Do you think ICS will make things any better for us/the Sensation?

[steini81]

To those who say they have no battery issues:
Does your battery not stick at 100% longer than it should? It stays at 100% even after 30min of intense use and then sharply drops instead of declining i a linear way. Do you not have different battery level values after restarting the phone? Afaik it is a common problem with the Sensation caused by bad drivers. There is even a thread dedicated to this.

And it can not all be blamed on the higher pixel count. Electopia is a 3d game that measures your fps. There is an option to run it at WVGA resolution (800x480), meaning it is rendered in exactly the same resolution as the SGII. The game runs at aprox. 20 fps slower than on the sgII. Now this is not some synthetic benchmark, this is real world performance where the game simply runs smother on the sammy.
I just checked my roommate's SGII performance within whatsapp. He can scroll through the entire chat history in real time, back and forward with no delay. Mine has VISIBLE lag and doesn't respond as well, it stutters alot when scrolling up the list. Don't tell me its because it has to render more pixels, its a messaging program ffs! This happens with EVERY Rom (With or without Sense).

I am surprised no one shares my view on those issues because it's basically a compilation of often here mentioned issues plaguing the Sensation. And I know HTC made some damn fine phones, but the Sensation just doesn't live up to their past standards.

No I don't feel the need to always have the fastest and best thing around. I was evaluating pros and cons between the Sensation and SG2 for 6 whole weeks before ultimately going for the Sensation. I knew the Samsung had better benchmark results and more power but I was like "I don't need a fucking racing car, a nice sports car will do it just as well". But I simply cannot put up with sluggish menus/scrolling behaviour. Not in 2011 and in the age of dual core processors. See, if only the Sensation was really snappy with my daily tasks, I couldn't care less for benchmarks.
But folks will always say the same things like "it has more pixels to push" or "mine runs super smooth" when in fact it runs the same way as mine and they just don't mind a bit of choppiness.

I HATE the plastic toy phone feel of the Samsung devices, but damn those phones fly. Probably I'm alone with this, but choppy and sluggish menus and scrolling behaviour gives me eye cancer. And it's something I can't live withon such a premium device.

Please keep the "if you don't like it then sell it" comments to your self, they add nothing to the discussion and you are not telling me anything new.

Well I am considering the Galaxy Nexus now, despite not having the most fancy gpu unit available.

All i can tell you is that i don't have any of those problems on my XE (no battery problem, no laggs, no scrolling issues). My battery (Stock) is o.k for 2 days with normal use (make calls, watch youtube, check mails, sync weather and google acc, etc....) and it drops like on my DHD i had before (no 15% or 20% drops after a restart). I can't talk about Stock Rom performance because i flashed a custom Rom on the first day i got it but with custom Rom and Kernel this phone is absolutely perfect. Some people i know have the SGS2 and all of them say that my phone runs smoother than theyr Plastic Bomber.
PS: This is a smartphone and not a gameboy if you whant play 3D games you better look for a PSP. Playing games on smartphones is a nice feature but not a must have. I can't say my phone is crap because games have to low fps rate.

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[Vipeout]

I think ICS will make the Sensation a little bit smoother.

That said, I overall don't really like my Sensation. It was an under-spec'd, half-baked phone from release. I really wish my phone upgrade would have been now, because I would have been all over a real performer like the Galaxy Nexus. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my Sensation for another year and a half or so, and I doubt I'll be able to make it that long.

Having a phone that performs like a toy is worse than having one that feels like a toy. I didn't buy a damn phone just to touch it. I bought it to use it, and there are tons of phones out there that perform better.

Amen. First post not lynching me for stating the unconvenient truth. It's like people try to defend their investment at all costs and feel personally attacked when you critisize this phone.

Some people i know have the SGS2 and all of them say that my phone runs smoother than theyr Plastic Bomber.
PS: This is a smartphone and not a gameboy if you whant play 3D games you better look for a PSP. Playing games on smartphones is a nice feature but not a must have. I can't say my phone is crap because games have to low fps rate.

Maybe they smoothened out this issues with the XE but I doubt it, its just an OC'd Sensation with fancy colors.
I compared my Sensation with two stock galaxies and both run faster. You can tell me of people who claim their Fiat goes faster than a Porsche all you want, it still doesn't make it true. Im not arguing here, it's just fact and it's not rocket science.

