Question Do NOT Convert from CN ROM to Global ROM (CN ROM Officially Supports Google Play Services)

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redrooster62

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Does this work with all Google services? Such as Google pay, assistant and so on? Debating buying the phone on aliexpress as there's a sale.
I too want to buy from them but since I don't know how to do anything I need a phone that will update easy. Some seller there claim that it will get OTA after being flashed with a Global Rom. I even message them and they confirm yes.
I don't know if it is real though? I would have no problem sticking with the CN Rom as I know you can get Google to work on it but my problem is I read that there is some CN Apps that you cannot uninstall unless you are very experienced at Root the device I think but to much for me as I don't know how and those Apps would make me crazy if I have to look at them all the time.
 

redrooster62

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I've been using X30 Pro (stock ROM) for a month.

Work fine:
  • Play Store (build-in) - it can't update itself, but can be updated from moto App Center
  • Contact (need to install Google Contact Sync from moto App Center or from other apk source, otherwise account sync will not work)
  • Google One, Gmail, Keep, Docs etc
  • Google Pay - no issue with adding credit cards, and NFC payment
Things that do not work or partially work:
  • Google Assistant - voice matching option greyed out, so hey google does not work. Voice input works however.
  • Android Auto - not working
I thought that the CN Rom,( which is what an X30 Pro is suppose to come with) gets OTA updates it's only if you flash it with a Global Rom that you aren't suppose to get OTA?
 

redrooster62

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Can you elaborate? I read somewhere that although you can uninstall most that there are some that needs special procedure. If this is true could you provide details how?
 

AHMN48

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Please help me, I used clone app inside the setting for WhatsApp but can't restore backup from my Google account, it seems google play service doesn't cloned as well, and there is not a way to clone google play service
 

ijuanp03

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This unfortunatelly is only partially true, not working on CN version even with google services activated:
- Backup of Apps over google
- Samsung Health
- Samsung Wear
- Google Wear
(all of them will not work to connect samsung galaxy watch 5)

Any ideas?

Backup of Apps over Google -- I have never tried this with my other Android phone. As an alternative, you can use "Moto Mover" app which is pre-installed with the phone.

Samsung Health - working for me
Samsung Wear - also working. Did you install the additional Samsung plugins? I am using Samsung Watch Active with no issue. I can even use Samsung Pay.
 

Januwar

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Backup of Apps over Google -- I have never tried this with my other Android phone. As an alternative, you can use "Moto Mover" app which is pre-installed with the phone.

Samsung Health - working for me
Samsung Wear - also working. Did you install the additional Samsung plugins? I am using Samsung Watch Active with no issue. I can even use Samsung Pay.
Thank you for your reply. Which version of Samsung Health and Wear are you using? What plugins you mean?
If I try to login to Samsung health I got an error message that the browser isn't supported even if I installed Samsung Browser...

Any help very much apreciated
 

Januwar

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Thank you for your reply. Which version of Samsung Health and Wear are you using? What plugins you mean?
If I try to login to Samsung health I got an error message that the browser isn't supported even if I installed Samsung Browser...

Any help very much apreciated
Moto Mover? Haven't got that app on my Razr...
 

ijuanp03

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Moto Mover? Haven't got that app on my Razr...
Moto Mover is pre-installed on my device.

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Januwar

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Keep in mind, I'm using Motorola CN ROM. Can you suggest an app to extract the apk?
For me APK Extractor always does a good job.
Would be great if you could give it a try and maybe as well Samsung health and wear, would appreciate a lot!!
I am on CN Rom as well bought the razr online in China .-)

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Geekazoid78

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Hello, Is any one geting OTA security updates on RETEU rom? If so how did you manage? Im still on October ...:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::(:(:unsure::( Id thought I be slick and use the VPN to see what could be seen from a fake EU location but no joy. I see a link was posted for lolinet but i dont see any thing as far as updates... only roms. have the razr ( 512gb ) overall pretty chuffed about the phone..Im waiting for the rest of the cafeteria to change their tone (aka Youtube reveiewers) seems they regurtitate the vomit of each other. this is a splendid device ( so far) the battery is amazing, Imnot sure what the issue is with the camera /video? I dont have it. If I ccan get integrated visual VM and "any" way to get security updates. im a happy camper...
 

