[Discussion] SAYGUS V2

pah2602

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I was really looking forward for this phone.. I would have even prefered it over the upcoming Nexus devices.
But now, after all the delays, I'm not willing to spend a rather larger amount of money to preorder a phone from a company thats struggling even before the phones released..
Due to the period of time during it's announcement and the actual release.. the used components are still a unique combination out of a geeks dream, but to be honest.. Parts of it are already outdatet..
(SD 801, no Typ-C etc)..

Soo.. next Nexus: here I come :p Until then my N5 does its job pretty good.
It does have USB Typ-C

Allegedly
 
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SymbianRefugee

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does anyone know what type of receiver for the Qi charging the V2 uses? it does not appear to be built in on top of the batteries in the videos i have seen so that means it is in the back cover in some fashion as to avoid interfering with the fractal antenna or via a third party pad. in the video about the Qi charging it just shows the device being placed on the station and makes no mention of the receiver.
Does the video show Qi charging, or does it just demonstrate a brick being placed on a Qi charger?
 
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does anyone know what type of receiver for the Qi charging the V2 uses? it does not appear to be built in on top of the batteries in the videos i have seen so that means it is in the back cover in some fashion as to avoid interfering with the fractal antenna or via a third party pad. in the video about the Qi charging it just shows the device being placed on the station and makes no mention of the receiver.
Wireless chargers all work the same some may have different out puts but all work the same
 

Soltkemecsei

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There are people on both sides of the coin. Those with hope and those that understand (past history) the reality of the situation.
A few days ago Darth, forum moderator asked to "keep the thread constructive and respectful".
I do not see any respect in your above statement, you simply declare that those who agree with you are the ones who understand the reality.
This is what many of us feel as negative post.
You as a forum moderator should have a clear understanding of this.
It is nonsense that someone can say like "I'm a photoshop master and I see artifacts around the logo, they are liars", and if someone asks, "wait, these are artifacts that most modern phones produce due to their built-in post processing algorithms, and these images were uploaded to twitter, where they also apply a set of size-optimizing image processing". Then the response is that "lmao, you are a tool, rotfl a robot, lol a consumer zombie ...". And even when the videos published later clearly show that the logo is there, and is not photoshopped, these wannabe experts go on with their childish attitude. Most anyone else would have silently go away after such a fiasco, but they keep on doing their show, assisted by you, as a forum moderator.
 
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A few days ago Darth, forum moderator asked to "keep the thread constructive and respectful".
I do not see any respect in your above statement, you simply declare that those who agree with you are the ones who understand the reality.
This is what many of us feel as negative post.
You as a forum moderator should have a clear understanding of this.
It is nonsense that someone can say like "I'm a photoshop master and I see artifacts around the logo, they are liars", and if someone asks, "wait, these are artifacts that most modern phones produce due to their built-in post processing algorithms, and these images were uploaded to twitter, where they also apply a set of size-optimizing image processing". Then the response is that "lmao, you are a tool, rotfl a robot, lol a consumer zombie ...". And even when the videos published later clearly show that the logo is there, and is not photoshopped, these wannabe experts go on with their childish attitude. Most anyone else would have silently go away after such a fiasco, but they keep on doing their show, assisted by you, as a forum moderator.
That was in now way negative at all. He simply stated a fact. You do have 2 sides to the coin. One with people holding out hope and one with people that see the reality of what is going on. Hope is a powerful thing and can easily blind people to the truth.
 

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That was in now way negative at all. He simply stated a fact. You do have 2 sides to the coin. One with people holding out hope and one with people that see the reality of what is going on. Hope is a powerful thing and can easily blind people to the truth.
And it is so funny to observe how "reality" changes for 180 degrees after moderator canceled preorder.
 

SymbianRefugee

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History lesson seems in order, Saygus have been here before in the same situation, too point this out is not being disrespectful.

Saygus past history http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391036,00.asp

"Remember the Saygus VPhone? A powerful Android smartphone, it got a lot of press in late 2009 and promptly vanished. Coming from a company nobody had ever heard of, we anointed it one of "6 Amazing Cell Phone Failures" in early 2011."
 

