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pnsdhrn

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Been thinking the same thing, it's a shame but understandable. $600 is a large amount of money. I'm not canceling, enjoying the ride.

Yes,you have got caliber.I am with you!

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I get that it is a good chunk of money and some people NEED a new phone instead of just wanting one, which is my situation. For me, the only other phones out there I'd consider are blackberry passport or the yotafone 2, but the prices are similar and both come with major consequences. So I'm like you, gathering information, not obsessing but staying on the boat.

Salute for you too!
 

renjithrc84

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I have about 324 Apps installed on my device right now, so the internal space will be eaten up very soon. :D

And the additional SD storage will be used for some movies and music which I can consume when travelling. As I prefer FLAC as audio format it needs a lot of space, because it's uncompressed, but it gives you a way better sound experience than MP3 does. ;)

Talking about WIHD I have to admit, that I haven't any productive use case for it now, but I think it can be a lot of fun, playing on a large screen. :D

But the features I am most curious about are the fractal antenna, noise cancellation, battery saving chip and the sunlight viewable screen. They sound really great, are difficult to realise and can be a very useful enhancement of the phone, if they work as expected.

Same here,,

And I have seen everybody complaining here. But as we all know, its of no use. We are here, because we were ready to take the risk. Those who have preordered ( including me) should have thought about all of this before we placed our order. Now that we have already placed our order and lets give them some more time. Even in the mail I received when i placed my order, it is mentioned that they will let us know about the shipping date in March. And there is still more than 20 days to go. Ofcourse according to Saygus, those who want to cancel their preorder should do that within 30 days. So those who want to cancel their orders can go for it without complaining.
Didn't mean to irritate anybody, just my thoughts only.
 

jameswxt

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I have about 324 Apps installed on my device right now, so the internal space will be eaten up very soon. :D

And the additional SD storage will be used for some movies and music which I can consume when travelling. As I prefer FLAC as audio format it needs a lot of space, because it's uncompressed, but it gives you a way better sound experience than MP3 does. ;)

Talking about WIHD I have to admit, that I haven't any productive use case for it now, but I think it can be a lot of fun, playing on a large screen. :D

But the features I am most curious about are the fractal antenna, noise cancellation, battery saving chip and the sunlight viewable screen. They sound really great, are difficult to realise and can be a very useful enhancement of the phone, if they work as expected.

Hi Andreas, thanks for the reply. I believed both of us are in the same boat.. Same thought as you..
About the WiHD, I hope there is a cheaper version by Saygus.. Outside are selling at least a hundred.
300plus app is quite abit to handle.. Just want to know.. How many of those are games?
I think Fractal antenna is my most looking forward to because not many phones has implementation on that... I wonder how do I test the usability and reliability of the fractal antenna...
Hmmmm......

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pnsdhrn

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If you believe in Saygus, that's cool. If not, that's fine as well.
Just post new findings, questions, or meaningful info.
Let's keep this thread as useful as possible. :good:

+1

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Yes. I believed in Saygus.. That's cool!

Well, given that Saygus V squared as two sd card, how many of us will actually used it? I am just curious to know... 64GB of internal storage is alot to store hundreds of app.

Another thing, how many of us here actually has over a hundred app in their phone? I am one of them! :)

:):):)



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I have more than 100 in Note 2
 

BiffTirkle

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When I sent saygus a link to the forum I told them they needed more hype and news about the device. I couldn't have been the only one to suggest it. They're being more communicative which is exactly what I want.

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pnsdhrn

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Same here,,

And I have seen everybody complaining here. But as we all know, its of no use. We are here, because we were ready to take the risk. Those who have preordered ( including me) should have thought about all of this before we placed our order. Now that we have already placed our order and lets give them some more time. Even in the mail I received when i placed my order, it is mentioned that they will let us know about the shipping date in March. And there is still more than 20 days to go. Ofcourse according to Saygus, those who want to cancel their preorder should do that within 30 days. So those who want to cancel their orders can go for it without complaining.
Didn't mean to irritate anybody, just my thoughts only.

