[Discussion] SAYGUS V2

[JabbaMac]

Saygus clarified on Twitter that it does not have an FM transmitter, but it does have an IR transmitter.

 

[MadBob]

There is no FM Transmitter, it was a misunderstanding by another twitter poster, Saygus corrected straight away.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I suppose it is just as much an incorrect statement to stand up for them and insist it will come, as it is assume they are going to defraud people and call it vaporware.

In the end it comes down to the type of person you are, Trusting or Cynical.

I am an early purchaser, and if I couldn't afford to take this limited risk and wait for the handset, I would have asked for a refund and gone on my way.

Yes, they have not been the best communicators from the start but they are improving in leaps and bounds, all this waste-of-e paper speculation is pointless. you have two choices:
1. wait and see
2. get a refund and piss off

Either way this endless speculation is getting juvenile and boring, at the end you will either look a tit when I get my phone, or I will when I don't. and it is a risk I am willing to take for the spec's on offer.

 

[Shadoe_Lance]

Preliminary investigation for criminal and securities fraud..

Anyone know if this is ongoing or current? Found this on a google search of Saygus Inc.
http://coltledger.com/2014/11/saygus-inc-is-under-preliminary-investigation/

 

[MadBob]

While looking into that I found info about Colt Ledger Assc (supposedly investigating saygus) saying they are con artists. guess you can find anything on the internet!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/ColtL...CAMMED-ME-BEWARE-HES-A-CON-ARTIST-Moss-818675

Obviously, when he's not busy forming aliases, Mr. Hill is hard at work forming a perception that he is actually a legitimate business man by forming "paper" companies that are merely nothing more than a webpage. Why else would he avoid the Better Business Bureau (BBB)? A business like his would surely benefit from participation with the BBB, since becoming a member would show a support for and willingness to engage in ethical business practices. Right? Doubtedly. These hollow entities are referred to as "Smythe & Wesson" and "Colt Ledger & Associates," but make no mistake, there are no associates. Try looking for a physical address, fax number, or phone number for these so-called businesses and all you'll find is a PO Box, an online questionnaire, and a myriad of VOIP numbers that ring a single cell phone, undoubtedly in Tomkinsville, KY.

 

[Shadoe_Lance]

I guess that's not saying much about either one. Although ripoff report really isn't that good either. Which is why I asked in the first place.

 

[vertigo_2_20]

My guess is since there's been absolutely nothing on it since it was initially mentioned on their website in November, even if it was legitimate nothing came of it. Because the other two options would be that they were found to be guilty, in which case, you'd be able to find info on that and it's unlikely they'd be doing what they're doing now, or they would still be under investigation, in which case they would have to tread lightly, something they're not really doing right now.

 

[SymbianRefugee]

I've never heard of an FM transmitter being included in any smartphone

Several Nokia models had it.

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you have two choices:
1. wait and see
2. get a refund and piss off

Sorry Dad, I did read the forum rules and never saw that mentioned. Since we are making up rules as we go along I decided to add another option to the multiple choice:

3. Make a noise and try to get information so I/we can make an informed decision on the above two options.

They do read this forum you know.

 

[MadBob]

No problem Son. you'll soon grow up enough to realise (probably when you get brats of your own) that making a noise has the opposite effect than what you desire. and I'm sure they do spend some time reading on here, but at the moment they are doing a reasonable job on informing everyone.

I feel there is no point harping on about shipping dates, or do you really think it will get the phone to you faster? they have already stated that no dates will be forthcoming until they get the phones in their hands, it will come when it is ready. so have a little patience or seek option 2.

of course there is always option 4.

Forum rules? these aren't forum rules, they are the choices you have with the Saygus V"

 

[SymbianRefugee]

I am sorry, you seem to have me confused with someone else.

Here let me state my aims again, with extra emphasis:

3. Make a noise and TRY to get information so I/we can make an informed decision on the above two options.

Unless you are Saygus then I don't think this is actually your call.

