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Question Does your S23 have camera issues? Blurred image? Bananagate? Other problems?

Do you suffer from blurry or out of focus images on stock camera?


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gil80

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I have this same issue and I got a silly response from samsung that this is a chariteristic of the camera. what a load of BS.
I bought this phone two weeks ago and I'm very disappointed to discover that the camera is crap like this.
 

Jason379

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Did anyone try Gcam to see if this issue is present?
Yes. I fully switched to using Gcam exclusively a while ago and it didn't do anything to 'fix' the issue. It's clearly hardware-based and can't be fixed with a firmware update. I guess it has something to do with a slight misalignment of one of the lens elements inside the camera module. My other guess would be a faulty lens element as in the element itself having imperfections on its surface - even the slightest bump on an otherwise flat surface can cause such optical issues.
 
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jvidia

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I gave my phone to the shop I bought it from and they are sending it to Samsung labs. I'm not optimistic at all... but it's the least I can do for now.
IMO, that's a waste of time as I've seen from other reports from people that did that too.

I don't know what to take instead.
That was my thought too but I ended returning it because I can not keep a such expensive device that is supposedly a top end phone with this kind of "feature".
 

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Yes. I fully switched to using Gcam exclusively a while ago and it didn't do anything to 'fix' the issue. It's clearly hardware-based and can't be fixed with a firmware update. I guess it has something to do with a slight misalignment of one of the lens elements inside the camera module. My other guess would be a faulty lens element as in the element itself having imperfections on its surface - even the slightest bump on an otherwise flat surface can cause such optical issues.
I see a lot of people saying this is a "normal effect" of using a large sensor. I don't buy this idea.
 
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Yes. I fully switched to using Gcam exclusively a while ago and it didn't do anything to 'fix' the issue. It's clearly hardware-based and can't be fixed with a firmware update. I guess it has something to do with a slight misalignment of one of the lens elements inside the camera module. My other guess would be a faulty lens element as in the element itself having imperfections on its surface - even the slightest bump on an otherwise flat surface can cause such optical issues.
A side question: Which Gcam APK and XML did you use? Other than the faulty camera issue, were you happier with the end results vs. the default Samsung camera?
I agree with your statement re: lens imperfection/misalignment
IMO, that's a waste of time as I've seen from other reports from people that did that too.
I believe you are correct, but I wanted to try first as this will give me some leverage when I'll activate my warranty to replace the phone. They won't be able to tell me "lets send it to the lab first..." as I've done that already. Any ideas which phones in the same S23+ category to take?
That was my thought too but I ended returning it because I can not keep a such expensive device that is supposedly a top end phone with this kind of "feature".
Completely agree.
 

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I see a lot of people saying this is a "normal effect" of using a large sensor. I don't buy this idea.
Nah, I'm not buying that particular argument either. Not even an iPhone 14 Pro is showing such optical issues. It's Samsung being Samsung again. Not trying to be offensive, but asian companies are notoriously struggling when it comes to having to admit any mistakes. They are afraid of 'losing their face' so they rather decide to not talk about anything at all.


A side question: Which Gcam APK and XML did you use? Other than the faulty camera issue, were you happier with the end results vs. the default Samsung camera?
I agree with your statement re: lens imperfection/misalignment

I believe you are correct, but I wanted to try first as this will give me some leverage when I'll activate my warranty to replace the phone. They won't be able to tell me "lets send it to the lab first..." as I've done that already. Any ideas which phones in the same S23+ category to take?

Completely agree.
I'm using LMC (R16) 8.4.300.414775575.18 in combination with JavaSabr's config (sharp), which I then tweaked even more to my liking.

I'm planning on replacing my S23 with the S23 Ultra but if I were you, I'd replace it with an Oppo Find X6 or even the Find X6 Pro - the cameras are amazing and do not have any of the optical issues that the S23 is suffering from.
 

gil80

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I'm planning on replacing my S23 with the S23 Ultra but if I were you, I'd replace it with an Oppo Find X6 or even the Find X6 Pro - the cameras are amazing and do not have any of the optical issues that the S23 is suffering from.
I have issues with companies like Oppo, Xiaomi and the likes... they are less suited for me. Samsung is a decent company, yet I agree that they will need a battery explosion to admit an issue.
For me it's either Google phone, Samsung or... iphone, which I dislike.

p.s. - what are the tweaks you applied?
 
