Question Experience Performance of the vivo x80 pro and heating issues

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lemonade747

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Understandably. Is your S22U a SD or an Exynos version? If you aren't having battery and overheating issues, that's already a big plus.
I have SD version and honestly I couldn't feel any heating issue or battery drain from day one. Many people on XDA or reddit just complained that the s22U battery is the worst, but that's not my case; always get around 7-8 SoT. 20% left, 1.5-2 days use. It's not the feeling when you spent over $1000 for a phone and you relieve yourself "it's ok, my phone is good". I actually bought this phone for $700 and that's a really good deal for me, so no complaint so far except the bad shutter lag. That's a main reason why I want to give vivo a shot.

Personally, I think the X80 Pro beats the S22U in every area in the camera department (except zoom, of course). A lot of reviewers skip over daytimes photos, considering that it's a given that all phones get decent pictures in good lighting conditions, but I'm finding that the detail retention in the shadows, proper contrast, etc., on the Vivo are way ahead of anything I've seen on on a Samsung. At first I thought "you have to look closely and be a little fussy to appreciate it" , then you find yourself taking pics in HDR situations and the results are flat-out amazing! I mean...the picture below was taking directly towards the sun. Look at the mountains, the van...the overall balance is impressive.
Yes I can feel what you think and how you enjoy it. Actually, x80 pro is the only camera phone makes me feel it's worth trying in 2022 after 5 years having many Huawei phones Mate 10, Mate 20 pro, P30P, M40 Pro and now S22U. If you have ever tried Huawei, you will see Huawei is still the best balance between camera day and night, performance and battery, but of course, coming with no Google is killing it. If it had google again, for sure I'll go for it 100 times.

Yeah, I think that pretty much sums it up. If an amazing camera is your top priority, it's a great option, as long as you don't care about battery life, overheating and an unpolished, sometimes buggy, dated-looking UI.

I'm still on the fence on whether I'll be keeping it or not. I'm trying to accept the idea of conceiving battery life in a new way just because I love the camera so much and because there's nothing else on the market that convinces me; but it still pains me to have spent this kind of money on sometimes that falls so short of what a product in this price range should be...

I plan on taking it out for some more navigation and GPS recording trips in the next few days to see if it's capable of holding up to the use I give it. If it's unable to perform (what I consider) basic tasks without almost catching on fire, which a 3-year-old phone has no issues with, I'll definitely return it.
Some users reported that when the phone temperature increases upto 60C or higher, it will be laggy as hell for normal operation. You can't even open the camera since it said something like the temperature is too high, please cool down to process... Not sure since I don't have the phone, but it's widely known as one heating issue if the phone is overwhelming.

If this is a software bug or bad optimization then I guess vivo can release an update for it soon, but if this is a hardware issue then it's almost impossible to fix completely you know. I'll wait and see if there are any phones that impress me a lot like this until the end of this year. If not, then just keep my S22U since it has only shutter lag issue and that problem can only be seen if I want to take anything moving quickly; not really a big deal for normal users.
 
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hi guys, ive received my x80 pro yesterday ...and its kind of mixed bad ... phone heats up over 40 degress C easily ,and can idle at around 35-38 .. thats pretty hot.... my op8pro ren easily 10 degrees less ... all that with really light use... is that normal or should i send it back ? what do you think ?
another thing is lack of google services . ive managed to install play store and everything run fine until i hooked up adb and did bit of debloating ... iam quite sure i didnt uninstall anything else than what was discribed safe in x70 pro plus posts... i can install it back now but it wont run ... help me please ...
 

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Couple of new insights on the phone while I'm on vacation:

1) while it was during the heatwave, the phone throttled massively outside when i was trying to take photos and listen to music with full brightness.
Now it's understandable but it throttled to the point that even the animations were laggy like on 10 years old device, never happened on my Huawei.

2) Animation lag is real specially after phone boots up and loads apps, switching between them creates a millisecond delay that's noticeable, i think it's because of the bad LTPO implemention.

3) Battery life is an issue but might be better than other SD8GEN1 devices, the SOC really kills the battery and phone ultimate potential, it could be the best phone easily.

4) On the positive side, the camera is unmatched specially at night, they really good that right.


I'll share battery stats later and hopefully we can pinpoint the problem with logs for vivo to fix, as this phone is too good to give up.
 