I also support you renjith. Even though I am seeing majority of negative postings in this thread among a fewest optimistic ones,and on studying the various upcoming 2015 phones from the so called major companies I arrived at the conclusion that this phone is going to be a true phone,particularly after seeing the hands on and reviews at the Barcelona MNC. Hence I ordered for this phone paying 599 USD yesterday.And my order number is 4428.I think that we should give this company particularly being a start up one sufficient time because they are developing most of our long cherished needs which the so called major companies are evading.So please convert this thread to a bit constructive.

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Wow, in this video it appears, that it is confirmed that Saygus is working with Cyanogenmod on making a ROM! Good news at least for me... Saygus V2 Hands On The Super Smartphone Youtube 2015: http://youtu.be/axpFS3R-opA

That's indeed a news to hear.And exciting one also.
 
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jameswxt

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I also support you renjith. Even though I am seeing majority of negative postings in this thread among a fewest optimistic ones,and on studying the various upcoming 2015 phones from the so called major companies I arrived at the conclusion that this phone is going to be a true phone,particularly after seeing the hands on and reviews at the Barcelona MNC. Hence I ordered for this phone paying 599 USD yesterday.And my order number is 4428.I think that we should give this company particularly being a start up one sufficient time because they are developing most of our long cherished needs which the so called major companies are evading.So please convert this thread to a bit constructive.

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That's indeed a news to hear.And exciting one also.

Hi pnsdhrn.. I thank you for ordering the superphone. And you just only order yesterday and your order no is 4428. This is indeed a very encouraging numbers. It could mean 4428 superphones ordered so far!!! Amazing!

Plus do keep in mind that any one person can order a maximum of 10 Saygys V-Squared in one invoice. If 100 people order 10 units, its 1000 units already!

Way to go Saygus!

I am sure some retailers and investors may order separately in bulk! I do know some people who order more than 10 units!

Let's continue to discuss the wonderful features of Saygus V-Squared as we await the arrival of the superphone!

It will be soon... Hang on as we bring you the phone that will rock the smartphone industry and put other major brands into hiding (probably back to their lab to do more research on customer needs and wants).

:thumbup::thumbup:




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Hi Andreas, thanks for the reply. I believed both of us are in the same boat.. Same thought as you..
About the WiHD, I hope there is a cheaper version by Saygus.. Outside are selling at least a hundred.
300plus app is quite abit to handle.. Just want to know.. How many of those are games?
I think Fractal antenna is my most looking forward to because not many phones has implementation on that... I wonder how do I test the usability and reliability of the fractal antenna...

Let's enjoy the boat ride! :D

Hasn't been an answer posted here some pages ago, where Saygus said that they will bring an affordable WIHD receiver on the market which we will be able to purchase before shipping the device?

I've only about 10 games on my phone. The rest are apps like Browser, Newsreader, Messenger, IRC- and Jabber clients and some network diagnostic tools. There are a number of apps that I need once a year, but I'm to lazy to reinstall them erverytime.... The apps for daily use are just about 15 apps, which I really need. ;)

You should notice the benefit of the fractal antenna, when you have a better signal then others have. Normally we should be able to measure this by analyzing the the signal strength as a value in dB (not only with the displayed UI bars) between two different smartphones. Additionally you should notice this feature when beeing to locations where you normally only have a weak connection or even none.
But we'll see how much this helps in reality.
 

esimon311

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Just tweeted @ team Saugus again with a link to our thread and the comment and view count... Maybe if they see how many people are on our thread someone might stop by from Saugus...y'all tweet @ them with a link to the thread also.....

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ITS OVER 9000!!
 

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Charlie Brown

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Jumping to conclusions is pointless. I have not pre-ordered. That being said I am a Saygus supporter. Why?

Because they have the guts to do what most android people really want. They have the guts to take risks and go against what's trending!

• Massive storage that's expandable and removable.
• An already big battery that's removable.
• Two awesome cameras that feature image stabilization and a tactile button for taking pictures.
• Water and dust resistant
• An awesome magnesium device chassis with Kevlar and aluminum body.
• Wireless HD streaming to almost any modern display.
• Unlocked bootloader for developers and hobbyists alike.
• Usable around the globe as it's a world phone.
• Fingerprint scanner
• Two front facing speakers from a top audio designer and engineer.

