EE UK Sim Unlock

[bobby janow]

http://imgur.com/a/Wl5F4

cheers for this.

still think people will call fake on it.

14th of May when I can unlock and it's a ten day process, so i'm going to be pestering them from the 4th onwards

What exactly does that show?

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[y2grae]

three people have said they have received unlock codes and now can unlock their bootloaders...

apart from a full youtube video, what more do you actually want to see?

there is going to be some serious humble pie from you

should have said in previous post "bobby janow" will still call fake on it....

 

[valentyn82]

Hello.
Unlocking was done by EE? Due to expiration of the contract?
You called Support EE for unlocking.

PS: Be more explicit as you have done?

three people have said they have received unlock codes and now can unlock their bootloaders...

apart from a full youtube video, what more do you actually want to see?

there is going to be some serious humble pie from you

should have said in previous post "bobby janow" will still call fake on it....

 

[bobby janow]

three people have said they have received unlock codes and now can unlock their bootloaders...

apart from a full youtube video, what more do you actually want to see?

there is going to be some serious humble pie from you

should have said in previous post "bobby janow" will still call fake on it....

Received unlock codes? What a crock.. that is not bootloader unlock it's just a bunch of BS. This is not what anyone is looking for even if it's true, which I highly doubt.

A Youtube video? Come on man, you're kidding right?

Humble pie? What are you even referring to? Even if you get your so called "unlock code" (yeah right) what would that do for the rest of us? This is ridiculous already.

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Hello.
Unlocking was done by EE? Due to expiration of the contract?
You called Support EE for unlocking.

PS: Be more explicit as you have done?

He's done nothing. It's a joke and dare I say it.. no I won't.

 

[y2grae]

EE handsets are simlocked to EE.
After 6months you can call them and get your handset unlocked

The OEM unlock on EE (different to Verizon) states unavailable on mobile locked devices.
EE have mobile locked. When you get your unlock come through it isn't mobile locked anymore.

Surprisingly, round the 6month of release point we now have three separate users saying they've had their unlock and they can now unlock bootloader.

If you're not on EE then this isn't the thread for you in the first place, if you are then why are you so adamant that this can't happen?
Infact why are you so adamant this can't happen full stop?



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Oh and "what would it do for the rest of us?"

If you're on EE, as per the thread... It'd mean you could unlock your bootloader and flash ROMs/root etc....

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[bobby janow]

3 separate users? We've seen no proof. Show us some proof not a silly screenie.

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[y2grae]

Proof...
Hence the video comment.

You want someone to invite you over for the weekend whilst they receive it to show you it all in action?

Sake... What more can these people do other than take screen shots?

Oh wait, they can get in their delorean and go back in time just for you

What network are you on?

oh and regarding unlocking a device on EE
read this
http://ee.co.uk/help/getting-started/joining-ee/unlocking-your-device

now it's been 6 months pretty much since the 7.1.1 came in to play, and it's six months for EE to unlock a phone (read the link before you argue that)

but it's all just a conspiracy and the people with screenshots are just faking it.... /sarc


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[bobby janow]

Wow I can even unlock an Apple device. What's the bootloader unlock command for that? This is a joke.

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[y2grae]

Wow I can even unlock an Apple device. What's the bootloader unlock command for that? This is a joke.

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firstly, can you actually answer a question before you go off on your "i'm not listening la la la" with fingers in ears approach...
who is your provider? EE?


with the apple comment - do you know a bootloader from a sim unlock?
just so happens, on the pixel it appears to be tied to it.
Verizon and EE have locked their pixels differently

ok, you're sounding like you don't understand what's actually going on here.

you can sim unlock your EE device after 6 months.
the oem switch in developer options is tied to sim lock - "unavailable on mobile locked devices"
once the sim unlock is recieved, this is no longer a mobile locked device.

following so far?

we've had people who have followed this process, recieve their sim unlock - which has then changed the oem unlocking. THAT is what the screen shots were showing.

if you don't believe it, fine.
if you don't understand it, fine

however, it's time to stop being the person who doesn't actually understand what people are saying and showing...

 

[bobby janow]

firstly, can you actually answer a question before you go off on your "i'm not listening la la la" with fingers in ears approach...
who is your provider? EE?