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hi guys, ive received my x80 pro yesterday ...and its kind of mixed bad ... phone heats up over 40 degress C easily ,and can idle at around 35-38 .. thats pretty hot.... my op8pro ren easily 10 degrees less ... all that with really light use... is that normal or should i send it back ? what do you think ?
another thing is lack of google services . ive managed to install play store and everything run fine until i hooked up adb and did bit of debloating ... iam quite sure i didnt uninstall anything else than what was discribed safe in x70 pro plus posts... i can install it back now but it wont run ... help me please ...
just do factory reset then everything will come back as in initial state. For the heating issue, it's widely known for this x80 pro. This reason just holds me back to buy it.
 
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Couple of new insights on the phone while I'm on vacation:

1) while it was during the heatwave, the phone throttled massively outside when i was trying to take photos and listen to music with full brightness.
Now it's understandable but it throttled to the point that even the animations were laggy like on 10 years old device, never happened on my Huawei.

2) Animation lag is real specially after phone boots up and loads apps, switching between them creates a millisecond delay that's noticeable, i think it's because of the bad LTPO implemention.

3) Battery life is an issue but might be better than other SD8GEN1 devices, the SOC really kills the battery and phone ultimate potential, it could be the best phone easily.

4) On the positive side, the camera is unmatched specially at night, they really good that right.


I'll share battery stats later and hopefully we can pinpoint the problem with logs for vivo to fix, as this phone is too good to give up.
Good to hear this. Not sure if vivo is gonna fix it or not. If not, then I would say no to it.
 

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just do factory reset then everything will come back as in initial state. For the heating issue, it's widely known for this x80 pro. This reason just holds me back to buy it.
iam aware of that buddy .did reset couple of times so far.. the problem is that even if i wont use adb to debloat , google services will stop working .literally i can install play store and some google related apps ,like youtube ,youtube music and so on and start using phone normaly and aftter an hour or so i cant login to any of these... i think iam gonna return this phone ..to bad, such a great camera ... i probably could live with oveheating but not without google services ...
 

lemonade747

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iam aware of that buddy .did reset couple of times so far.. the problem is that even if i wont use adb to debloat , google services will stop working .literally i can install play store and some google related apps ,like youtube ,youtube music and so on and start using phone normaly and aftter an hour or so i cant login to any of these... i think iam gonna return this phone ..to bad, such a great camera ... i probably could live with oveheating but not without google services ...
What version you have? Funtouch or Origin OS? As I read somewhere that Origin OS has some problems of installing and running google services.
 

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Hi everyone,

I got the phone when it was released in France at beginning of the month and so far I'm not disappointed. The battery life is far from perfect but that was expected and that's not the reason I bought the phone. Coming from a Mi Note 10 I bought it for the camera and for that matter I'm not disappointed at all.

I would have a couple of questions though :
- when using the default main mode, the lights are less "shiny" (I don't know the perfect term) giving more details to the surroundings. So far I've been unable to find a way to get the same result with the other modes
- in the picture below, the 12Mpix mode gives me an orange reflection on the water but I've been unable to find the right setting for the high res mode. The 50 Mpix pictures gave me a white reflection on the sea. I tried to find settings on the high res mode but it doesn't seem to have a lot of them. Is it normal to have so few settings for this mode ? For example, I'd have liked to get the Zeiss mode in high resolution.

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wimbawaya

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I have SD version and honestly I couldn't feel any heating issue or battery drain from day one. Many people on XDA or reddit just complained that the s22U battery is the worst, but that's not my case; always get around 7-8 SoT. 20% left, 1.5-2 days use. It's not the feeling when you spent over $1000 for a phone and you relieve yourself "it's ok, my phone is good". I actually bought this phone for $700 and that's a really good deal for me, so no complaint so far except the bad shutter lag. That's a main reason why I want to give vivo a shot.
Looks like you got lucky! Honestly, if I were you...if the only "problem" is the shutter lag (alrthough samsung is proving very slow to address this), and you're happy with the phone overall, I'd hang on to it. If the X80 Pro were issue-free and with a more polished, non-buggy UI, I'd say "give it a try", but as things are, I'd stick the the S22U.

