[Discussion] SAYGUS V2

[xtermmin]

Newest CES 2017 V Squared making 4G GSM calls:

Uhhh from what I can tell, those aren't going over 4G, as there is no connection type indicator in the status bar.

 

[andreas5232]

it's been~ 2 months since that fellow in germany updated his saygus site so i guess this adventure is finally over for him also.

Nice guess, but the main reason for my site being "outdated" is the lack of noteworthy news and the fact that I'm currently having exams.

Sorry BTW for not mentioning that the VSQUARED is now being able to do Dual-SIM calls. Totally missed that! What an awesome video...

AFAIK Saygus is currently getting ready for MWC in Barcelona, but I don't know if they have new devices to show or just the ones from January 2017.

 

[SymbianRefugee]

Most likely just the ones from 2015

 

[MoveAlong77]

Wow, don't know what made me think about revisiting this thread, but no surprise to see that these scammers never shipped anything. And, seems like they're still spewing their bull****? I got my refund after the very first delay announcement and was glad I did. I feel sorry for anyone gullible enough to still be sticking around!

 

[dkryder]

i read that saygus did a tweet that we should all stay tuned for big news on fcc certification. do not hold your breath, though. care to wager a guess on what the big news is? my guess is they have resubmitted phone and just need to wait to hear back from fcc. same thing they did last year.

 

[Cullenator]

i read that saygus did a tweet that we should all stay tuned for big news on fcc certification. do not hold your breath, though. care to wager a guess on what the big news is? my guess is they have resubmitted phone and just need to wait to hear back from fcc. same thing they did last year.

Looks like they did! Who knows? I get the feeling they are actually going to release the phone soon, but I'm expecting it to be a dumpster fire of bugs, shipping delays, and broken promises. You know, the usual Saygus stuff.

What would be sad is if it actually turned out to be a good phone, because at this point, I don't think ANYONE who didn't hold on to their preorder would buy their phone.

 

[Cullenator]

Android Police posted a nice analysis on Saygus' story so far: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...grade-because-who-even-believes-this-anymore/

 

[phone sound 2]

More nonsense from Saygus...!

Back in early March 2017, Saygus said their VP of sales ran LG's sales for 9 years (sales of what)? Why would a
person leave a world class company and end up at a flakey failed company who manufactures nothing, and has nothing to sell (except years of false promises)?

 

[xtermmin]

Blah blah FCC delays blah blah WiHD is a thing blah blah

 

[smohanv]

Has this ever been shipped yet. I requested refund and it took several in order to get my refund.

 

[Jimmy_Neutron]

Has this ever been shipped yet. I requested refund and it took several in order to get my refund.

Don't hold your breath - they haven't even posted on twitter since June 8.....

Total losers.

 

[smohanv]

Don't hold your breath - they haven't even posted on twitter since June 8.....

Total losers.

Worst precedent. This will make the crowd wanting to encourage new products to think weather it is worth helping on crowd funding.

Saygus has set a worst example.

 

[Cullenator]

Be sure to check out their twitter... Once again, they're totally super-duper-pinky-promise-winking-face-emoji hoping to... have "news soon". Everybody hold your breath. Or don't, actually.

 

[PXL42]

from Saygus :
"Passed the FCC! Filling out paperwork now. Some LTE bands still in process... its the 'crawl through mud to paradise' of startup reality!"

 

[xtermmin]

from Saygus :
"Passed the FCC! Filling out paperwork now. Some LTE bands still in process... its the 'crawl through mud to paradise' of startup reality!"

FCC's site doesn't show any new entry for Saygus, so either they submitted it under a different name, or they're just lying again. (most likely the later)

 

[Cullenator]

FCC listings

FCC's site doesn't show any new entry for Saygus, so either they submitted it under a different name, or they're just lying again. (most likely the later)

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm

I just checked and you're correct. If anyone else wants to check to confirm, note that there are 4 grantee codes for Saygus that you need to search: XP3, 2ANBX, 2ANBY, and 2ANBZ. (I found these by using the "Grantee Search" for all companies in South Jordan, Utah). As of this post, XP3 is the only grantee code that yields any results (4 of them, to be exact), and all of them are from 2009. So yeah, either they're lying or perhaps the FCC site just doesn't list grants until they're finalized or whatever. Who knows?

I certainly am never buying a phone from this company even if they do ever manage to actually make one, but I can't stop watching this train wreck out of morbid curiosity at this point.

