Question Do NOT Convert from CN ROM to Global ROM (CN ROM Officially Supports Google Play Services)

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redrooster62

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I've been using X30 Pro (stock ROM) for a month.

Work fine:
  • Play Store (build-in) - it can't update itself, but can be updated from moto App Center
  • Contact (need to install Google Contact Sync from moto App Center or from other apk source, otherwise account sync will not work)
  • Google One, Gmail, Keep, Docs etc
  • Google Pay - no issue with adding credit cards, and NFC payment
Things that do not work or partially work:
  • Google Assistant - voice matching option greyed out, so hey google does not work. Voice input works however.
  • Android Auto - not working
Can you explain what this means:
  • Google Assistant - voice matching option greyed out, so hey google does not work. Voice input works however.
Will I not be able to voice dictate to ask Google a Question?
 

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Yeah RetCN does provide option to manually enable Play Services, not all services available though. While contacts syncing has been resolved with GoogleContactSync installed, Voice Match, Location History, Nearby Share, ASI & more stuff remains not functioning, not to mention the absence of Data Transfer Tool (GoogleRestore in RetEU ROM) that may accomplish a fully transfer from retired old phone.

Experiences of Google services on a China devices are so terrible. Even so, Motorola has distinguished X30 Pro from Edge 30 Ultra through various methods, CTS profile for instance.
 

redrooster62

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Yeah RetCN does provide option to manually enable Play Services, not all services available though. While contacts syncing has been resolved with GoogleContactSync installed, Voice Match, Location History, Nearby Share, ASI & more stuff remains not functioning, not to mention the absence of Data Transfer Tool (GoogleRestore in RetEU ROM) that may accomplish a fully transfer from retired old phone.

Experiences of Google services on a China devices are so terrible. Even so, Motorola has distinguished X30 Pro from Edge 30 Ultra through various methods, CTS profile for instance.
More nails in the coffin for me to personally avoid a CN version phone.
 

ijuanp03

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Can you explain what this means:
  • Google Assistant - voice matching option greyed out, so hey google does not work. Voice input works however.
Will I not be able to voice dictate to ask Google a Question?

You cannot use "Hey Google" but definitely can use Google Assistant by opening Google search.
 

ijuanp03

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Yeah RetCN does provide option to manually enable Play Services, not all services available though. While contacts syncing has been resolved with GoogleContactSync installed, Voice Match, Location History, Nearby Share, ASI & more stuff remains not functioning, not to mention the absence of Data Transfer Tool (GoogleRestore in RetEU ROM) that may accomplish a fully transfer from retired old phone.

Experiences of Google services on a China devices are so terrible. Even so, Motorola has distinguished X30 Pro from Edge 30 Ultra through various methods, CTS profile for instance.

In my experience, I 100% prefer CN ROM since it has Motorola's full suite of software features you couldn't find on the Global ROM.

The biggest advantage for me is the Motorola Device Shield app where you can configure what is running in the background as well as natively lock apps. Not to mention it has native app cloning which commonly used in Asian countries as people almost always have dual SIM.

And the biggest advantage is the timely software updates which is lacking in Global ROM.
 

iron maiden

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In my experience, I 100% prefer CN ROM since it has Motorola's full suite of software features you couldn't find on the Global ROM.

The biggest advantage for me is the Motorola Device Shield app where you can configure what is running in the background as well as natively lock apps. Not to mention it has native app cloning which commonly used in Asian countries as people almost always have dual SIM.

And the biggest advantage is the timely software updates which is lacking in Global ROM.
I don't know why the global rom doesn't have the same options, I want to try the CN in my reteu.
 

ijuanp03

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I don't know why the global rom doesn't have the same options, I want to try the CN in my reteu.
Don't convert. Motorola's "ThinkShield" policy is stricter than any other OEMs. Once you unlock the bootloader, you can never re-lock.

You will also get a nasty "bootloader unlocked" message whenever you restart your device.

And lastly, you can never update your software over-the-air because of unlocked bootloader.
 

Killuminati91

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Don't convert. Motorola's "ThinkShield" policy is stricter than any other OEMs. Once you unlock the bootloader, you can never re-lock.

You will also get a nasty "bootloader unlocked" message whenever you restart your device.

And lastly, you can never update your software over-the-air because of unlocked bootloader.

Wrong. Bootloader can be relocked without consequences (when done right) and OTAs work with unlocked bootloader.
 