If you have ever tried Huawei, you will see Huawei is still the best balance between camera day and night, performance and battery, but of course, coming with no Google is killing it. If it had google again, for sure I'll go for it 100 times.
I totally understand what you mean, I've been using a P30 Pro since release--best phone I've ever had. If it weren't for the damn US ban and consequent lack of Google services, Huawei would completely dominate the Android world (being the "Apple" of Android)

If this is a software bug or bad optimization then I guess vivo can release an update for it soon, but if this is a hardware issue then it's almost impossible to fix completely you know. I'll wait and see if there are any phones that impress me a lot like this until the end of this year. If not, then just keep my S22U since it has only shutter lag issue and that problem can only be seen if I want to take anything moving quickly; not really a big deal for normal users.

Even if it's software, u2sers shouldn't be unknowing Beta testers. When I buy a flashship phone, I want it to work well NOW, not in 6 months. I'd wait if i were you and see what is released with the SD 8 Gen 1+, or Gen 2, which hopefully will be more power efficient...
 

wimbawaya

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Couple of new insights on the phone while I'm on vacation:

1) while it was during the heatwave, the phone throttled massively outside when i was trying to take photos and listen to music with full brightness.
Now it's understandable but it throttled to the point that even the animations were laggy like on 10 years old device, never happened on my Huawei.

2) Animation lag is real specially after phone boots up and loads apps, switching between them creates a millisecond delay that's noticeable, i think it's because of the bad LTPO implemention.

3) Battery life is an issue but might be better than other SD8GEN1 devices, the SOC really kills the battery and phone ultimate potential, it could be the best phone easily.

4) On the positive side, the camera is unmatched specially at night, they really good that right.


I'll share battery stats later and hopefully we can pinpoint the problem with logs for vivo to fix, as this phone is too good to give up.

Exact same experience here. During the heat wave the phone was easily idling at 46º C, meaning that even the slightest CPU activity caused it to overheat and start lagging. This never happened on my P30Pro...

2) Same here with the animations, I also thought it was probably a hurried LTPO implementation. But even switching to 60Hz, I still get a small lag.

3) Yeah, a lot of SD8Gen1 phones seem to share this issue. Such a shame 'cause this phone could be "the one to rule them all". I sooo wish they'd shipped to Europe with the Dimensity chip. Having the SD, aside from more over-heating and worse battery life, means we'll get fewer updates, and much later, since the amount of SD units sold will be way less than Dim9000, which is where Vivo is going to focus.

4) Yeah, IMPRESSIVE camera. My only gripes to far is that the best stabilization is on the 2X telephoto, which is kind of pointless for video, and that you can't use all 4 lenses in 8K, 4K, with AI on or with HDR10+ on. Night video is AMAZING though, although in my experience, AI does cause a bit of stuttering when panning (while completely smooth with no AI)

My only other gripes:

a) Notifications: I thought I'd gotten them fixed for Protonmail by unrestricting background power usage (Not that you have to do it twice: if you change it via app info > battery and select Unrestricted, and then go to Settings > battery > background power consumption management and look for that app, it's power profile will still appear as Smart switch, so you have to change it there too). But now they've started failing again. I often don't get notifications for Telegram or Whatsapp either, even though both have unrestricted power usage and were giving me no problems until now. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe Vivo will fix this at some point, but I use this phone for work (I'm a freelancer) and have lost a couple of projects already because I didn't see an email until an hour later and the project was urgent and assigned to someone else, so I can't really afford to have this kind of bug.

b) Bluetooth for calls often fails. I choose my BT earbuds (paired and used for music before making the called), and while in the call, the audio/mic being used are the phone's internal ones instead of the BT device, even though it shows the BT device as the active device for the call. This has happened with two separate BT devices and the only solution I've phone is to reboot the phone (which doesn't always solve it), or to unpair and repair the BT device.

c) I use the travel tracking app Polarsteps since I'm a digital nomad, and it took forever to get it working properly. It uses a mixture of wifi, cellular triangulating and GPS to determine your location in the background, and refused to update my location. After setting "unrestricted background power usage" via the two different ways mentioned before, to no avail, I had to delete cache and data, uninstall, and reinstall several times. What worked in the end was changing all these settings and granting all the right permissions before launching the app for the first time. Who knows...

d) Idle battery drain is pretty bad. Right now I've had my phone on for 10.5h since last full charge, with 3.5h SoT and 45% battery left (battery life seems to be improving gradually), but battery drain is 67% higher with the screen off the with the screen on. According to GSAM Bat. monitor, most of the background drain comes from Android system and Kernel.

