly affect performance'
www.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1525753967954628608

PW

 

[Lossani]

he uses Magisk Delta, a fork of Magisk, which supports the old MagiskHide method. Apparently Yape detects Zygisk which could not be fully hidden by Shamiko. There is another thread on Magisk Delta.

I tried that app but same problem

 

[dohanin]

I tried that app but same problem

I'm not sure, but at least you have to enable MagiskHide, disable Zygisk and add Yape to Denylist. Check if you can pass Satetynet first as always.

 

[angelomb]

What did you do to pass Yape verification?

I use magisk delta, work with bank apps

 

[huskydg]

reversed

 

[itt533]

so far i enabled app hiding feature in magisk, installed denylistunmount (and disabled "enforce denylist") and safetynetfix modules and put banking apps in denylist. Two banking apps seem to work, at least they don't complain. Not yet tried logging and everything... but gpay is showing a blank screen and seems to hang only. G-play says "device is not certified".

 

[pndwal]

reversed

Why?

 

[73sydney]

Why?

maybe he's lysdexic and meant reserved?

 

[Ace_Cole]

reversed

I found out on latest update of "App cloner", I couldn't avoid it detecting root.. I updated from magisk TJW 23.0 official to fork magisk delta 25.1 if incase it will work but no way.. root still detected. Check attached snapshots.
Zygisk disabled
Magisk hide enabled
App added on denylist

 

[J.Michael]

I found out on latest update of "App cloner", I couldn't avoid it detecting root.. I updated from magisk TJW 23.0 official to fork magisk delta 25.1 if incase it will work but no way.. root still detected. Check attached snapshots.
Zygisk disabled
Magisk hide enabled
App added on denylist

And if you press OK and relaunch the app?

 

[huskydg]

I found out on latest update of "App cloner", I couldn't avoid it detecting root.. I updated from magisk TJW 23.0 official to fork magisk delta 25.1 if incase it will work but no way.. root still detected. Check attached snapshots.
Zygisk disabled
Magisk hide enabled
App added on denylist

This is warning from your system security app, not from the app itself

 

[Ace_Cole]

And if you press OK and relaunch the app?

It would launch normally and ignore root, but if I unroot my device, it open normally without that screen.. I'm only concern that it still could detect root after hiding it, and installing those other hidden modules.

Also Magisk detector still see su file exist in path and init.rc modified

Any way to know specific means those app uses in getting root? And how to block it?

 

[Ace_Cole]

This is warning from your system security app, not from the app itself

How to solve this? I use Xiaomi Redmi 9 android 10. Thanks

 

[zgfg]

How to solve this? I use Xiaomi Redmi 9 android 10. Thanks

Are you asking about com.miui.securitycenter

Did you add it to DenyList?
See the screenshots

You might need to enable Show System and Show OS apps to be able to see in the Magisk app, Configure DenyList

Alternatively (if it won't show in Configure DenyList), DenyList can be managed through the Terminal:

su
magisk --denylist ls
magisk --denylist add com.miui.securitycenter
magisk --denylist ls

 

[Ace_Cole]

Are you asking about com.miui.securitycenter

Did you add it to DenyList?
See the screenshots

You might need to enable Show System and Show OS apps to be able to see in the Magisk app, Configure DenyList

Alternatively (if it won't show in Configure DenyList), DenyList can be managed through the Terminal:

su
magisk --denylist ls
magisk --denylist add com.miui.securitycenter
magisk --denylist ls

Okay thanks. I'll try that and give feedback.

 

[zgfg]

Okay thanks. I'll try that and give feedback.

But I see now that you started by asking about App Cloner

I don't see App Cloner in the MIUI Security. If that App Cloner is a third party app, then adding Security to DenyList would have no effect/not help

Then I don't know why somebody recommended you to add MIUI Security to DenyList - my previous post was exclusively about adding Security to DenyList (since I remember that with some MIUI version and/or some Magisk version, Security was not showing in DenyList or in MagiskHide and I needed to be added through CLI in Terminal)

 

[Ace_Cole]

But I see now that you started by asking about App Cloner

I don't see App Cloner in the MIUI Security. If that App Cloner is a third party app, then adding Security to DenyList would have no effect/not help

Then I don't know why somebody recommended you to add MIUI Security to DenyList - my previous post was exclusively about adding Security to DenyList (since I remember that with some MIUI version and/or some Magisk version, Security was not showing in DenyList or in MagiskHide and I needed to be added through CLI in Terminal)

Yes..

I was about to post an update because adding MIUI Security Center doesn't help either.

"App cloner" is a third party app. But I can't get it to stop detecting root since the last update. I configured everything but still can't get it to stop bringing the root detected warning before starting.. that's my issue which I hope to get solution from great developers . Thanks

 

[aiamuzz]

Hi,

Don't know if this is the right place ... anyways ...

Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail · Issue #6063 · topjohnwu/Magisk

Hi, Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail Is this how its going to be our is there something I can do and have these banking apps up and working ?

github.com

Firstly I don't have a clue why my github issue got closed by a bot.

Secondly I need help to get the Banking app working ...

Any help appreciated.

thanks.

 

[emyaqin]

Hi,

Don't know if this is the right place ... anyways ...

Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail · Issue #6063 · topjohnwu/Magisk

Hi, Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail Is this how its going to be our is there something I can do and have these banking apps up and working ?

github.com

Firstly I don't have a clue why my github issue got closed by a bot.

Secondly I need help to get the Banking app working ...

Any help appreciated.

thanks.

Use Shamiko or DenyList Unmount, disable Enforce DenyList

 

[martyfender]

Hi,

Don't know if this is the right place ... anyways ...

Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail · Issue #6063 · topjohnwu/Magisk

Hi, Safetynet : Pass, yet Banking apps detect root and fail Is this how its going to be our is there something I can do and have these banking apps up and working ?

github.com

Firstly I don't have a clue why my github issue got closed by a bot.

Secondly I need help to get the Banking app working ...

Any help appreciated.

thanks.

Please report issues using the latest debug Magisk build (version code: 25101)

Are you on the latest debug build of magisk? You must be to report issues.