Not pertinent to this discussion. Would it matter if I had them or some friends of mine? Why do you care? Frankly, it's none of your business either.

with the apple comment - do you know a bootloader from a sim unlock?
just so happens, on the pixel it appears to be tied to it.
Verizon and EE have locked their pixels differently

That's actually what the discussion is about. You have not proved that and until you do the rest of your so called arguments are moot. Prove that and I'll give you the win here. Nothing you have said, posted or screen shot has shown that to be true. I'll even take a statement from the provider that once you sim unlock you can magically bootloader unlock the device. I'm sure a lot of folks would like to see that. So now, put your money where your condescension is.

ok, you're sounding like you don't understand what's actually going on here.

Hmm.. interesting choice of words.

 

[y2grae]

Not pertinent to this discussion. Would it matter if I had them or some friends of mine? Why do you care? Frankly, it's none of your business either.

Bravo - on a quote SPECIFICALLY about EE branded/sold Pixel XL's it is 100% relevant to this discussion. I'd also suggest if you weren't on EE you should maybe leave this alone....

That's actually what the discussion is about. You have not proved that and until you do the rest of your so called arguments are moot. Prove that and I'll give you the win here. Nothing you have said, posted or screen shot has shown that to be true. I'll even take a statement from the provider that once you sim unlock you can magically bootloader unlock the device. I'm sure a lot of folks would like to see that. So now, put your money where your condescension is.

Hmm.. interesting choice of words.

Again... proof... what do you want as proof?
i've spoken to tech support on EE and 99.99% don't know what a bootloader is... it's not in their remit to know this, so your statement from EE is not going to come easily or quickly

i think (once again) you don't understand what is being implied here. (hence why the first point is kinda important/relevant/pertinent/insert any long word to make you feel smarter...

end of this is, EE customers have reported and shown on screenshots (you may not consider this proof, but you aren't Judge here....) that when the sim unlock (which if you read the link i posted previously) is achieved from the network themselves (a 10 day process and £8.99) - that this has the knock on effect of allowing the OEM switch to be selectable.
this has then allowed fastboot to open the bootlocker...

am i going too fast for you here?
seriously.. tell me if i am.

so

for me and the rest of us on EE, there is seemingly an unlock method following the 7.1.1 update that makes sense considering the message on the oem unlock switch.

if you don't have an EE phone then you won't have seen it (apart from in the screenshots that have been posted)

sorry that this goes against all that you believe in, but by now, frankly, I really don't care.

you can believe the EE bootloader can't be unlocked by this method, but make your own thread for "potential non EE customers who don't believe the EE bootloader can be unlocked following 7.1.1 by having the network sim unlock your handset."

i hope you have fun there

 

[bobby janow]

am i going too fast for you here?
seriously.. tell me if i am.

so

for me and the rest of us on EE, there is seemingly an unlock method following the 7.1.1 update that makes sense considering the message on the oem unlock switch.

I think you went too fast for your own brainless post. Seriously, tell me if I'm incorrect. A "seemingly" unlock method? So far all we have is your rhetoric and condescending attitude, which really serves no purpose other than to perhaps make yourself feel better? I don't really know your motivation but until you show proof that a sim unlock will make the device bootloader unlockable when it wasn't in the first place, well then you are just blowing hot air and sounding immature.

So dispense with your attitude and show us the money. I don't believe you have any proof at all. Prove me wrong.

 

[y2grae]

I think you went too fast for your own brainless post. Seriously, tell me if I'm incorrect. A "seemingly" unlock method? So far all we have is your rhetoric and condescending attitude, which really serves no purpose other than to perhaps make yourself feel better? I don't really know your motivation but until you show proof that a sim unlock will make the device bootloader unlockable when it wasn't in the first place, well then you are just blowing hot air and sounding immature.

So dispense with your attitude and show us the money. I don't believe you have any proof at all. Prove me wrong.

Firstly, it is you with the attitude that has the issue here.
you've waltzed into a thread about a UK network mobile, and shown zero respect to anyone, so you get treated with the same lack of it.

your iphone comment seriously means that you don't understand what you are on about... is the world flat to you?

i'll go slow here

thread about EE sim unlock
this is ONLY for phones on EE (this is why i asked if you were on EE - a question you've dodged EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE ASKED YOU)
The bootloader is locked on EE. The OEM switch is greyed out.
same as verizon, except - the message on the greyed out is different.

the screenshots provided, whilst they may not be "proof" according to your jaded self, comply with the given theory that when the mobile is unlocked from its sim lock, that the OEM slider would stop being greyed out.

the screenshot provided by one user, imo, confirms this. resulting with bootloader able to be unlocked. not as a direct action of the network, but by proxy of them sim unlocking it

i'm sorry you don't agree with this, however, you also seem to find the prospect of a network unlocking its phone for a customer to be alien....

if this still doesn't sit with you...