Overnight, with WiFi and mobile data off (and, obviously, screen off), the phone drained 10% over a 7-hour period. With battery saver on and the same conditions, battery drain was 3%. Tonight I'll try with Flight Mode enabled.

On the plus side:

- I just discovered the "effect master" mode in the camera. It's awesome to be able to control exposure and saturation so easily, jus dragging you finger left/right and up/down. Try it out if you haven't!
- Motion autofocus works really well (as long as there's good lighting). How to use here. The video is actually worth watching in its entirety, good tips on certain features I wasn't aware of (Like "effect master" or "Super.raw".
- Again, the camera on this thing is AMAZING.
 
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when using the default main mode, the lights are less "shiny" (I don't know the perfect term) giving more details to the surroundings. So far I've been unable to find a way to get the same result with the other modes

Some of that might have to do with AI and auto-HDR. Try disabling them (Auto-HDR is on the top of the screen; AI on the bottom left). You can also play with exposure and saturation by activating "Effects master" (top-right settings menu > effects master, then drag your finger right/left to adjust saturation, and up/down to adjust exposure)

in the picture below, the 12Mpix mode gives me an orange reflection on the water but I've been unable to find the right setting for the high res mode. The 50 Mpix pictures gave me a white reflection on the sea. I tried to find settings on the high res mode but it doesn't seem to have a lot of them. Is it normal to have so few settings for this mode ? For example, I'd have liked to get the Zeiss mode in high resolution.
Unfortunately, the amount of options in high-res mode are pretty limited: No Zeiss color mode, no HDR, no AI, and most surprisingly, no RAW mode.

Unless high-res is super important to you, the place where you'll get the most control is in Pro mode, where you can use Super-raw, which will allow you to retain AI/HDR enhancements while also giving you the flexibility of proper editing of "digital negatives".
 

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By the way, are you guys reporting bugs/things that need improving via the Vivo.com app > Support > Feedback? I think we should really make some noise and submit all of our complaints so that maybe they'll address them
 
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By the way, are you guys reporting bugs/things that need improving via the Vivo.com app > Support > Feedback? I think we should really make some noise and submit all of our complaints so that maybe they'll address them

Very good feedback mate, we need to forward all of this to vivo together and separately.

Camera is top-notch but the animations bugs, notifications and battery needs a major rework.

Idle drain is bad unless you're on airplane mode or use the phone all the time, it seems vivo kernel combined with android causing some issues.

Wish we could have more control on cpu power, likely to reduce it without forcing the phone going to power save mode and have all other effect on.

Let's forward all of this to vivo via live chat and the feedback app.
 

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hi i have bought vivo x80 pro on last 13th June 2022 . Just after 1 month of use on 14th July i have noticed over heating issue so i went to service center on 18th July and today is 27th July 2022 my mobile is at Jalpaiguri West Bengal Service center from last 21 St July 2022 still today. Now they are saying getting Temperature about 47*c is normal it might be fixed on next update (which they don't know when it will come ) and also they can't assure the next update will fix the issue in future or not. So now VIVO service center is asking me to take the mobile and go home and wait for uncertain time to solve this issue on my own. So now i want to know what shall I do after spending 80000 rupees ?
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I have added a video also where you can see in the end of the video the camera becoming blurry cause of over heat.
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How can they be sure that the next update will fix it?

Have you tried Vivo live chat as well?

You should direct them to this forum as well as they appear to take some notes.

I've got a new update on trial version that suppose to fix some lag and improve mobile data drain, just testing it but at least they do appear to try and solve those issues.
 
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How can they be sure that the next update will fix it?

Have you tried Vivo live chat as well?

You should direct them to this forum as well as they appear to take some notes.

I've got a new update on trial version that suppose to fix some lag and improve mobile data drain, just testing it but at least they do appear to try and solve those issues.
they dont know anything they just assuming next update might fix the issue or i have to go to service center again.
already from last 7 days i had wasted 7 hours i have told them already everything.
customer care is pathetic they always says technical team contact will contact u soon.
whenever they call either call got disconnected or i cant hear .
I had asked even for their technical department numbers they can't share that either.
what should i do sir ? any idea?
i had msged them today also everywhere twitter Instagram facebook email everywhere
 

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they dont know anything they just assuming next update might fix the issue or i have to go to service center again.
already from last 7 days i had wasted 7 hours i have told them already everything.
customer care is pathetic they always says technical team contact will contact u soon.
whenever they call either call got disconnected or i cant hear .
I had asked even for their technical department numbers they can't share that either.
what should i do sir ? any idea?
i had msged them today also everywhere twitter Instagram facebook email everywhere

Try contact them again and wait for the next updates.
We can also try and notify the biggest YouTubers that review phones, if they'll acknowledge the issue, the company will take notice.
 