 

[Courtoman]

... it was important to find the most immediate avenue available to them to leverage whatever they could to increase cash on hand, and this cash was basically being thrown at them. indiegogo people are the ultimate risk takers with this situation, basically a big gamble. they are owed nothing at this point. i guess there is a good chance they put preorder funds into the campaign, also, as some have mentioned. as saygus says on the indiegogo page,

Just to clarify what was on the Saygus Indiegogo page in case people missed it:

This complete and utter lack of communication on the shipping dates is comical, reminds me of "The Cone of Silence" on Maxwell Smart where it always turns out for the worst.

They must have known weeks before 22nd May they were going to miss the shipping dates (or did they magically have the necessary certifications on an unfinished phone?), and they continue their lies until today.

Now they have started a new campaign and we seem to have lost importance as the new campaign brings in a wave of new and enthusiastic customers (indiefunders) with all sorts of stupid requests - can we have a phablet, can you put all hte buttons on the other side, can you make another fundamental change that'll take months to re-engineer - and Saygus respond to all these "fools" hoping to score some more "fools" gold. And yet they constantly ignore us, the original customers who really do deserve a lot better from them.

Agreed emphatically. But just to clarify:

Nice summary of events. I couldn't agree more and I totally empathize.

But be careful, there is a whole host of lurkers that will come out of the bushes any second now to tell you to STFU for not limiting your posts to positive blurbs about Saygus. I could forgive the previous amateurism as soon as they start acting like professionals. And the first step for a turn around is to accurately estimate a timeline and release a schedule for the 1400 or so of us still left waiting. Especially when they told us after the last delivery shipment date past that they'd be shipping in weeks, not months. I don't think it is lying or a scam, I just think it is incompetence. Eventually they'll get it together but not without a bunch of continued bumbling first.

Yup...agree with this too.

I still believe the phone will come out, there's no denying it. They have become too public to stop now.

However....the whole May 22nd debacle was made obscene by the twitter "promises/comments" preceding in the couple of days before hand as @SymbianRefugee pointed out. That was a low point and should never have happened. Saygus really cooked the goose on that one.

Again however....I think the turn around in the company has been positive and the forward momentum is there. I'll give it another couple of weeks since they delivered the videos like they said they would.

Currently waiting on the unboxing from @NewMediaRockstars

 

[Steven_Richard]

There is no FM Transmitter, it was a misunderstanding by another twitter poster, Saygus corrected straight away.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I suppose it is just as much an incorrect statement to stand up for them and insist it will come, as it is assume they are going to defraud people and call it vaporware.

In the end it comes down to the type of person you are, Trusting or Cynical.

I am an early purchaser, and if I couldn't afford to take this limited risk and wait for the handset, I would have asked for a refund and gone on my way.

Yes, they have not been the best communicators from the start but they are improving in leaps and bounds, all this waste-of-e paper speculation is pointless. you have two choices:
1. wait and see
2. get a refund and piss off

Either way this endless speculation is getting juvenile and boring, at the end you will either look a tit when I get my phone, or I will when I don't. and it is a risk I am willing to take for the spec's on offer.

It was a misunderstanding on Saygus. The twitter person answered my question which was does the V2 have an FM transmitter? As on the factory fingerprint video about half way we see the icons in the V2 and one is FM radio and the other is FM tx. The twitter person said that it did have a transmitter and it worked great then said something about an FM party... I was kinda confused but went along with it as I had seen the FX tx icon. But then he said wait it's an FM receiver and not Transmitter...
FM transmitter would of been an awesome feature for cars without Bluetooth.
Ahh well only Nokia had that luxury.

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[SymbianRefugee]

Ahh well only Nokia had that luxury.

It seems the race is on! Who will get their phone out first?

Brace yourself, planet Earth, says Nokia CEO – our phones ARE coming back from mid-2016
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/19/nokia_phones_2016/

;P

 

[aspid667]

It's getting better every day: "We haven't sent any devices out for review yet, but it's in the works in coming weeks."
https://twitter.com/Saygus/status/612752159847768064

Very strange marketing strategy. If devices are final and functioning well (with minor glitches), then any positive review from reputable source will boost the sales dramatically. Still doing the very same mistakes? Month delay from originally advertised shipping date and still "coming weeks"?

