Does Note 2 (Allshare cast) work with PTV3000 (Miracast receiver)

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SS2006

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has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't

I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast

So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)

I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in

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SyCoQC

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has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't

I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast

So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)

I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in

Thanks

If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT

I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work :(

My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.

If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.

If someone else got it to work I would like to know also ;)
 

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If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT

I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work :(

My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.

If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.

If someone else got it to work I would like to know also ;)

Full Miracast support isn't approved until Android 4.2 (according to Wiki)
 

SyCoQC

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Just received an email from Netgear support:

Thank you for choosing NETGEAR. My name is ... and I will be your support expert. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Regarding the concern, sometime early next year Netgear will release the firmware for this device that will enable the Miracast to work with your smart phone. So at present you will not be able to use this feature from your Smart Phone.

I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
:(
 

ZenInsight

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Just received an email from Netgear support:



I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
:(

Ah..I see. AllSHare cast TO a PVT3000. Wow. That's a great idea!! The second it works I will buy a Netgear PVT 3000!

Edit: Found this.

I'm running Sprint GSIII w/ 4.1 and follow these steps:

1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.

.....and that's it. Whatever you do on the phone will display on your TV exactly as does in the palm of your hand. Sometimes I have to toggle the button on the side of the PTV3000 and restart the Allshare Cast app to get it to connect, but nothing else is necessary.


http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/224488-allshare-cast-netgear-ptv3000.html
 
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1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.

All that process is exactly what I do, but at step 4 it says "Connecting", for a while, then it fails :(

I have a Canadian Rogers Galaxy Note II with stock 4.1.1 rom (simply rooted). It looks like it should work but it doesn't. I've even tried to connect right after switching between the WiDi to Miracast mode (saw this trick elsewhere) but it's a no go.

I'll wait for Netgear update :angel:
 

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GS3 vs. GNII - shouldn't they both work??

It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!
 

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It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!

Yes strange, I thought GS3 and GN2 were very similar. I've tried may scenario like resetting my PTV3000 with the reset button, restarted my GN2, tried to connect right after switching mode, waited for a complete AllShare Cast scan... and no solutions seems to work at the moment.

If someone know how to make it work without any PTV3000 update I'm ready to try :p
 

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So is there any chance of extending the display to 1080p and outputting this to the miracast adapter? Ideally running two displays: An input device application (e.g. virtual KB/ mouse) on the phone and the main Android display on the monitor/TV?
Does a similar solution exist currently?
 

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maybe working with gn2

Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.

I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.

There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4

productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)

I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.

/cross fingers
 
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ZenInsight

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I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.

There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4

productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)

I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.

/cross fingers

If that is true I will buy one as well.

Edit:I asked some questions over in that forum as well.
 
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ZenInsight

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"Chris LudlowLevel 1 Post replyJan 14 (15 hours ago)
I can confirm that the 2.2.4 firmware works with my Note 2.
PTV3000 2.2.4
Fully stock Note 2 AT&T - with the new 4.1.2 JB (multi window) update from samsung.
I had tried 2.1.4, 2.1.5, 2.2.2 and none worked.
After applying the 2.2.4 firmware the 1st couple of times connection failed. It turned off my wifi on the phone for some reason. When I turned it back on, opened Chrome browser then pulled the drop down message/task window and hit the "AllShare Cast" button, voila! It connected and is working pretty darn well considering this is beta. Lag is about 1 second, but all I want to do is watch pod casts/videos. Youtube as well as videos from channel9.msdn.com are playing perfectly (which I believe uses a silverlight/html 5 player).
I received a text in the middle of a video, so I flipped out to read it (mirrored on TV perfectly) but when I went back to chrome, the TV was stuck on the view of my message. I turned off the allcast, back on and it's running fine again."

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/5kUFRgcEYXE/EaqSUrE58v8J


That's a done deal for me. Buying one. You can set up PS3 Media Server to run from a PC, and use UPNPlayer to access PS3 Media Server on the Note 2, then play a video through MX Player or DicePlayer and wirelessly, sending it to the Netgear PVT3000. And that's my goal.

I will put up a video once I have this working.
 
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It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.

Sent from my GT-N7100
 

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It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.

Sent from my GT-N7100

Apple requires an Apple TV to "Airplay" and this means obviously, totally closed source. Android is developing the open sourced Miracast into it's operating system base. That means ANY Miracast enabled device will allow for functioning wireless display. Samsung's All Share cast can already connect with a Samsung dongle OR a Samsung TV that has AllShare Cast enabled. BUT, Allshare ALSO works with a Miracast enabled receiver, like the PVT3000 which is in firmware dev right now.