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A shocking, yet highly effective way to control heating and massively extend battery life is to go to the Battery optimization and totally switch it off. Vivo and several other manufacturers have been struggling with sd8gen1 battery management and have just not understood how to reign it in.
Doing the following has worked wonders for me and I've have made the phone my daily driver again.
 

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    still running android 12 here and no issues with throttling/lagging
    definitely not sluggish (personal appreciation at least)
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    battery is pretty good
    I don't really have the feeling I need to charge often (and usually when I charge, it takes 30 minutes or so)

    what app are you guys using that displays all the battery information like SOT?
    Happy to take some screenshots
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    battery is pretty good
    I don't really have the feeling I need to charge often (and usually when I charge, it takes 30 minutes or so)

    what app are you guys using that displays all the battery information like SOT?
    Happy to take some screenshots
    Go to settings > battery > scroll to the bottom and there is sot and battery life from kasy charging.
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    So, I exchanged the phone for another X80 Pro...I really wanted to give this phone another chance. And so far, it’s…well, a bit of a mixed bag:

    BATTERY LIFE:

    Battery drain isn’t quite as bad, but it still isn’t great. Yesterday I got 3.5h SoT with 40% battery left, but this was with light use (a lot of brief screen-unlocks just to check notifications).

    The screen is the main contributing factor (I’m using 2400x1080; I tried “smart” refresh rate for a couple of days and have now switched to 60Hz to see if it makes a difference), followed by networking: some of this can definitely be attributed to software—both the OS, Google Services with its background BS, and Vivo’s own [lack of] tweaking. Yesterday evening I was offered to update to 12.0.12.7, which I'm guessing focuses more on adquisition of cellular coverage. So far, I've been mostly on WiFi so I can't attest to any differences for the time being.

    But there's definitely a software component to the battery drain and heat associated with networking (either wifi or cellular), because it's very much dependent on the app and use scenario: with YT and Spotify (streaming), there’s no out-of-the-ordinary battery drain or heating, while anything that involves downloading files (Gmaps offline maps, downloading music from Spotify, downloading files from Tresorit, uploading to G.Drive, etc) causes the battery to go down FAST and the phone to get very warm to the touch. When restoring Whatsapp chat backups from G-drive, for instance, even though it was downloading at a very slow rate (it took 2.5h to download 3 Gb, but I’m guessing it’s ‘cause the app is designed to use limited bandwidth for backup restoring), battery drain and heating were both very considerable.

    I’ve disabled “raise to wake” and “tap to wake”, which were enabled on my previous X80 Pro, as I’m assuming they keep certain sensors awake. We’ll see if it makes a difference. Then again, I have all those features on on my P30 Pro and they don’t have enough of an impact on battery drain to warrrant disabling them.

    Looking at screen wakelocks, I found that com.vivo.fingerprint:powerUtils woke up the phone 113 times (keeping it awake for 1m 43s) in the 2h since the last full charge. That’s nearly once very minute…

    I’ve noticed (both on this unit and the one I returned) that with the phone sitting static on a table, the fingerprint unlock icon would randomly appear, waking the screen. And it did so quite often (once every 5-10”), so I’ve disabled “Show fingerprint icon on off screen”. Maybe this is a fingerprint sensor calibration issue (software, because it’s been present on 2 different units), and the fact it doesn’t wake the screen will only solve part of the associated battery drain, since the sensor remains active. If anyone knows of a way to disable this, so that fingerprint sensor only becomes active after hitting the power button and waking the screen, I’d like to give it a try and see if it has any effect on battery life.

    Overall, idle battery drain seems pretty high (I’ll report percentages once I’ve had Battery Guru running for a few more days).

    Based on the above, I get the impression that there’s a bad combo going on between power-hungry hardware and poor software optimization, with Vivo contributing to making Android’s poor power management (compared to Apple’s) even worse.