Don't believe me? Please launch Whatsapp and go into a lenghty chat history and tell me how the scrolling is for you. Need proof? www.youtube.com/watch?v=iboMK8Oq_RU (not me)

And before claiming yours runs smooth as butter please show me proof. And before you say "It's just not optimized software-wise" - I don't care. HTC better optimze the software because other phones don't have this issue.
And this is only one example, what you see in whatsapp shows in several other areas of the phone. Go launcher is another example.

The Sensation has got a few advantages over the Galaxy2 but it certainly is not speed and saying anything else is self-deception. I knew exactly that I wasn't getting the fastest phone when I chose the Sensation but it didn't need the fastest. No single phone has it all and I'm more into ease of use than pure hardware power. But when I buy a dualcore phone I expect dual core performance. Besides, performance is merely one of my problems with this phone (see list). Also, I discovered that the power button issue only occurs when not using an HTC based ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20098696&postcount=50). Sure not evryone has it, but more than enough do so.

P.S. Maybe for you playing games on your phone is not a must have but you are not the center of the universe and other people have other needs and priorities. There is a reason 7 out of 10 most downloaded apps are games. And I never said the phone is crap because "it has slower fps". The FPS is just representative for the overall performance. It annoys me that my stolen 2009 single core iphone 3gs had better graphics performance than my Sensay (go look at Infinity blade).

This is turning into a "You bash my Sensation, I bash you" thread. I actually only wanted to know if others share my disappointment and how they think it will improve with ICS

 

[steini81]

Maybe they smoothened out this issues with the XE but I doubt it, its just an OC'd Sensation with fancy colors.
I compared my Sensation with two stock galaxies and both run faster. You can tell me of people who claim their Fiat goes faster than a Porsche all you want, it still doesn't make it true. Im not arguing here, it's just fact and it's not rocket science.

And before claiming yours runs smooth as butter please show me proof. And before you say "It's just not optimized software-wise" - I don't care. HTC better optimze the software because other phones don't have this issue.
And this is only one example, what you see in whatsapp shows in several other areas of the phone. Go launcher is another example.

P.S. Maybe for you playing games on your phone is not a must have but you are not the center of the universe and other people have other needs and priorities. There is a reason 7 out of 10 most downloaded apps are games. And I never said the phone is crap because "it has slower fps". The FPS is just representative for the overall performance. It annoys me that my stolen 2009 single core iphone 3gs had better graphics performance than my Sensay (go look at Infinity blade).

So you say i lie? For me it's not rocket science but it looks like it's for you if you can't handle a phone. I don'thave to proof you anything because i know how my phone is working and i don't care if yours is laggy or explodes in your hand.
And i know that i'm not the center of the universe but you think you are.
If you were so happy with you 3GS then go and get one i'm sure somebody will change your crappy Sensation for a wonderfull :banghead: Phone.
Last thing i say in this thread: IT'S ONLY AT THE THE USER



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[jpc0480]

Sensation happens to be a great phone for me ... much better than the galaxy s II

Feeling lucky ... didnt have any of those issues ...

I second that. I held both at the same time and the Sensation just felt better in my hands. The Galaxy II just felt cheap. Had an Omnia a long time ago and the phone broke several times do its cheap construction. Will never buy Samsung again. I've had several HTC's all the way back to the 6800 or the Titan as some of you may know. They really have been some the best phones I've ever had.

A phone now days is disposable anyway... How tough do you expect them to build it? They expect you to buy new every year despite the fact that you belong to a 2 year contract. Same goes for Apple, they release a new version every year.

So quit crying and complaining that by the time you get ICS there will be better phones. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER PHONES!!!! Whether you buy a phone now or in 6 months the next gen will blow yours away. If you want ICS NOW then flash a custom rom as soon as one stable becomes available.

Oh and quit crying, 4 months ago the Sensation was the best phone you ever touched, now there is something better coming out and everyone is grabbing their panties and whining like cry babies. Boo hoo! It's how tech works. I just bought a laptop and now guess what? A newer one is out with better specs... Poor me... Wish the tech world would just stop evolving so we could all be happy with today's speeds and capabilities (Sarcasm).

 

[leftheodo]

I second that. I held both at the same time and the Sensation just felt better in my hands. The Galaxy II just felt cheap. Had an Omnia a long time ago and the phone broke several times do its cheap construction. Will never buy Samsung again. I've had several HTC's all the way back to the 6800 or the Titan as some of you may know. They really have been some the best phones I've ever had.

A phone now days is disposable anyway... How tough do you expect them to build it? They expect you to buy new every year despite the fact that you belong to a 2 year contract. Same goes for Apple, they release a new version every year.