PVT3000 firmware 2.2.4 works with Stock Allshare cast Samsung ROMS currently (with some noise issues).


While Android, being that it is open source doesn't have a dedicated wireless app, besides Miracast, is going to run behind Apple, once it is finished solving the bugs it will surpass Apple just like everything else in Android that has been refined does.

Take a look at the Nexus 4 Miracasting. And you don't need "Android/Google TV" to use it.

3:30 mark to see the delay from Nexus 4 to the screen (perfect for video...not for gaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvYrv2s9Kk

Now...see what NVIDIA has done using the Tegra 3 to enhance Miracast.

:35 mark for delay example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso

What's my point? It will get there, and when it does, it will be excellent.


EDIT: LG tv's are coming with Miracast built in. Check out this video. practically zero lag.

56 second mark for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzRWw5LNL4


Edit 2:

Also..AirPlay has HUGE delays. About 3-4 seconds. While Miracast is getting down to around 60MS.

http://forum.algoriddim.com/viewtopic.php?id=1307



Manufacturers getting on board with Miracast:

http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=62&y=15

and

http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=67&x=37&y=8


I would say with this kind of collaboration it won't be long before Miracast comes to Apple products, unless Apple doesn't want that...then they had better expand the allowed receivers and improve their latency dramatically.
 
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PVT3000 works on Galaxy Note 2 stock 4.1 ROM.

Ok. Received my Netgear PVT300 and here is what I have found so far. ONly testing with the 2.2.4 currently using a Galaxy Note 2 with stock ROM with power saving mode off.

1. NO noise line (garbled or digitized delays in the feed)

2. Sound and video sync fine.

3. If I am streaming Youtube, it seems that it works great, then may pause or stutter a bit. If I pick the phone up and click the power button or rotate the phone in my hand the stuttering goes away almost instantly. Like the phone has gone to sleep and moving it or pressing power brings the CPU back up to full speed. This may be important if Samsung needs to know that AllShare Cast sleeps too easily.

4. Netflix will NOT play through my wifi network when I have the AllShare cast on. Instead it grabs the cell tower for some weird reason. Also, equally as strange, Netflix plays the 16:9 (widescreen) videos in 4:3 (standard) making them look compressed...squished. Bizarre. As soon as I drop AllShare Cast the image goes widescreen and uses the wifi again.

5. Sometimes the AllShare complains that the stream is unstable and if I reconnect I might get a better signal. I am going to try placing the PVT in a better line of site place as it sits behind my HDTV right now.

6. And you aren't going to believe this one. I can connect to the PVT, then open up UPNPlayer, THEN...open a video that is being served from my PS3 Media Server off my PC, and play a 720P movie through the phone and out to the PVT. Unreal.

7. The only real hiccup is some actual frame dropping during playing. It's not bad...really barely noticeable But I can see it. If I have to guess I would say that there is a sync problem of some sort as the hiccup happens in a very evenly timed interval. Like every 23 out of 25 frames, that frame drops.

8. The delay is really minimal. I mean, you can see the delay from phone screen movement to TV, but even if you wanted to play a game...you could do it without much trouble if the game didn't require pinpoint reactivity (think Angry Birds Star Wars..lol)

Future testing plans:

I have not tried long term video playing, but I plan to and I plan to do it with the screen forced to stay on as well....just to see if the phone is deep sleeping and making the stream stutter because of it. I also plan to do all these same tests with 2.2.6 or the next beta that comes out (whichever happens first). I also want to try a customer ROM with a better kernel. I had a ROM on before and used the Perseus kernel and man....the phone was stupid fast. But I think it was killing the battery. Actually...that is another thing I wasnt to check. Making sure the battery can still charge while doing all of this. Sometimes running too many things and the GPS at the same time won't let the battery charge fast enough to beat the drain. Depends on your wall adapter really. Samsung's adapter is a 2 amp output and the phone needs it sometimes.

I could video my findings, but I doubt anyone cares that much.
 

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HDCP

With a rooted note 2 running CleanROM ACE, I consistently get HDCP errors when attempting to connect. My girlfriend's stock note 2 works fine.
I'm not an expert, however from what I've read most roms do not include the files for HDCP authentication. I searched my device for libstagefright_hdcp.so for example, and came up with nothing.
The question arises:
Can you simply toss those files in the file system where they need to be? Will this yield the desired result?

I've also seen discussion of Cyanogen including these files with a setting to disable HDCP if a device is buggy. Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks for your time.
 
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    maybe working with gn2

    Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.

    I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.

    There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4

    productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)

    I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.

    /cross fingers