You know what? If people want to go on rants and vent that's cool. But since Saygus stated March will be when they announce the shipping date, we need to give them a chance.

A chance to bring us a bad @SS device that no one else has the guts to try and put together.

Yes, this for me and many android fans is our absolute dream phone! I want this to become reality.

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pnsdhrn

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Jumping to conclusions is pointless. I have not pre-ordered. That being said I am a Saygus supporter. Why?

Because they have the guts to do what most android people really want. They have the guts to take risks and go against what's trending!

• Massive storage that's expandable and removable.
• An already big battery that's removable.
• Two awesome cameras that feature image stabilization and a tactile button for taking pictures.
• Water and dust resistant
• An awesome magnesium device chassis with Kevlar and aluminum body.
• Wireless HD streaming to almost any modern display.
• Unlocked bootloader for developers and hobbyists alike.
• Usable around the globe as it's a world phone.
• Fingerprint scanner
• Two front facing speakers from a top audio designer and engineer.

You know what? If people want to go on rants and vent that's cool. But since Saygus stated March will be when they announce the shipping date, we need to give them a chance.

A chance to bring us a bad @SS device that no one else has the guts to try and put together.

Yes, this for me and many android fans is our absolute dream phone! I want this to become reality.

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Hi pnsdhrn.. I thank you for ordering the superphone. And you just only order yesterday and your order no is 4428. This is indeed a very encouraging numbers. It could mean 4428 superphones ordered so far!!! Amazing!

Plus do keep in mind that any one person can order a maximum of 10 Saygys V-Squared in one invoice. If 100 people order 10 units, its 1000 units already!

Way to go Saygus!

I am sure some retailers and investors may order separately in bulk! I do know some people who order more than 10 units!

Let's continue to discuss the wonderful features of Saygus V-Squared as we await the arrival of the superphone!

It will be soon... Hang on as we bring you the phone that will rock the smartphone industry and put other major brands into hiding (probably back to their lab to do more research on customer needs and wants).

:thumbup::thumbup:




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So let us go together for a superphone.

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Hi pnsdhrn.. I thank you for ordering the superphone. And you just only order yesterday and your order no is 4428. This is indeed a very encouraging numbers. It could mean 4428 superphones ordered so far!!! Amazing!

Plus do keep in mind that any one person can order a maximum of 10 Saygys V-Squared in one invoice. If 100 people order 10 units, its 1000 units already!

Way to go Saygus!

I am sure some retailers and investors may order separately in bulk! I do know some people who order more than 10 units!

Let's continue to discuss the wonderful features of Saygus V-Squared as we await the arrival of the superphone!

It will be soon... Hang on as we bring you the phone that will rock the smartphone industry and put other major brands into hiding (probably back to their lab to do more research on customer needs and wants).
:thumbup::thumbup:
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Thank you James.What we want is a creative stand.
 

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I snagged the preorder for $550 because as soon as I saw the specs it was a dream phone. No phone on the market touches it on specs, and it's a US company? Hell finding a 64GB internal phone these days is like playing whack a mole.

That being said their PR on Twitter has been shaky at best. They need help in that regard.

Moving forward I'm not canceling my preorder because I want the phone. It's as simple as that. No other phone on the market in the US has an 801, 64GB, and even a single SD card slot. And yet we're also getting QI and supposedly a great camera for $600.

The company can work on its PR and marketing, what it can't do is work on the phone, that part is set in stone. We were sold on the phone, now Saygus needs to step it up and sell us on them.

I'm patient. I don't mind dropping the cash and waiting, even if there are delays. I want that damned phone and sure I'll whine when there are delays but it will be like christmas when it shows up. And if it sucks? Well then I just return it. If you can't wait, don't preorder. Don't use kickstarter, don't invest in anything, don't take risks. These aren't negative things, it's smart not to take a risk, but it's not smart to take a risk when you can't handle what's involved.