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If this was some super innovative technology. The wait might be worth it. The problem is, it's not. It's simply a phone with a lot of everything but that everything can get outdated. Sad truth is the longer they wait to launch this the more outdated the technology in the phone becomes. 808? 810? By Xmas these CPUs will no longer be in the latest and greatest. so then now you have a new phone coming out with last year's chip. And not a good one at that. Not to mention seems that really need to be put through their paces haven't even been tested. 1 is the camera. HTC is the perfect example of a company that can put an excellent camera and our phones but not have the software to back it up.
 

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Does the video show Qi charging, or does it just demonstrate a brick being placed on a Qi charger?
well, if it is a brick then it is a brick with a tone and light

---------- Post added at 07:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:34 PM ----------

Wireless chargers all work the same some may have different out puts but all work the same
but they all do not have the same receiver design. industry has 3 concepts at least. the receiver is generally placed over the battery as part of thephone structure, built into the back cover of the phone, or built into a pad which can be placed inside the back cover or outside the back cover. i was asking which design saygus is using.
 

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If it doesn't meet the deadline it most definitely should. The purpose of a preorder is to get in line to get the product ASAP after it ships, and to get it at a reduced price in return for giving your money over early and supporting the company by buying their product. The intention of preorders is simply to buy a product before it's available, but it's a contract nonetheless. People are confusing that with a kickstarter-like purchase, which is NOT the same. If you preorder a video game, you're agreeing to buy it when it comes out on a certain date. If the video game doesn't come out, you will get your money back. Nobody can or should be expected to preorder something like a phone, therefore expecting it on a certain date, then be held to that order when the phone doesn't come out when expected, or in this case, for months after. The company did not hold up their end of the contract, so it is null and void and the consumer can get their money back so they can buy a different phone, instead of going without because their money is tied up. That said, nobody should preorder something like this if they can't afford to buy something else without getting a refund if absolutely need be, but another scenario would be that if somebody needed a new phone by now, even if they could afford to buy one while Saygus still had their money, it should not fall on them to then have to essentially buy two phones because Saygus didn't meet their deadlineS (yes, the 's' is capitalized on purpose). I can't imagine any court that would not side with the consumer if Saygus didn't want to give the money back. They're not doing it to keep everyone happy, they're doing it because otherwise they'd get chargebacks, which would kill them, and they'd get sued, which they would lose.
You're making the assumption that customers are getting a refund because they can't afford it. Not to start an argument, but if they can't afford it, then they wouldn't have bought in the first place. Obviously not the case. Perhaps you don't realize that a large # of pre-orderers actually have principles and expectations? Literally, I pre-ordered that phone FIVE months ago.....and it still ain't out..:confused:
 
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You're making the assumption that customers are getting a refund because they can't afford it. Not to start an argument, but if they can't afford it, then they wouldn't have bought in the first place. Obviously not the case. Perhaps you don't realize that a large # of pre-orderers actually have principles and expectations? Literally, I pre-ordered that phone FIVE months ago.....and it still ain't out..:confused:
I didn't make that assumption at all. I stated that there are people in that category, but also that people that can't afford it probably shouldn't do preorders. And I also said "another scenario would be that if somebody needed a new phone by now, even if they could afford to buy one while Saygus still had their money, it should not fall on them to then have to essentially buy two phones..." I know a lot of people that preordered, myself included, can afford to buy another phone even with the money tied up in the preorder. But that doesn't mean we should have to. And in my situation, I needed a new phone, since my previous one broke. I could manage for a while with a cheap temp phone, but only for so long. Not for several months. Does that mean I should have to spend more money, even if I can afford it, to buy a new phone, only to then get the V2 when it finally arrives, even though I wouldn't need it anymore since I now have a different phone. No. I got a refund and bought a different phone, and that's now my phone for the foreseeable future. Just because I can afford it and the V2, doesn't mean I should have to spend my money on the V2 now that I have been forced, through Saygus' failure to meet their deadlines, to go with a different phone.
 

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That was in now way negative at all. He simply stated a fact. You do have 2 sides to the coin. One with people holding out hope and one with people that see the reality of what is going on. Hope is a powerful thing and can easily blind people to the truth.
I can understand you as a human being, but the ideal (and the minimum for your role) would be if you did not see the world this flat.
Even if accepting one had this attitude, it is still hard for me to understand, why to believe in "the" truth which fundamentals are laid down by interest-speculators and wannabe masters without any care of the facts (eg. refunds) and their own mistakes.