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I have issues with companies like Oppo, Xiaomi and the likes... they are less suited for me. Samsung is a decent company, yet I agree that they will need a battery explosion to admit an issue.
For me it's either Google phone, Samsung or... iphone, which I dislike.

p.s. - what are the tweaks you applied?
Same thoughts about those brands here!

I'm trying to keep away from pure Chinese brands from security reasons.
 

jvidia

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Alternatives ....

iPhones are too expensive ....

I might try the Pixel 8 this year.

Pixel 7 has fingerprint reader problems. :(
 

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Alternatives ....

iPhones are too expensive ....

I might try the Pixel 8 this year.

Pixel 7 has fingerprint reader problems. :(
Just buy a S23 Ultra, it doesn't have those problems. Or much less because of it's very different photo array.
Cbeers.
 
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    If you want to try an alternate camera:

    1. Get AGC8.8.224_V7.0_samsung.apk from here

    2. Get the corresponding configs here

    3. Open GCam app on your phone, accept permissions. This should automatically create the folder /sdcard/Download/AGC.8.8/

    4. Copy the configs downloaded above into /sdcard/Download/AGC.8.8/configs/ Note that on the S23/S23+ you don't need the configs with names that contain "_s23u_". Only copy the configs with "_s23_"

    5. In the Gcam app click the drop-down arrow on the upper-left and select Load Configs. You can also go into Settings -> Custom file -> Load custom XML
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    I'm opening this topic to get this information to all S23/S23+ users.

    We have a serious problem with the camera and Samsung has come to say that it is a feature and so far Samsung has been washing its hands and not pronouncing itself, not even issuing a statement about this problem.

    Is your S23 good? Vote!

    Almost 6 years separate the OnePlus 5T from the S23+ and still, the 5T gets better definition and focus, despite the fact that the 5T already has enough problems with the Camera.

    But Samsung continues to say that it is a function and characteristic of the lens of the S23+ what is clearly seen in the "banana" effect is a circle of blur, perhaps not because of the sensor but because of the poor construction of the lens. I, like many others, feel cheated for having bought the S23.

    Look at the photos and draw conclusions.


    01 - OnePlus 5t (Large).jpg

    OnePlus 5T


    02 - S23+ (Large).jpg

    Samsung S23+

    03 - 5T vs S23+ (Medium).png

    5T vs S23+
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    Just after reading this thread, I can confirm the issue of unsharp areas in the image taken at 1.0 magnification rate at short distance is clearly there! But if zoomed in on 3x magnification, image is as sharp as it can get, corner to corner. Images taken at normal (meaning medium to far) distances don't exhibit any out of focus areas in my quick snapshots, but CLEARLY short/close up distances at 1.0 magnification show "the banana effect". Does it bother me? Absolutely!!! Can i live with it? It is just me I guess, but I can, using 3x zoom for occasional pictures of documents is fine with me. My model is EUX from Germany, if that's valid information to anyone.

    I'm not selling the phone because of this camera issue, because I like everything else I tested it for so far. But Samsung should man up and admit they're at fault here, whether it is a software or hardware issue (or combination of both, no idea). For such an expensive device one would expect ANYTHING captured during daytime/with plenty of light available (including) close up pictures to be as sharp as a razor, bloody hell!
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    My S23 256mb arrived yesterday and today I returned it!

    It had horrible focus and the bananagate effect too!

    My old Honor 8 from 2016 focus better on close subjects than S23.

    I refuse to believe this is normal on a 2023 flagship!
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    It seems it also has got the same problem. I've read reports about it by S23 Ultra owners.
    I haven't seen any valid claims regarding the S23U having the same issues so far. It's a completely different array. Also, the larger sensor inside the S23U gives the user way more depth of field, which can easily be mistaken for an optical error by some users.

    The S23 and S23+ models however clearly do suffer from a faulty lens design /misalignment of one of the lens elements. I just can't oversee and ignore it - no matter how good the 50mp sensor is actually performing.
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    Did anyone try Gcam to see if this issue is present?
    Yes. I fully switched to using Gcam exclusively a while ago and it didn't do anything to 'fix' the issue. It's clearly hardware-based and can't be fixed with a firmware update. I guess it has something to do with a slight misalignment of one of the lens elements inside the camera module. My other guess would be a faulty lens element as in the element itself having imperfections on its surface - even the slightest bump on an otherwise flat surface can cause such optical issues.