That said I've been getting my roms and emulators ready.
 
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Boom515

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Just received this

March 2, 2015 10:36 am
After reading comments from mobile world congress, is shipping now not expected until June?

Thank you for contacting Saygus. We apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry, we got a bit backlogged. There has been much excitement around the V² and we’ve been working around the clock to make sure to release the very best smartphone possible. We can hardly wait to begin shipping.

To answer your question:

We are anticipating that the phone will begin shipping in April.

However, we are finalizing our production schedule right now, and we will have the exact shipping date for your pre-order phone purchase in the coming weeks. We will keep you informed.

I hope that helps.

If you have more questions, or would like further support, please visit our “Support” page. You may also reopen this support ticket, or create a new one. Either way, we’ll be glad to help.

Thank you,
 

frigidazzi

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I snagged the preorder for $550 because as soon as I saw the specs it was a dream phone. No phone on the market touches it on specs, and it's a US company? Hell finding a 64GB internal phone these days is like playing whack a mole.

That being said their PR on Twitter has been shaky at best. They need help in that regard.

Moving forward I'm not canceling my preorder because I want the phone. It's as simple as that. No other phone on the market in the US has an 801, 64GB, and even a single SD card slot. And yet we're also getting QI and supposedly a great camera for $600.

The company can work on its PR and marketing, what it can't do is work on the phone, that part is set in stone. We were sold on the phone, now Saygus needs to step it up and sell us on them.

I'm patient. I don't mind dropping the cash and waiting, even if there are delays. I want that damned phone and sure I'll whine when there are delays but it will be like christmas when it shows up. And if it sucks? Well then I just return it. If you can't wait, don't preorder. Don't use kickstarter, don't invest in anything, don't take risks. These aren't negative things, it's smart not to take a risk, but it's not smart to take a risk when you can't handle what's involved.

That said I've been getting my roms and emulators ready.
The problem with your logic is pre ordering and kick starter are not the same thing. No where did it say we were kick starting this, but that's what it feels like. I agree it's a great phone on paper. I'll save my praises for this like the camera until I see results (look at the m9. 20mp camera doesn't mean good pictures). But I'm hopeful.
 

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    Alright then.

    I was thinking of getting my refund and decided to take my own advice and contact Saygus through the # I posted above.

    I spoke with Mindy. She of course took my info and asked me some questions. She read back to me "xxxxxxxxx.XDA" Yes..

    Once again she reiterated "xxxxxxxxx.XDA". I said yes again...

    She asked me to hold, when a man came on and said Hello this is Chad Sayers:eek:

    Chad was extremely pleased to hear from me and even better that I was a part of XDA.

    After some formalities, which included his thanks to all that have supported Saygus from XDA, he went on to explain some of the issues they had, and what they are working on.

    One of the company's looking to supply parts was Sharp. Over time, there camera failed to work with the system. Sharp later resolved this issue (or so they thought.) Sharp also made the promise to Saygus to build these for the March release date. Sharp had issues with assembly and layout which caused the first delay. Saygus ended up using a second source (for camera) which had assured Saygus this change would offer a May delivery.

    During the last few days of assembly (with devices ready to pack) they ran into further issues in Q&A (once again) with the back camera and connection interference. This lead to finding a better suited facility to finish the task of assembly.

    All the components are aligned (this was a brushed over statement)

    Chad says the phones are in the process :)silly:). He had to take a call but not before I stopped him and gave him my number. I asked him to call me from one of the V2s. He agreed to do this later today or tomorrow. This call will be put on YT of which (hopefully) I will confirm.

    The funny thing regarding the "call me" part was, him saying "yeah having a video showing that it can make calls is a good idea":laugh:

    I will now wait to see if he replies



    BTW I never did get to ask for my refund;)

    UPDATE Chad did not return call. Gave it an additional 3 days and then canceled order. At this point I feel there is to much smoke and mirrors. I can appreciate delays and the complications they face. I have issue with "the greatest technology found in any smart phone" still being a fact.

    When I did call to cancel, Mindy once again took my call. At the end of our conversation, she offered a possible delivery date of mid July to mid August.