So quit crying and complaining that by the time you get ICS there will be better phones. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER PHONES!!!! Whether you buy a phone now or in 6 months the next gen will blow yours away. If you want ICS NOW then flash a custom rom as soon as one stable becomes available.

Oh and quit crying, 4 months ago the Sensation was the best phone you ever touched, now there is something better coming out and everyone is grabbing their panties and whining like cry babies. Boo hoo! It's how tech works. I just bought a laptop and now guess what? A newer one is out with better specs... Poor me... Wish the tech world would just stop evolving so we could all be happy with today's speeds and capabilities (Sarcasm).

AMEN! Thanks bro!

 

[Vipeout]

I second that. I held both at the same time and the Sensation just felt better in my hands. The Galaxy II just felt cheap. Had an Omnia a long time ago and the phone broke several times do its cheap construction. Will never buy Samsung again. I've had several HTC's all the way back to the 6800 or the Titan as some of you may know. They really have been some the best phones I've ever had.

A phone now days is disposable anyway... How tough do you expect them to build it? They expect you to buy new every year despite the fact that you belong to a 2 year contract. Same goes for Apple, they release a new version every year.

So quit crying and complaining that by the time you get ICS there will be better phones. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER PHONES!!!! Whether you buy a phone now or in 6 months the next gen will blow yours away. If you want ICS NOW then flash a custom rom as soon as one stable becomes available.

Oh and quit crying, 4 months ago the Sensation was the best phone you ever touched, now there is something better coming out and everyone is grabbing their panties and whining like cry babies. Boo hoo! It's how tech works. I just bought a laptop and now guess what? A newer one is out with better specs... Poor me... Wish the tech world would just stop evolving so we could all be happy with today's speeds and capabilities (Sarcasm).

I agree with what you say but what does it have to do with my initial post? I talk about issues the Sensation has since day one and whether ICS will make them go away.

Completely off topic...

 

[smubob]

I agree with you. I really hate the battery life.... I have to charge it after 8-12 hours and it drops badly After reboot.

I'm going to sell it but i dont Know which phone should i buy

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[undercover]

Nokia 5110 lasted me 5 days minimum regardless of how much Snake I played.

I agree with you. I really hate the battery life.... I have to charge it after 8-12 hours and it drops badly After reboot.

I'm going to sell it but i dont Know which phone should i buy

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[mixtapes08]

Go for nexus s or gnexus ull never regret it..

 

[Vipeout]

Guys is noone reading my posts properly? I am not complining about battery life per se. It's ok for me, plus I have 3 batteries. What sucks is that the phone can't display the correct battery readings, meaning it tells you it's 100% while in fact it's really 90something. Or you have 37% left and after rebooting its magically up to 49% os something like that.

All roms have this

 

[jpc0480]

I agree with what you say but what does it have to do with my initial post? I talk about issues the Sensation has since day one and whether ICS will make them go away.

Completely off topic...

Ok let me try and explain... Here is what you said:

Recently, I am starting to regret having bought the Sensation. Build quality my arse. This phone is full of bugs and disappointments, my biggest issues being:

You may have gotten a lemon. This is a really nice phone and I'm sure that not everyone who buys a Ferrari is happy. There is a margin of error. Send it back under warranty and you should be happy. If it comes up again, send it back. Keep sending it back until they make it right. Its a pain in the a** but it's not something that HTC is known for. It's also not common for a PS3 to go bad, had mine for 4 years and nothing has been wrong. A friend of mine has had to ship his back to Sony 4 times. He's still in love with a PS3 over the Xbox and I don't think he is contemplating a switch.

The thing is, I just don't believe in it anymore. HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones. Hell, since the launch of the first Sensation alone they have thrown 2 additional versions of it in the market, let alone the number of completely new phones released or soon to be released. I think fragmentation is becoming a major problem with HTC. Look at the leaked 3.3.5 RUU that all the devs build upon, it's been around for forever. But the real thing never saw the light of day and now with ICS out, I think it never will. When HTC has a flagship phone, you can bet they will have a new one in 6 weeks time. The Sensation got replaced by the Sensation XE (Different ROM&Kernel, not just fancy new colours) and the Sensation XE got replaced by the HTC Rezound all in less than 6 months.

How many versions are there of the iPhone? Or even the Galaxy? It's common to release a phone and then revamp and add additional options. Just like cars. Not sure if you're big into Dom/Import, but every car model has several different lines. They don't make us a phone for good, they make one to appeal to a general audience and then through feedback and testing groups release a new model with additional functionality. Happens all the time.