Geekazoid78

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Hello, Is any one geting OTA security updates on RETEU rom? If so how did you manage? Im still on October ...:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::(:(:unsure::( Id thought I be slick and use the VPN to see what could be seen from a fake EU location but no joy. I see a link was posted for lolinet but i dont see any thing as far as updates... only roms. have the razr ( 512gb ) overall pretty chuffed about the phone..Im waiting for the rest of the cafeteria to change their tone (aka Youtube reveiewers) seems they regurtitate the vomit of each other. this is a splendid device ( so far) the battery is amazing, Imnot sure what the issue is with the camera /video? I dont have it. If I ccan get integrated visual VM and "any" way to get security updates. im a happy camper...
Im also able to confirm the the bootlader can be relocked... thats actually very easy, though makes sure you back up as you will loose all of your Data contacts ect...
 

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    My device is converted and bl is locked. That's how it came to me, i have no idea :) It's not even unlocked right now :))

    Updates are coming and installing, no problem.

    BL locked & no warning message.


    Even if this was not the case, i would like to convert the device again, because there is no language in CN rom, as far as i know, only CN and EN languages.
    My country Turkey & my language Turkish

    Your question is a little pointless. Not everyone has to know Chinese or English. For this reason, it may need this procedure, for example I👍🏻
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    Read below :)
    Pls don't spread false information that bl can be RE-LOCKED because Motorola modders know it will brick your phone :)


    Dude, i don't give information to "lock it". I wrote "It was sold to me like this, i received it like this" look there, read it well, don't be idle(y)
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    For those who are planning to buy from Motorola China (CN ROM), do NOT convert to Global ROM! Do NOT buy from an online retailer where the phone has been converted to global ROM.

    This is a warning to everyone if you don't want any headache in software support.

    Reasons why you should NOT convert to Global ROM:

    1. You can NEVER re-lock your bootloader - your phone will get BRICKED if you try to re-lock your bootloader.
    2. You can NEVER update your software over-the-air. Do you want to own a phone with an update-less software? Yes, this is NOT possible as there will be an error message everytime you try to update your phone's software.
    3. There will be a WARNING MESSAGE ("Your bootloader is unlocked.. etc") every time you restart your phone. Do you want this nasty message to ruin your phone's software?
    4. Google Pay will detect your phone as tampered won't meet security requirements.
    5. Streaming platforms and banking apps may not work once your phone is rooted.

    Why do you NEED to update to Global ROM when in fact, CN ROM OFFICIALLY SUPPORTS Google Play Services.
    1. Just go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
    2. Toggle to ON and you can now install Play Store and use it to download your favorite Google Apps.

    NO issues whatsoever. As simple as that.
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    Don't convert. Motorola's "ThinkShield" policy is stricter than any other OEMs. Once you unlock the bootloader, you can never re-lock.

    You will also get a nasty "bootloader unlocked" message whenever you restart your device.

    And lastly, you can never update your software over-the-air because of unlocked bootloader.

    Wrong. Bootloader can be relocked without consequences (when done right) and OTAs work with unlocked bootloader.
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    Well thank you for the insight...for sure this Istanbul's guy is someone from Motorola or at least has some Motorola tools :D

    There are service boxes we call "Box", this friend is Turkish. It's not from Motorola, it's a software developer. I don't know exactly, but he's famous in his business. As i said, there are many such people here. There are some Syrians, even Iranians. They can solve insurmountable problems with the service equipment (different manufacturers) we call this "box", these works are quite famous in our country.

    For example very famous this Box: https://sigmakey.com/

    That these devices can "force flash" the event. In other words, they can flash firmware without the need for any unlock code or processing.

    For example very famous again(update list / writing edge 30 ultra:):