    Good luck to all of whom hold out.
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    This complete and utter lack of communication on the shipping dates is comical, reminds me of "The Cone of Silence" on Maxwell Smart where it always turns out for the worst.

    I understand they have egg on thier face from both the previous v1 and from the 22nd May debacle and they do not want the public relations nightmare of stating then missing another shipping date BUT to do as the old musroom joke says, to keep us in the dark and feed us s4!7, is too much now. Especially the BS they keep shovelling us.

    They must have known weeks before 22nd May they were going to miss the shipping dates (or did they magically have the necessary certifications on an unfinished phone?), and they continue their lies until today.

    Now they have started a new campaign and we seem to have lost importance as the new campaign brings in a wave of new and enthusiastic customers (indiefunders) with all sorts of stupid requests - can we have a phablet, can you put all hte buttons on the other side, can you make another fundamental change that'll take months to re-engineer - and Saygus respond to all these "fools" hoping to score some more "fools" gold. And yet they constantly ignore us, the original customers who really do deserve a lot better from them.

    To judge their integrity let us judge factually, all copy and paste from their official Twitter account:

    • until 15 Jun or so run the OFFICIAL Twitter run by a complete twit. (everyone with any marketing knowledge knows you don't talk about yourself, your product or how great you think your company is and NEVER use generalisations like we are the best - always tell the consumer what your product does for them. See Apple for great examples).
    • 18 May - Yeeee haw! It's the week of shipping! (without certifications? So no shipping was ever going to happen)
    • 23 May - Quality assurance issues with manufacturing partner caused us to secure a new manufacturing partnership AND Original production schedule was expected to stay the same. The transition has caused some delays. (So change of manufacturing partner occured prior to this date)
    • 29 May - We've been working hard with our partners to finish the V-Squared. (the use of "finish" in this manner implies the phone just needed the finishing touches)
    • 29 May - Were working hard on getting a specific shipping date (still waiting for this)
    • 3 Jun - Working on some QA testing with our new partners. Filming full demos for you the beginning of next week! (Suggesting the phone will be finished shortly, just in the stages of final testing and will be ready to film)
    • 15 Jun - Our LOYAL Pre-Register customers get the phones currently being finished! (ok, then, so now they are being finished)
    • 15 Jun - (released youtube video with Lewis Hilsenteger showing an apparently computer generated screen overlay on an unworking demo phone)
    • 15 Jun - reply to another tweet - Our LOYAL Pre-Register customers get the phones currently being finished! (the phones are being finished AGAIN?)
    • 17 Jun - Newest V Squared with box just in for E3 with redesign to include Type C USB AND Dual SIM wrapped in Lollipop 5.1! (suggesting to us that they now have boxed phones - shipping must be close again right?)
    • 17 Jun - (a few minor celebrities to try to dazzle us, waving a big mac at a starving crowd - look at our 128Gb phone - woooooo! - video lies about them doing the first 4K video (Z3 had this last year - Saygus have since changed the text to first look 4k video ) and lies about the biggest resolution selfie ever taken (HTC Desire Eye had 13M front camera released dec 2014 with dual front flash - that is asking for a law suit right there if you ask me)
    • 18 Jun - The hardware in current version you see in videos is final. The only changes are slight tuning for performance. (why did you change from the supposedly working 4.4.4 to 5.0 then 5.1, now talk of 5.1.1 if it induces delays?)
    • 19 Jun - Official Facebook page announced - links to empty FB "Business Manager" page, again no quality check even on the links they post.

    Now a few things not on the official twitter feed.

    First the Indigogo campaign disingeniously starting at $8xx,xxx dollars and they now claim $1 million reached !!!! Thankyou, please give us more, the more you give us the faster you get your phones!!!

    Now the conjecture:

    I believe the Indiegogog "success" is an attempt to get bloggers and android websites to report their "success" in taking $1million in two or three days to make the phone look popular, it is in my opinion a blatent attempt to use our unfulfilled pre-orders to gain free publicity. There is only one sort of publicity our unfulfilled orders should be making.