HTC announced they will release ICS for Sensation around March. By that time, the Sensation will be a second class phone with quadcores already in the pipeline. The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work. And by that time, I will prolly get much less for it if sold than I would right now.

See the issue isn't with the phone or the MFR, the issue is when you bought your phone. We all knew ICS was coming. It's been a topic of discussion, since February? So how recently did you buy your phone? You, everyone with an HTC Sensation, and I bought the phone knowing that the tech was going to change and that there would be a new OS around the corner. If you were smart though you got a phone with dual-core so it would be in the lineup for ICS. Imagine if you had an Incredible or any other single-core phone. You would be SOL - FORGOTTEN. Doesn't matter if you have a Galaxy II or an iPhone, point is the phone will work best for others, the OS will change, and they will release additional phones with different options. For me the XE is a waste, could really care less about Beats and that came out a week after I purchased mine. The difference for me was I didn't have to pay a dime for my sensation, it was free with a contract. XE would have cost me 150 bucks and for that price I could have bought my own headphones and saved 50 bucks. There are plenty of roms that offer the Beats software.

My point was you are just complaining to complain. I just bought a new LED TV, now there is a bigger one available for the same price... It is a vicious cycle. I read up on tech sites and check MFR blogs and see what is available now and what is coming soon. If something is coming too soon that peaks my interest I wait to make a purchase.

Bottom line: The Sensation is a great phone, in fact it is by far the best Droid I have had to date. It's fast as hell, the battery lasts, and I've dropped the phone like 15 times with no case and I have no scratches whatsoever. To answer your question about ICS: YES this will make our phones even greater. Just wait for a stable rom and flash. Its exactly what I'm doing. I don't want to wait until May or whenever HTC actually decides to work on the project of porting it for Sense. The devs here are great and I'm pretty sure that we will have a fully functional version of ICS by the end of the year if not first part of Jan.

Guys is noone reading my posts properly? I am not complining about battery life per se. It's ok for me, plus I have 3 batteries. What sucks is that the phone can't display the correct battery readings, meaning it tells you it's 100% while in fact it's really 90something. Or you have 37% left and after rebooting its magically up to 49% os something like that.

All roms have this

I don't think any battery gauge is that effective. I don't think it would matter if you were using a Samsung, Moto, or an iPhone. I use mine as a guide and nothing else. Mine seems pretty accurate though. I would assume after a reboot the gauge may be off. Maybe its similar to like taking the batteries out of a dead remote and then replacing the same dead batteries and for some mysterious reason it still powers on the TV one or 2 more times.

 

[mattbutsko]

Guys is noone reading my posts properly? I am not complining about battery life per se. It's ok for me, plus I have 3 batteries. What sucks is that the phone can't display the correct battery readings, meaning it tells you it's 100% while in fact it's really 90something. Or you have 37% left and after rebooting its magically up to 49% os something like that.

All roms have this

Stop using different batteries. Different batteries with different charges with different levels of use are gonna mess up the phone's gauge. I use to do it on my N900, you can't expect the phone to suddenly know the proper levels of multiple batteries. Stick to one and optimize your software. Moderate to heavy use, I make it through the day just fine.

 

[undercover]

I shake your virtual hand my friend. Spot on!

Stop using different batteries. Different batteries with different charges with different levels of use are gonna mess up the phone's gauge. I use to do it on my N900, you can't expect the phone to suddenly know the proper levels of multiple batteries. Stick to one and optimize your software. Moderate to heavy use, I make it through the day just fine.

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[Johnsonyc]

LOL
1. Power Button Issue- You can use script to replace the power button with one of the 4 bottom home keys really easy with search and typing text. Anyway I help my friends and family members bought 10+ sensation 4g so far none of them complain about this. So if the people with this issue maybe you forget to pray? =)

2. Laggy? You better not for real. As you say Galaxy S II did better job? 5 of my co-worker with Galaxy S II but 3 of them already think about change to sensation xe or 4g. Yes with different rom or kernel you will see alot different the the same app some run really smooth and some app laggy like hell and FC all the time. But that is what android OS issue on all phone.

3. Touchscreen issue? no problem so far. Better typing experiences comment from iphone 4 and Galaxy S II users.

4. Speaker I agree HTC did sh1t job on the speaker but we all know it since day one. Nothing is prefect~

5. I agree too but who know will it fix on 4.0 rom from HTC let's see.

6. Camera I am ok with it. If you love Galaxy S II I better tell you one thing Galaxy S II you can't even use your finger to point and focus also with the same level lens you think it will do better job? You want better photo go for iphone 4s and try to date with Siri.