 

[PXL42]

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm


I just checked and you're correct. If anyone else wants to check to confirm, note that there are 4 grantee codes for Saygus that you need to search: XP3, 2ANBX, 2ANBY, and 2ANBZ. (I found these by using the "Grantee Search" for all companies in South Jordan, Utah). As of this post, XP3 is the only grantee code that yields any results (4 of them, to be exact), and all of them are from 2009. So yeah, either they're lying or perhaps the FCC site just doesn't list grants until they're finalized or whatever. Who knows?



I certainly am never buying a phone from this company even if they do ever manage to actually make one, but I can't stop watching this train wreck out of morbid curiosity at this point.

The paperwork still needs to be filed which can explains why we can’t find it on the FCC website yet

 

[Cullenator]

The paperwork still needs to be filed which can explains why we can’t find it on the FCC website yet

Yeah, that's one possible reason. However, given how many times they've claimed to be ready to ship before, but then (of course) failing to deliver anything, I'm inclined to believe this is just more nonsense to keep stringing along the few backers they have left. I honestly wouldn't put anything past these guys at this point.

On another point, here's an interesting comment by user "Tim Darkinsaw" here that says their office seems to be deserted these days: http://www.droid-life.com/2017/08/14/guys-saygus-v2-supposedly-passed-fcc/#comment-3469351591 (You'll have to scroll down and click "Show Comments". It looks like Droid-Life's Disqus permalinks are broken...)

I take the train that stops near their office every day. Because I'm one of the people that paid a bunch of cash on a pre-order I got curious and tried to go talk to them. I figured it'd be a bunch of people crowded around tables getting stuff done. But their office has been empty and dark every day I went (and I tried a lot). Finally I asked somebody that works in the same building about it and they just laughed and said that their offices are almost completely empty, that they paid a huge amount of money to lease enough space to get their name on the building but that they have almost nobody working there.
After I heard about their "FCC Approval" I went and looked for it. Nothing is there. There's no phone and no FCC filing. This company has been misleading everyone. It would be one thing for them to say, "We failed. Sorry". It's another thing entirely to spend a ton of pre-order cash to lease a ton of building space and then not use it and then keep telling lies in order to string people along. And all along they aren't even showing up to their own office to work! This sounds like a lawsuit in the making.

 

[PXL42]

maybe, if Saygus lies, why recent registrations on FCC ?

4 Grantees Were Found That Match the Search Criteria:
Address: 10421 South Jordan Gateway
Displaying records 1 through 4 of 4.

Attachments & Correspondence | Grantee Code | Grantee Name | Mailing Address | P.O. Box | City State | Country | Zip Code | Contact Name | Date Received
| XP3 | Saygus Global, Inc. | 10421 South Jordan Gateway Suite 500 | | South Jordan Utah | United States | 84095 | Tim Riker | 09/04/2009
| 2ANBX | American Smartphone, Inc. dba Saygus | 10421 South Jordan Gateway, Suite 500 | N/A | South Jordan Utah | United States | 84095 | Chad Sayers | 08/10/2017
| 2ANBY | American Smartphone, Inc. dba Saygus | 10421 South Jordan Gateway, Suite 500 | N/A | South Jordan Utah | United States | 84095 | Chad Sayers | 08/10/2017
| 2ANBZ | American Smartphone, Inc. dba Saygus | 10421 South Jordan Gateway, Suite 500 | N/A | South Jordan Utah | United States | 84095 | Chad Sayers | 08/10/2017
Perform Another Grantee Search

 

[Cullenator]

maybe, if Saygus lies, why recent registrations on FCC ?

Yes, those are the grantee codes I already listed, but searching for actual grants (the "Authorization Search" page on the FCC site) for any of those codes except for XP3 (which was created in 2009) yields no results.

Contrast that with, say, OnePlus, whose code is 2ABZ2. When you search for grants for them, you get 168 results. Even Essential Products, Inc (grantee code 2ALBB), who haven't even shipped their phone yet, have 40 grants listed.

I don't claim to be an expert on FCC certification, but you would think that if Saygus had really completed FCC certification for the V2, we'd see at least one authorization newer than 2009. Maybe the "passed the FCC" tweet is referring to them being able to register their company 3 times as a grantee? If so, they still haven't gotten FCC approval, and still have a long, long way to go if they are actually planning to ever ship a phone.