    And the Twitter feed is now littered with over enthusiastic Astroturf (wikipedia: On the Internet, astroturfers use software to mask their identity. Sometimes one individual operates over many personas to give the impression of widespread support for their client's agenda.[1][2] Some studies suggest astroturfing can alter public viewpoints and create enough doubt to inhibit action.) from their "world leading" marketing company?

    I was defintely under the impression that the phones were almsot finished and just needed some final touches as phones were failing QA testing, I was given the impression that the almost finished phones were to be shifted to a new manufacturer for final assembly due to light leaking into the camera module.

    I was definitely given the impression that there would be a short delay as parts where shipped to the new facilty and completed.

    We are continually given the impression there are working models available when it now seems there are 2 or 3 working engineering samples with inconsistent parts (different backs).

    Now we are told we'll have the phone before Indiegogo customers/backers which is in "fall" which is up to 22nd Dec 2015.

    So the new shipping date is before 22 Dec (they hope). And we've all seen their timeline they released which does not feature our phones coming to us any time before this date.

    There are constant promises of news coming soon, exciting news coming soon, wait for it, a countdown coming soon, totla bull**** as nothing is coming ever from these guys.

    Come on Saygus, do better. Put a timeline on it. I doubt the phones are even made yet, we've been promised several times they were near completion.

    Finally FM Reciever! Are You EXCITED!!!???? WTF have you guys been smoking? It's a "feature" on a extreme bottom end featureless dumbphone.

    I have been "lucky" enough to get 3 months holiday, the phone was supposed to arrive at the beginning of my free time, it is now looking like I won't even receive it by the end of my holiday.

    To keep stringing us along like this is disrespectful. Give us a shipping date so we can decide if we wait or grab something else that exists.

    My suggestion is we all hit twitter asking for a current shipping date timeline and pound them into submission on this after all they are now profiting from the delays and we are being treated as 2nd class since they already have our money - chasing new money seems to be far more important than trying to satisfy those of us willing to gamble upon their word previously.
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    Thank you for the retort.In fact I expressed '+1' and Smileys in confirmation with the postings of @porkandbeans and @Boom515.If they have any objection in it I will wholeheartedly withdraw them.I think internet has introduced these shortcuts in order to make communication easier.And in xda even many eminent and well known developers are using them.However if you are feeling any kind of irritation in having used them by me I beg your pardon.And I shall make it a point not to use them in my comments relating to your posts.

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    He's not talking about you thanking them, he's talking about you making a separate quote and reply for each and every post you agree with ("+1" or smilies). Doing it for every single post that you agree with is, well, very spammy. Instead, use the "Thanks" button located on each post. It expresses your approval and confirmation of that person's post without clogging up the forum with quoted replies and "+1"s.
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    Samsung is gonna have a bowel movement in their pants!