I have a ball, perhaps you'd like to bounce it?

 

[buzzboy]

I think we should all hold fire and wait for some definitive proof. I have doubts myself, only because I've never heard or seen any past cases where sim unlock gives the ability to unlock the bootloader on any other device prior to the Pixel. But as an EE customer myself, I would love it to be true. (I was lucky with my Pixel and used Depixel8).

 

[y2grae]

I think what's been provided fits with the mobile locked OEM switch.
Verizon and EE are very different

As I've stated I'm getting my code soon, so, what would you like as proof when it happens?
My six month date is 14th so I'm going to be shouting at them from the 4th

My bootloader is locked and I was settling in to life on stock

I missed depixel and got 7.1.1 so I'm hyped that this

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[bobby janow]

I think we should all hold fire and wait for some definitive proof. I have doubts myself, only because I've never heard or seen any past cases where sim unlock gives the ability to unlock the bootloader on any other device prior to the Pixel. But as an EE customer myself, I would love it to be true. (I was lucky with my Pixel and used Depixel8).

But don't you think if it were true it would be well known and reported by more than one person? One of the issues here is that there are very few people who know what it is that determines the oem unlock switch to be toggle-able. It's been theorized that it was the sim and that has been shown to be a false flag. The images are identical as are the bootloaders so we know it's not that. Perhaps the IMEI? No one has denied that but neither have they confirmed it.

So maybe the one individual that posted a screenshot was lucky or never checked it before the sim unlock on the device. I would like to see a device with an IMEI (black out some of it) showing it grayed out and then the same device with it not grayed out. Until I see that I consider it bl locked for eternity. lol Ok, well maybe not that long but..

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the screenshots provided, whilst they may not be "proof" ...

First correct thing you've said all day. Well you also called me jaded, which technically is not correct but I can grant you skeptical. Very skeptical at that.

 

[y2grae]

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First correct thing you've said all day. Well you also called me jaded, which technically is not correct but I can grant you skeptical. Very skeptical at that.[/QUOTE]


i'd say really very f'ing skeptical


with EE you have to wait 6 months before the pixel can be sim unlocked.
7.1.1 is approx six months old.
(mine upgraded almost out of the box and my six months is up very shortly)

there have been 3 independent (unverified) reports of this happening.

I'm doubtful but very optimistic as I know EE aren't verizon - EE seriously don't know what a bootloader is.

the bootloader being locked out on a sim lock seems totally google's work, and I think that'd be a better avenue for "official" confirmation. I'd hope google know their phones.

I'm under no illusions that Verizon bootloaders are locked for eternity.
But the greyed out message on the oem lock is different to the EE version.
which leads to Verizon actively (or getting google to actively) close it off


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[bobby janow]

there have been 3 independent (unverified) reports of this happening.

I'm doubtful but very optimistic as I know EE aren't verizon - EE seriously don't know what a bootloader is.

Yes, I saw those 3 unverified reports. If you get your toggle switch to turn on then I think we can consider that verified. But remember there was a thread about that with the Verizon phones. Someone thought the sim contacted Verizon and then it became not unlockable. That never panned out, many people tried it and failed. There was even a Reddit thread that confirmed it didn't work. That's why I'm leery of this working. But it's all speculation since I, or anyone that is in the know, have not seen what it is that determines the toggle. It can't be Verizon since some people got vzw replacements and could unlock.

I've been told to reverse engineer the device on my own to find out what causes the lock. I can't do that nor do I care that much. But if someone who knows could chime in it would put this all to rest. My feeling is they are being entertained by the speculation but who know. I wish you luck as I'm sure there are a bunch of folks that would like to do this as well. I guess we'll know soon enough.

 

[y2grae]

Well know 24th at the latest and 14th at the earliest.

I do get that we've had Verizon reports all over the place but I thought we'd had confirmation that Verizon had actively locked theirs.
The OEM toggle message being different does give me hope for the EE models.

The Google plays versions are unlockable bootloader but aren't sim locked, which again tallies with the theory I'm sporting here.

I bet if we could sim lock a Google one, it would have the same OEM message on the toggle as EE models and not the same as Verizon

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[TonikJDK]

I bet if we could sim lock a Google one, it would have the same OEM message on the toggle as EE models and not the same as Verizon

You are on to something. It would be child's play to code the slider to gray out when the phone is sim locked. The whole locking system on this phone is different. It is far more software controlled.