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I've decided to return to Android and bought an used S21 Ultra for 650€. Saw no reason to go S22 and no other Android brand ticked all my needs.

The feedback has been positive: good screen, sound and build quality, no issues with battery, dex mode works very well. Regarding the camera, I'm not fully convinced yet: in Pro mode I have taken incredible photos. But in regular mode, I feel the iPhone to be superior in focus and indoors / low light.

What I really want is a foldable - a screen that big is really a game changer in the smartphone experience. I'm waiting for a good deal on Z Fold 3 or maybe go Z Fold 4 if it's lighter and has better cameras than 3.
 

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My htc u11 died today. It was a beast.

Now all i want is a flagship so i can keep it 3-4 years. The one thing i cant stand is edge screens. So that leaves me only with samsung(exynos unfortunately). My other choice is realme gt 2 pro but i played a little bit with it and i didnt like the software. Where are my choices? Am i that strange?

I would have bought galaxy a52s but i dont know if a midrange phone can keep up many years without slow down. I know we have said the same things many times but....pffff
 

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If you don't care too much about the cameras you can pick the Oneplus 10 pro or else an S21U or S22U snapdragon
Oneplus is off cause if the edge screen. I red today that samsung may put snapdragon on next years flagships in all the world cause the new chip they are developing wont be ready until 2025. So i will probably buy a52s for a while until the new flagships. If they dont put snap then i will start again from scratch. :)
 

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I've decided to return to Android and bought an used S21 Ultra for 650€. Saw no reason to go S22 and no other Android brand ticked all my needs.

The feedback has been positive: good screen, sound and build quality, no issues with battery, dex mode works very well. Regarding the camera, I'm not fully convinced yet: in Pro mode I have taken incredible photos. But in regular mode, I feel the iPhone to be superior in focus and indoors / low light.

What I really want is a foldable - a screen that big is really a game changer in the smartphone experience. I'm waiting for a good deal on Z Fold 3 or maybe go Z Fold 4 if it's lighter and has better cameras than 3.

You've made the right choice, s8g1 seems to be botched this year and s22 lineup up is not well balanced

S21U if u want the full thing or s21/s21FE if you want a smaller offering, even MKBHD is still on s21u

Btw camera was ruined in the latest OneUI update but then they've quickly fixed it via app updates

Oneplus is off cause if the edge screen. I red today that samsung may put snapdragon on next years flagships in all the world cause the new chip they are developing wont be ready until 2025. So i will probably buy a52s for a while until the new flagships. If they dont put snap then i will start again from scratch. :)

A52s is a very good offer especially since you get SD and Headphones port, so far it's great but you need to able to handle its size

Otherwise a better choice would be s21 or s21FE snapdragon or even S20FE

Seriously enjoying my vanilla s21 and even this size is not on the small side in my opinion
 
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Nice to see that HTC is still developing and inovating.

My HTC U11 is slowly dying. My son used it for a while, and after a drop I changed the screen assembly around new year. It worked perfectly since then, but suddenly the screen stays black and touch is not responding. The buttons on the side do work, and the phone turns off and on. I ordered another phone for him and when it arrives, I will try to fix the U11 again. Maybe it's just a connector that came loose.
 

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Hi everybody who are still here and especially to Hamdir:)

I've been far away for so long from the forum but after using my U11 for 5 years w/o single update (still using Android 7.1.1 :)) I'm back to look for an updated ROM cause finally phone started to giving me some problems like late response etc :))
BTW, don't know if it would stop working what should I buy, I am a little bit of loyal I think :))
BTW, noticed that I've been member of this thread for 9 years, we had great time in the past:) Just wanted to say hi. Cheers guys and dear Hamdir.
 
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    update 11/4/2016: the render are extremely close, official HTC 3D renders

    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - dual tone metallic colors (original date 16/3/2016)

    click for bigger size

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    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    here we go, after a week of hell, this finally landed here today (TW 32GB)

    photos taken by the M9S:

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    my 10 rave fitbag arrives on Tuesday but my trusty old M8 one works as well

    I need to express my thanks for @imOJ for all the trouble he went through to help me get this, this guy rocks and i love Dubai!

    phenomenal build quality, this must be the first time i've unboxed an HTC flagships with zero QC quirks, despite all the beauty shots and my work on the 3D render it still hit me, the buttons are simply insane like an expensive piece of machinery, the chamfer makes the phone feels so slim and the weight is the same for M8 / M9 carriers, the grey and the black 2.5D glass combo is simple drool inducing, those getting the silver white are making a huge mistake, there are no plastics to be seen and even the plastic patch on top is awesome

    the box looks the same as the M9 from the outside but the inside is fancier, soft coated and much better organized, all the included stuff QC 3.0 charger, earbuds and Type-C cable feels much fancier than previous devices, by the time you finish unboxing one conclusion is clear, this is new chapter for HTC

    the camera out of box is nothing like we've seen lately so i've skipped testing it and installing 1.30 before i touch it