 

[phixeus]

Wikipedia tells us the following about family: "Family" is used metaphorically to create more inclusive categories such as community, nationhood, global village and humanism.

I think that in the context of a community of a shared interest, we are family. We are all trying to achieve, follow, contribute and foster a common objective. That is all of us; Saygus, XDA, Facebook, Google+, Twitter, et al., however we chose to go about it individually. Saygus has said if not implied the same as they ask for us to demonstrate some of the attributes of family such as faith and loyalty.

In my observations, I have also noticed Saygus really driving home the point that we are all family through action rather than words as they conscientiously follow the 6th Rule of Acquisition.

 

[ridcully1]

Crowdfunding..

I don't understand some of you, guys.
Of course, all of us would like to hold this phone in our hands - the sooner, the better. And some of you are really p***d due the ongoing delay of the assumed delivery date.
But.. this is normal for such projects. If I compare to other crowdfunding campains (for example SCiO, the have shifted the delivery date until now for more than 9 Months).
I don't understand, why you ugly around that much!

 

[Shadoe_Lance]

I don't understand some of you, guys.
Of course, all of us would like to hold this phone in our hands - the sooner, the better. And some of you are really p***d due the ongoing delay of the assumed delivery date.
But.. this is normal for such projects. If I compare to other crowdfunding campains (for example SCiO, the have shifted the delivery date until now for more than 9 Months).
I don't understand, why you ugly around that much!

Because I for one originally Pre-Ordered.. Not Crowd funded...

 

[phixeus]

Because I for one originally Pre-Ordered.. Not Crowd funded...

I didn't see any warning or notifications about ship dates slipping or conversion to crowd funding 4 months down the road when I ordered either. And I'm sure that someone will chime in to say well you should have known better since they were a start up, buyer beware blah blah. Nope, I took them at their word that they could and would do what they said.

Now I understand better that they can and will do the job just at their own bumbling pace. I now understand that they have have no ability to schedule milestones and customer service/communication are of very low importance to them, even now. Customer service is more than, "Please submit your request for refund on our website."

If they had prominently labeled those facts when they opened preorder, I might have made a different choice. Months later, in for a penny, in for a pound. I'll stick it out and when I get it I get it.

 

[Freaky Beanie]

I think that the past of Saygus is a contributing factor for anger. Delay can happen but 2 delays after a company failed to deliver a phone in the past is harder to swallow.

 

[trompeusz]

I asked for the refund in 28th May, and I still got nothing.
They ignore my e-mails, my tickets, my tweets.
THEY ARE JUST THIEVES!!!!!
They don't want to give our money back. I think all who said in this forum, that they got their money back, they was saygus employees, who want to mislead us, and to make us trust in Saygus.

Don't trust them!!!!

There is no FM Transmitter, it was a misunderstanding by another twitter poster, Saygus corrected straight away.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I suppose it is just as much an incorrect statement to stand up for them and insist it will come, as it is assume they are going to defraud people and call it vaporware.

In the end it comes down to the type of person you are, Trusting or Cynical.

I am an early purchaser, and if I couldn't afford to take this limited risk and wait for the handset, I would have asked for a refund and gone on my way.

Yes, they have not been the best communicators from the start but they are improving in leaps and bounds, all this waste-of-e paper speculation is pointless. you have two choices:
1. wait and see
2. get a refund and piss off

Either way this endless speculation is getting juvenile and boring, at the end you will either look a tit when I get my phone, or I will when I don't. and it is a risk I am willing to take for the spec's on offer.

 

[strikelight]

I asked for the refund in 28th May, and I still got nothing.
They ignore my e-mails, my tickets, my tweets.
THEY ARE JUST THIEVES!!!!!
They don't want to give our money back. I think all who said in this forum, that they got their money back, they was saygus employees, who want to mislead us, and to make us trust in Saygus.

Don't trust them!!!!

Still waiting on mine as well from about that time..i reopened the ticket, and they told me they were forwarding the matter to their accounting department and to give it a couple days for them to respond. It's been a few days and still waiting, but I realize the weekend doesn't count, so I'll wait a bit more.


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