    Also, not a fan of Vivo’s battery management: it’s either too aggressive to the point of killing notifications and functionality, or completely unrestricted, allowing too much battery drain.

    We’ll see how it fairs over time, but with the 80W fast-charging, I’m willing to accept these battery numbers in exchange for the EXCELLENT camera, and overlook the less-than-ideal FunTouch OS, as long as my next main issue doesn’t become a total deal-breaker:

    OVERHEATING:

    As mentioned before, the heating issue is still there, although, granted, it’s been HOT here: from 35 to 38º C during the day.

    Strangely enough, it heats up more during networking activities than during CPU-intensive tasks such as rendering video. 🤷‍♀️

    But heating could be a deal-breaker for me based on something that happened yesterday. I went for a 1h bike ride and was using Gmaps Navigation for the route (phone locked and in my pocket, following audio guidance via my earbuds) and recording the ride with Relive. After about 1/2h, I took out the phone the take a few pics and it was so HOT the camera app was stuttering heavily. I tried recording a video and the result is as can be imagined. Even the home screen and menu were lagging heavily.

    I’ll have to try again during a night ride when it isn’t so hot, but if this phone is going to heat up to the point of nearly freezing (and surely shortening the battery life), there’s no way I’m going to hold onto it when my trusty old Huawei never had such issues.

    Wireless Android Auto also causes severe heating (in a shaded, cool area of the car), while wired AA doesn’t. I could understand if heavy 5G-use caused battery drain but also WiFi? (AA is known to be buggy, but this isn't an isolated case)

    I’m really starting to wish they’d shipped globally with the Dimensity9000….


    TBH, the only real reason I’m still rooting for this phone is the CAMERA.

    The stills it takes are EXCEPTIONAL—the best photos on any phone I’ve used. Especially now that I’ve spent more time playing with it. It nails high-contrast HDR situations, and night photos (especially city-scapes) are STUNNING. The camera UI could use a little polish though (so many options, often in not-too-intuitive places).

    The video is also very good, even though I find the colours a bit over-saturated and would have like to see a Zeiss colour mode there too. Correcting what I said in my previous, in-depth comment on the camera, it IS possible to change lenses when recording video, but only in 1080p—not in 4K or 8K—and not with AI enhancement turned on.

    Transition from one lense to another is smooth enough when zooming in/out, but as is to be expected, there are very noticeable quality losses at certain focal lengths, between lenses, when digital zoom is being applied:

    • At 0.6X, with the ultra-wide, quality is fantastic for an UW lense. At 0.7X the drop in quality isn’t noticeable, but at 0.8 and 0.9X, the digital zoom on the wide-angle yields grainy, pixelated results.
    • Once it jumps to the main camera, quality is top-notch, and respectable up to about 1.3X (30% digital zoom factor); at 1.4X the footage is still quite (despite the 40% digital zoom factor), but from 1.5X to 1.9X… Quality drops exponentially until it switched to the “portrait lense” at 2X.
    • Quality is still very acceptable up to 3X, gradually decreasing until it switches to the 5X periscope.
    • From 5X to 7X the quality is still very good; from there to the 9Xish mark, it’s still acceptable. But beyond 10X….you can imagine.
    Overall, I’m pleased with the video too. Or would be, if it didn’t heat up so much. With a 1min video at 1080p, 30 fps, cpuss-0 jumped from 49º C to 62º C and the battery reached 44º C. Battery dropped 1%. After letting it cool down again to baseline (during which time it dropped another 1%), I tried a [email protected] 4k60fps, and surprisingly, cpuss-0 “only” reached 56º (maybe the A1+ chip was doing the heavy lifting?), the battery hit 43º C and again, 1% drop in battery level.

    But in the 5’ since then, with the phone idle and screen off, it’s dropped another 4% and is still very warm to the touch. I’m guessing that’s Google photos uploading the videos in the background…but still, that’s a 7% drop in 10’, of which only 3’ were active use…

    So, overall, the main reason I’m holding onto this phone is the camera—which I suspect is the deciding factor for anyone who buys this phone. As a camera, it excels; as a phone—despite the gorgeous display, fantastic ultrasonic fingerprint reader and nice-sounding speakers—it’s, in my experience, a fairly poor package, especially at its 1199€ price point; both from a HW standpoint (CPU & battery life) and a SW one (Not-too-smooth 120Hz implementation, small lags in the OS and certain apps, poor HW optimization, bugs and issues with notifications, etc.). Maybe SW updates will solve some of the issues. Or maybe the SD 8 Gen1 is beyond fixable...
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    By the way, are you guys reporting bugs/things that need improving via the Vivo.com app > Support > Feedback? I think we should really make some noise and submit all of our complaints so that maybe they'll address them

    Very good feedback mate, we need to forward all of this to vivo together and separately.