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iron maiden

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Don't convert. Motorola's "ThinkShield" policy is stricter than any other OEMs. Once you unlock the bootloader, you can never re-lock.

You will also get a nasty "bootloader unlocked" message whenever you restart your device.

And lastly, you can never update your software over-the-air because of unlocked bootloader.
Hi, I know, but I like being able to install magiks roms by fastboot, etc. I'm already testing the Chinese stock version, much better than the retail one.


regards
 
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LionLorena

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If the hardware is exactly the same shouldn't it be possible to just flash the other firmware?

I remember changing the firmware on my Locked Moto X4 using other variants of the firmware no problem whatsoever.
I even once tried the Amazon ad ridden firmware just for the laughs.
 

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If the hardware is exactly the same shouldn't it be possible to just flash the other firmware?

I remember changing the firmware on my Locked Moto X4 using other variants of the firmware no problem whatsoever.
I even once tried the Amazon ad ridden firmware just for the laughs.

Older devices don't have this policy. I enjoyed tinkering with my old Moto Razr "i" last time.
 

Killuminati91

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Since you are 100% confident on this, which latest Motorola device are you using right now that has unlocked bootloader with no nasty splash screen and OTAs working?
I did not object to the splash screen. As you can see in my post history I had the x30 Pro / Edge 30 Ultra, which has working OTAs with open bootloader (unless rooted) and can be relocked according to my guide.
 

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    My device is converted and bl is locked. That's how it came to me, i have no idea :) It's not even unlocked right now :))

    Updates are coming and installing, no problem.

    BL locked & no warning message.


    Even if this was not the case, i would like to convert the device again, because there is no language in CN rom, as far as i know, only CN and EN languages.
    My country Turkey & my language Turkish

    Your question is a little pointless. Not everyone has to know Chinese or English. For this reason, it may need this procedure, for example I👍🏻
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    Read below :)
    Pls don't spread false information that bl can be RE-LOCKED because Motorola modders know it will brick your phone :)


    Dude, i don't give information to "lock it". I wrote "It was sold to me like this, i received it like this" look there, read it well, don't be idle(y)
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    For those who are planning to buy from Motorola China (CN ROM), do NOT convert to Global ROM! Do NOT buy from an online retailer where the phone has been converted to global ROM.

    This is a warning to everyone if you don't want any headache in software support.

    Reasons why you should NOT convert to Global ROM:

    1. You can NEVER re-lock your bootloader - your phone will get BRICKED if you try to re-lock your bootloader.
    2. You can NEVER update your software over-the-air. Do you want to own a phone with an update-less software? Yes, this is NOT possible as there will be an error message everytime you try to update your phone's software.
    3. There will be a WARNING MESSAGE ("Your bootloader is unlocked.. etc") every time you restart your phone. Do you want this nasty message to ruin your phone's software?
    4. Google Pay will detect your phone as tampered won't meet security requirements.
    5. Streaming platforms and banking apps may not work once your phone is rooted.

    Why do you NEED to update to Global ROM when in fact, CN ROM OFFICIALLY SUPPORTS Google Play Services.
    1. Just go to Settings > System > Google Play Services
    2. Toggle to ON and you can now install Play Store and use it to download your favorite Google Apps.

    NO issues whatsoever. As simple as that.
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    Don't convert. Motorola's "ThinkShield" policy is stricter than any other OEMs. Once you unlock the bootloader, you can never re-lock.

    You will also get a nasty "bootloader unlocked" message whenever you restart your device.

    And lastly, you can never update your software over-the-air because of unlocked bootloader.

    Wrong. Bootloader can be relocked without consequences (when done right) and OTAs work with unlocked bootloader.
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    Well thank you for the insight...for sure this Istanbul's guy is someone from Motorola or at least has some Motorola tools :D

    There are service boxes we call "Box", this friend is Turkish. It's not from Motorola, it's a software developer. I don't know exactly, but he's famous in his business. As i said, there are many such people here. There are some Syrians, even Iranians. They can solve insurmountable problems with the service equipment (different manufacturers) we call this "box", these works are quite famous in our country.

    For example very famous this Box: https://sigmakey.com/

    That these devices can "force flash" the event. In other words, they can flash firmware without the need for any unlock code or processing.

    For example very famous again(update list / writing edge 30 ultra:):