    the screen is on the surface and anyone thinking otherwise is lying to himself, the screen looks pinkish out of box for few reasons: auto brightness and the vivid mode, i have spent half an hour testing various settings, angles and doing comparisons which i will show you tomorrow but for now: I have strong evidence that this a matter of glue, actually its right there in @jmitr photos ;)

    once you raise the brightness to full and change your settings the screen will impress, i agree with David Ruddock, Vivid mode sucks! it's almost disgusting so i have switched to sRGB mode which is gorgeous and the temp slider to full cold, never seen such good whites, even with sRGB it's still greatly saturated vs M9, in short with sRGB this is extremely close to the iPhone, the coolest bit? using it at full brightness with auto disabled doesnt warm the screen at all (suggesting that the screen brightness is capped with the real full reserved for the sun)

    ghosting...sadly its true, its a regression from the M9 but hey i've spent the year fighting with everyone here who refused to believe that the M9 screen is much better versus the M8 in terms of smoothness feel ie: refresh rate, so if you worship the M8 screen you will have no problem as the 10 is better than the M8 just not as good as the M9 in terms of ghosting

    speakers: OMG, just ignore all the non sense you've read, its LOUD, louder than the M9 and the sound is much crisper, its just not dimensional like the M9 but its clearer and louder from every angle, finally music mode makes the difference, it sounds like stereo, the default theatre mode is inferior to the M9, we have yet another incident of reviewers being too lazy to switch a stupid setting

    more tomorrow
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    I have decided to show you this, my mockup of the M10, because i don't want to give Evan the pleasure of spoiling the M10 for us, like he did with that God awful washed out photo he has released, here is my render of the M10 which i had made earlier but now corrected to measurements after Evan's front reveal, this is made from all the insider information i have of the M10

    note: this mockup does not show the hidden thing on the front ;)

    you can really understand the codename now, this is the cleanest most symmetrical phone HTC ever made, it contains the essence of HTC but fulfils everything the press has been asking for
    - no logo bar
    - improved screen to body ratio hence its expect to have the same size as M9 with bigger screen, 5.2"
    - AOSP like UX
    - heavy loaded camera hardware

    update v2: refined render with corrected rear camera size, fingerprint shape and clearer bezel
    update v3: fractionally wider in order to perfectly fit the M9+ 5.2" screen proportions and every sensor on the front including the speaker was readjusted to match the evleak photo, brighter colors, fixed broken front USB center on v2
    update v4: adjusted fingerprint shape based on evidence of alternate prototype, so it could be either v3 or v4 as two prototypes exist
    update v5: bigger rear camera and flash/IR, antenna's location corrected based on latest leak, FP scanner, speaker, front camera and proximity corrected using the white photo
    update v5a with Sense 8 mock-up: trying to show case how the M10 looks with black wallpaper thanks to Amoled and Sense 8 colors, Desire 825 capacitive buttons plus color tweaks here and there for better looks
    update v6a: added the back chamfer matching the silver leak, hence rear camera combo gets smaller just a bit and the side tapers approach M9
    update v7a: back chamfer is now more solid
    update v8: added real Sense 8 icons

    update 4/3/2016: the official M10 render was leaked, comparison with my mock-ups over here

    My pre-leak mock-up vs official leaked render by evleaks

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    HTC One M10 - codename Perfume mock up renders

    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v8 with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5b
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v4
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v3
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v2
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v1
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    A9/Aero - official render
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    M9/Hima - official render
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    M10's bezel improvements vs the A9 (sense screenshot from A9)
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    and this cutout to give you an idea of the back curvature and edges
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    here we can see the metallic bumper accessory, how v5 was corrected and comparison between A9/M9/M10
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    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - Black





    click for bigger size

    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    Well guys, it's a sad day. For the first time since I started using Android, I won't be buying the HTC flagship. It's sad because I really love HTC phones, and I got my start as a developer on HTC phones. But I think it's time to move on. My sincere thanks to all the HTC community here for supporting my kernels and apps over the years. I hope people aren't let down by me not getting the U12. I'll continue to support my kernels for the 10 and U11.

    Why am I not getting the U12? The honest answer is not enough users. I spend several thousand dollars per year on phones, supported by the revenues from my apps. It's pretty much a guarantee that I will lose money on the U12. I'm already really busy with more popular devices, so I can't justify spending another $1100 on a device that will have few users and require a lot of effort to maintain. HTC devices are a huge hassle to support compared to Pixel and OnePlus and even Moto. HTC still sends their kernel sources as a blob with no commit history, and they are routinely several months late in releasing them. Plus there are endless variants and weird HTC-specific quirks to deal with.

    Back in the day, HTC was definitely the best. Phones like the One S and m7 really stood above the competition. Looking back, it was the m9 that killed HTC. It was really a dud. The brilliance of the HTC 10 couldn't make up for it and although the U11 was a fine phone, I just never enjoyed it as much as my other current phones, which have really progressed in the last couple years.