    Camera is top-notch but the animations bugs, notifications and battery needs a major rework.

    Idle drain is bad unless you're on airplane mode or use the phone all the time, it seems vivo kernel combined with android causing some issues.

    Wish we could have more control on cpu power, likely to reduce it without forcing the phone going to power save mode and have all other effect on.

    Let's forward all of this to vivo via live chat and the feedback app.
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    Just got the X80 Pro SD8G1 version and already got some nice updates as well as optinal updates(They call it Trial updates, though it acts like Beta).

    On the first day, due to all the transferring I've done from mine legendary Mate 40 Pro, it got hot but not scorching hot.

    The camera is SuperB as you've heard and seen thought the reviews, it's extremely versatile and the ISP is fast, yet again it did get hot but ever so slightly, nothing to worry about.

    Battery is being tested so i don't have a conclusion yet, but it should be solid though probably nothing like iPhone 13 Pro Max or the Mate 20 X(best Android battery life EVER).

    Speakers are very good but lacks some bass.

    Overall performance are very solid and the charge speed is fast as hell.

    Now, battery will get a hit over the year with heavy use and i'm unsure how this will unfold, but judging from my past you should not worry about it.

    You'll have a blast with this phone, just wish it was bigger with bigger battery but well...
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    I’m new to the forum (I’ve been loitering for some time but have never posted), but I just bought an X80 Pro (in Spain, so FuntouchOS) and wanted to add my 2 cents / pose a question of my own, as I think I may have gotten a lemon and wanted to ask whether some of the behaviours it’s exhibiting are normal.

    I’d been waiting to upgrade for quite some time and had my mind set on the X70 Pro+, but asking prices were way too high, plus I prefer to buy on Amazon or from a well-established vendor, as I’ve had bad experiences with ebay and Aliexpress in the past. So I decided to hold out until the X80 series. Having watched and read every review out there on the X80 Pro, my mind was 100% made up.

    So, I’ve had it for 3 days and unfortunately, the plan is to return it on Monday and either exchange it for another X80 Pro, or for another phone altogether.

    My main issues are overheating and battery life. Granted, I’m in Spain and it’s summer, but I’m in the Pyrenees, rarely above 28º C, and have my old P30 Pro next to me for reference, which at the same ambient temperature, remains cool. (The X80 Pro heats up at night too, when ambient temperature is 15º C).

    On day 1, I charged the phone to 100% before using it, then started the install/customization process (letting it download apps from the Play Store, signing into my apps, rearranging them on the home screen, etc.). After 1h20min of screen time, my battery was down to 49%.

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    After 3h20” of screen-time, battery was down to 26%.

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    This seemed out-of-the-ordinary, but I figured it was the intensive first-day use. The phone also got pretty toasty. After charging it (that 80W charging is FAST!), battery drain continued at an alarming pace. This stopped (and the phone cooled down) after Whatsapp finished downloading the chat backup. Battery drain with light use seems to be approximately 10% per hour of screen-time (as long as there's not networking activity going on).

    Since then, I’ve noticed a pattern: any kind of network usage (cellular or WiFi) causes the phone to heat up and for battery to drain FAST (as in roughly 20-25%/hour). Downloading offline maps for Gmaps (WiFi, screen off), it became very warm, losing almost 10% battery to download 500 Mb (which took, for some reason, about 10’). The phone is even warm to the touch when idle and with the screen off (while my trusty old P30 Pro is cool to the touch).

    After seeing this, I decided to try a more CPU-instensive task. Applying a filter to an 11’ 1080p video and exporting it in Power Director (same resolution) took 5’ 11” and drained 2 % battery. The phone got warm, but no warmer than when downloading or using the camera (which also causes it to heat up considerably).

    So...battery seems to drain faster with network usage than with CPU-demanding tasks? Weird...

