I know most of us here on xda hate overlays like Sense and Touch-Wiz. You have to understand the business standpoint though. Manufacturers need something to set them apart and make them recognizable to the consumer. When someone sees Sense, they think HTC, Touch-Wiz, Samsung. Us tech-savy users know the other, cleaner, faster side to android. Normal consumers just see nice graphics which seems to make the sale.
Do these comanies really think we like their interfaces (sense, touchwiz and so on)?
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Because some 60 year old CEO THINK they know what they are doing, but fail to realize that the DEV section in XDA forums is the biggest prize they can win. Instead of realizing they should SUPPORT this community, these dinosaurs of CEO's (that know what a catheter is but if you'll tell them the word ROM they think you are talking about an alcoholic drink) don't have a clue about what goes.
HOW MANY OF US HERE will NOT chose a device if it doesn't have a good DEV section here at XDA? I know the first thing I check before I buy a phone is the DEV section and if the phone is loved by the community.
I say fire them all and let us throw out the window every CEO that is over 30 years old!!!
Imagine the dudes from CM running Samsung
Now that will be a PHONE WORTH HAVING!!!!
One reason I prefer Samsung to HTC. HTC has gotten disingenuous over the last year. They want us to think they care and have stated they care enough to do things to suit us, but it is just subterfuge. I will only consider a Samsung now...or actually mostly anything other than HTC. But not LG.Because some 60 year old CEO THINK they know what they are doing, but fail to realize that the DEV section in XDA forums is the biggest prize they can win. Instead of realizing they should SUPPORT this community, these dinosaurs of CEO's (that know what a catheter is but if you'll tell them the word ROM they think you are talking about an alcoholic drink) don't have a clue about what goes.
HOW MANY OF US HERE will NOT chose a device if it doesn't have a good DEV section here at XDA? I know the first thing I check before I buy a phone is the DEV section and if the phone is loved by the community.
I say fire them all and let us throw out the window every CEO that is over 30 years old!!!
Imagine the dudes from CM running Samsung
Now that will be a PHONE WORTH HAVING!!!!
Because some 60 year old CEO THINK they know what they are doing, but fail to realize that the DEV section in XDA forums is the biggest prize they can win. Instead of realizing they should SUPPORT this community, these dinosaurs of CEO's (that know what a catheter is but if you'll tell them the word ROM they think you are talking about an alcoholic drink) don't have a clue about what goes.
HOW MANY OF US HERE will NOT chose a device if it doesn't have a good DEV section here at XDA? I know the first thing I check before I buy a phone is the DEV section and if the phone is loved by the community.
I say fire them all and let us throw out the window every CEO that is over 30 years old!!!
Imagine the dudes from CM running Samsung
Now that will be a PHONE WORTH HAVING!!!!
Not every 30 year old is some genius or really smart, and frankly if they are, they'd best be focusing in engineering and innovation rather than petty things of only monetary value. The next best thing they can get is someone with experience, and someone that is 30 and has that kind of experience is rare.
And really, aren't us dev and hacking community only a small minority? Can't they make do without us? What are we, like a 1/75 of their growing income? They are in this for the money, not for the overall better, like every company.
But it would be nice if they simply put out phones that had unlocked bootloaders.
Im running febs creamed glacier rom for Mytouch 4g, this ics is awesome i love it just the way it is . im sure it wont be the same when it officially releases which really does suck.
Keep in mind that they all need to stand out in some way or another, hence the unique GUIs. This has nothing to do with US liking or disliking them. Lets just give them some credit for not making GUIs utter crap.
Their UI is built from scratch. It is designed and developed by the manufacturers. What you are saying here is you want a whole new OS made by the manufacturers. That would never work, and would take years to develop and implement. Or they could just build the overlay into the OS. That could be good...but if you think updates take a long time to get now, just imagine how long they would take then.
I understand why the manufactorers are putting the UI's on Android, and for the most part I can't fault it, Touchwiz on the S2 was nice, Sense on my old Wildfire was actually quite good too. For the vast majority of users it does split it apart, when I got my S2 using Android was a slightly different experience due to the differences between touchwiz and Sense, and besides the size of the screen (And the hardware), for the average user, without the custom UI's nothing would have set them apart.
But after using ICS vanilla, and then seeing that samsung put touchwiz over the top of it, the vanilla ICS is a beautiful thing, and whilst I do like touchwiz, if I had a choice, I'd prefer not to have it, ICS is just that nice looking.
But after using ICS vanilla, and then seeing that samsung put touchwiz over the top of it, the vanilla ICS is a beautiful thing, and whilst I do like touchwiz, if I had a choice, I'd prefer not to have it, ICS is just that nice looking.
y is it soo bad?
Don't you people get it by now because it easy cheap and old, being that its old it mostly stable and must likely more using friendly. like the iPhone/iPod it uses the same piece of dirt over and add new dirt to make it grow again
I personally hate Sense but i understand why the companies do it, its a bramding of the phone to identify it with their company.
Having said that i think there should be an option within the recovery to load the phone with or without the HTC Sense bloatware.
Having said that i think there should be an option within the recovery to load the phone with or without the HTC Sense bloatware.
Well, the average Joe don't give a damn about what manufacturer skins and Android versions on their phones.... As long as they work with apps properly, they don't complain about skins or updates. I think what the manufacturers do is to differentiate their devices each other. However, there's something which can solve all this.... Flash a custom ROM. More experienced users can just root the phone and flash an AOSP ROM. Problem Solved.
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That is sad. I've had opportunity to play with vanilla ICS on my HD2 and love it so much I was hoping HTC wouldn't mess it up with Sense or the same old thing. I have an Inspire waiting for the update and want vanilla ICS...or something resembling it. I guess rooting will have to be an option to get what it should have.