I know sensation 4g is not prefect but it was one of the best smartphone on the market so far. If someone ask my opinion about should I get sensation 4g or Galaxy S II the answer is clear I will recommend sensation 4G.

Galaxy S II with LTE technology is a Pros but the cover look so cheap made and the camera and the GUI sorry I will count it as Cons.

 

[stratax]

LOL
1. Power Button Issue- You can use script to replace the power button with one of the 4 bottom home keys really easy with search and typing text. Anyway I help my friends and family members bought 10+ sensation 4g so far none of them complain about this. So if the people with this issue maybe you forget to pray? =)

2. Laggy? You better not for real. As you say Galaxy S II did better job? 5 of my co-worker with Galaxy S II but 3 of them already think about change to sensation xe or 4g. Yes with different rom or kernel you will see alot different the the same app some run really smooth and some app laggy like hell and FC all the time. But that is what android OS issue on all phone.

3. Touchscreen issue? no problem so far. Better typing experiences comment from iphone 4 and Galaxy S II users.

4. Speaker I agree HTC did sh1t job on the speaker but we all know it since day one. Nothing is prefect~

5. I agree too but who know will it fix on 4.0 rom from HTC let's see.

6. Camera I am ok with it. If you love Galaxy S II I better tell you one thing Galaxy S II you can't even use your finger to point and focus also with the same level lens you think it will do better job? You want better photo go for iphone 4s and try to date with Siri.

I know sensation 4g is not prefect but it was one of the best smartphone on the market so far. If someone ask my opinion about should I get sensation 4g or Galaxy S II the answer is clear I will recommend sensation 4G.

Galaxy S II with LTE technology is a Pros but the cover look so cheap made and the camera and the GUI sorry I will count it as Cons.

agreed, and i dont even have any issue with the power button after i installed insertcoid. and the camera still flys past any moto device

also people look at the price difference. the GSII goes for like $400 on CL and the sensation you can get for about $250. and the only better thing the GSII has is camera(s), RAM. thats ALL. really, you people are going to pay that much more for these upgrades? lol its not even that much more RAM, with ICS it will run so much smoother and wont need as much RAM. so its rather pointless

and may i add, samsung has horrid customer support while HTC has had a record for GREAT support. if you have a defect/issue your phone will be replaced asap. after my behold 2 im never touching samsung again (phone wise). and you all samsung fanboys should look at the thread about the battery exlosion in the SGSII.

 

[yacbos]

1- what good is an android phone if you wont flash it ? right, custom roms, personalization, kernels, OC.... all these great try outs
2- battery is a major issue on all current smart phones (android, ios, even BB)
3- you still can buy a custom made battery (Mugen or Anker..)
4- just from the outside finish i would buy an HTC over any samsung phone for its built quality and finish
5- if you hate HTC that much go buy an iphone (apple are control freaks so it will be like buying your own phone and they would tell you what to do with it maybe that will help you )

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Stop using different batteries. Different batteries with different charges with different levels of use are gonna mess up the phone's gauge. I use to do it on my N900, you can't expect the phone to suddenly know the proper levels of multiple batteries. Stick to one and optimize your software. Moderate to heavy use, I make it through the day just fine.

well you can still change batteries and delete the batterystats.bin and recalibrate each time lol if you have that much time

 

[Pard0ned]

Why don't we just gather all the ones that got a "faulty" device and retards that have something against specific brands, me included I truly hate Apple , HTC samgay and all the rest brands and see which phone (brand) gets the most posts ala we hate, it sucks yada yada doo.

1. Sensation build quality is robust and good, I have had 3 units.
2. Sense is not for every one but some intend to like it.
3. HTC is one of the older players (the oldest) on the android market. They know how to create something that wasn't there f.ex dual core support gingerbread.
4. Great screen with great resolution.
5. Screw you I'm going home!

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Literally laughed out loud at "Samgay"! Haha.

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[Shagman68]

Close the thread MOD. You killed off all the ICS development threads, why are you not killing this i phone whiner?

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[Shagman68]

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[scstryfe]

I feel lucky, too. Not experienced any of those problems mentioned at the beginning of this post. I like the build and design of the Sensation and can only see ICS improving it. I'm looking forward to the official and custom ICS ROM's that are soon to come!