    Samsung, instead of capitalizing on their strengths, they decided to imitate an unnamed Apple mobile device. Samsung ditched the removable battery and placed, regardless of what reviewers out there are saying, a small battery, as indicated by most of the battery tests not being done at 100% screen brightness.
    The Saygus V2, on the other hand, has technology that plays to the strengths of not having an unnamed Apple mobile device. A removable battery, regardless if you swap batteries or not: 1. You can most often get extended batteries, offering you crazy additional battery life if you choose, especially if the phone is popular. 2. If the battery ever degrades over time, and you're just not getting the same amount of juice life, you can just buy another battery.
    Also, regardless of what some out there are saying, a micro sd card slot is only a strength to the consumer. It offers additional storage, if you want to use it. If you don't need the extra storage today, then you don't have to use it. However, if you need the additional storage later in the future, then you have it. An example of this is 4k video. Lets say you're at a Zoo or Aquarium and want to take a lot of pictures or video. A micro sd card, gives you more room to place your recordings. Which brings me to the next thing: internal storage
    Most consumers buy apps and games for their phones. There are many games out there that have 1, 2 or even 3gb downloads, because the games are just so awesome. I have all the GTA games, Odd World, XCom, Bard's Tales, and most recently added Tomb Raider to name just a few. If you have 32gb of internal storage only, then you won't have room for all the 4k videos and pictures you want to take. This leads consumers to buy a 64gb phone. Even with a 64gb phone, without expandable storage, with having apps on your phone, taking up space, you may have room for pictures and videos, but not as much as if you had some additional storage.
    My argument is that having more internal storage, allows for consumers to buy more apps for their phones, which helps developers, but we also need to have micro sd card slots, which allows consumers to store more pictures and videos as well. Streaming and cloud services are good, but consumers should not be forced to rely upon them. Which brings me to the conclusion:
    The Saygus V2 has 64gb of internal storage, for all of my apps and with plenty of room for my future game purchases, of which more money will go to developers. The Saygus V2 has 2 micro sd card slots, so I can record plenty of videos and take many pictures, as I already own two 128gb micro sd cards. The price of the Saygus V2 is only $600 . The Samsung S6 starts at a higher price point, and keeps going up in price for increases in internal memory only. There is no WI-HD, there are no micro sd card slots, there are no front facing stereo speakers, there is no front facing 13mp camera with OIS, and there is no water resistance on the S6. The Saygus V2 has those things, and still has wireless charging built in. That is why I preordered the Saygus V2 and am patiently waiting for it. The Saygus V2 has exactly what I need. When the Saygus V2 becomes an international hit, other phone manufacturers like Samsung, are going to be scratching their heads, trying to figure out where they went wrong.
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    Hey Guys! :)

    I've recently had another call with Chad and Chris. As Alicia already wrote on Facebook, they are all very busy getting everything well organized for the 22nd of May. Chad will be flying to China tomorrow, in order to meet with their local team, near the factory, and to supervise the manufacturing process.
    Regarding the question, if May 22nd will be still the ship date, I've been told that they are on schedule and will start shipping on May 22nd. Unfortunately I don't have any concrete number of units, which will ship in the first batch, but the remaining devices will follow very soon.

    Concerning the VAT issue for European customers I can spread some hope, as there are ongoing talks with probably the biggest distributor for IT stuff in Europe. Besides that there are also some negotiations conducted with a large European retailer, which has its headquarter in Germany.

    Coming back again to the 'business' talks from earlier this day...
    It's not that easy to compare Saygus with some of the other big players in the smartphone market. Saygus is still relatively small against the well-established companies and has considerably less financial means to achieve its goals. You should try to keep this in mind, when talking about Saygus. ;)
    Moreover they want to give always the best and get better, where they have to improve. So they are really happy about every feedback, ideas or suggestions, in order to deliver you the best smartphone experience you've ever had. They really appreciate all your support. A great smartphone needs a great community to support it!
    In case you're having trouble reaching them, just drop me a message and I'll take care of your concern. :)


    As we approach four weeks to ship date without any announcement from carriers about compatibility, without any FCC info, without any info on beta testing, the risk of this being vaporware increases and with that increase, risk of losing the whole $550 outweighs the reward of saving $50-150.

    I can understand your motivations and hope you took the right decision. Feel free to come back again, whenever you want to!
    Nevertheless I want to point out that there has been an information about beta testing here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gen...-one-maybe-t2996443/post60160367#post60160367
    Since we don't have any details about the FCC inspection yet, I'll try to get some more news on this in the next week.


    Does the phone support FM radio?
    Also about navigation does it support just GPS or GPS + Glonass?

    Although this question has been answered almost ten times now: FM will be definitely supported. Hurray! :D
    Not only GPS, but also GLONASS will be supported by the V² and both are already well tested and working.


    The only thing certification is going to do is say whether or not there going to sell it them self has nothing to do if it works on there network if have sim.

    As far as I know that's just the case with GSM/UMTS networks, but for CDMA the device has to be approved by the carrier in order to work with the specific network, as the carriers are having a device whitelist. See a detailed article about the difference between GSM and CDMA networks here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp


    Just to repeat it: I'm always quietly following here and trying to keep the thread clean and my contributions helpful.
    Apropos: Thanks for your endurance so far! In the end, this post got a little bit bigger than expected. :D

    Best wishes from Germany,
    Andreas