    *Note: none of the testing has ever been done under direct sunlight, always in the shade.

    Yesterday I went for a drive in the woods, using Gaia GPS (which has 3D terrain, so it’s somewhat GPU-intensive) on Android Auto, and the phone heated up so much it refused to charge (I tried both wired and wireless A.Auto). When trying to take photos, the camera app stuttered like crazy (the phone was in the shade and air condition was on). My old P30 Pro has always handled this without even a minor hiccup and has never overheated.


    I get the impression that overall, the chip runs hot, especially for networking, but even under idle (background network activity?). From what I’ve read, the SD 8 Gen 1 runs hot in general and is a bit of a power hog, but…is it really this bad or did I get a lemon? Maybe it’s Vivo’s bad thermals, maybe bad CPU optimization, maybe a not-so-great chip in terms of power efficiency and thermals…maybe just a bad chip (no two chips are identical, of course)…

    Has anyone else experienced something similar?

    I’m an intensive user, but I’m not even getting 3h screen-time (down to 20%; I’d probably get 4h if I drained down to near-empty, which I don’t do to preserve battery). And I haven't even been doing video or photo editing. And so far, draining down to 15%, I’ve never even gotten 4h of screen-on time.

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    Starting the day at 8 AM with 100% charge, by 3 PM I’m down to 20% (with light usage), so there’s no way this phone could get me through a full day, even with light use. And even with the 80W fast charging, what about holidays and days in the countryside? I’m not sure I want a phone that makes me so dependent on having to plug it in to get me through the day. If this is normal for this phone, there’s no way it’s for me.

    So, so far my experience with this phone hasn’t been too great, and I’ll definitely be returning it. What I’m not too sure about, is whether to get another X80 Pro or a different phone. I really want to like this phone and give it another shot but…I’m not sure I’m sold (especially at this price point).

    While the main selling point for me was the camera, I can’t say I’m as impressed as I expected to be. Detail is excellent and colour consistency between the lenses is pretty good, and it IS an amazing camera. But performance is proving rather inconsistent. Sometimes pictures feel a bit flat for my liking (I know this is subjective), as if the HDR were a bit overzealous and eliminated the punch/depth. It’s also a bit hit-and-miss in my experience so far: Snap the same picture twice and in one photo it lights up the shadows just right, so they’re not too dark, but contrast is retained; snap it again and it “lights them up” too much, creating a very flat image, lacking contrast. I guess it depends on what the AI deems appropriate for that specific moment.

    In terms of colour profiles, the standard is way too saturated for my liking (Samsung-style), which I didn’t expect. And the Zeiss natural colour mode…is a bit hit and miss. Sometimes it’s spot-on, other times it’s a bit dull and flat and I find myself wishing for a more balanced middle ground. Although this is very dependent, from what I’m finding, on which lense you use:

    Main camera, “Vivo colour”:

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    Punchy, attractive image if you like this style, with red tones actually very true-to-life but green tones fairly over-saturated for my liking.

    Main camera, Zeiss colour:

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    True-to-life greens, reds are a bit muted (the building to the left is red stone, with a few grey stones here and there, but it appears much less red in this photo than it actually is).

    Ultra-wide, Vivo colour:

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    As before, very punchy and vibrant. Greens are more saturated than in real life, reds are spot-on.

    Ultra-wide, Zeiss:

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    Strange balance here. The green on the trees is more life-like, but the different tones of green (lighter leaves/darker leaves) are lost to this snapshot. The green of the grass is muted, with a more reddish tint; in real life it appears greener. The red building appears less red than in real life, yet it’s given a red tint to the shaded part of the building behind it, which is actually grey.

    2X zoom, Vivo:

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    The colour is actually fairly accurate here: a bit more over-saturated than in real-life, but pleasing to my eyes. Which proves my theory that colours are more muted on the 2X tele.

    2X zoom, Zeiss:

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    Also visually pleasing, IMO, even if the colours, overall, are a bit muted compared to real life, particularly on the grass.

    5X zoom, Vivo:

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    Colours are way off. Greens are very oversaturated, the house’s stone wall has a very unnatural, over-sharpened, too-contrasy look and the roof tiles have an odd orange tone to them (they’re redder in real life).

    5X zoom, Zeiss:

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    Much more natural greens, but muted reds (the wall looks too grey, especially in the shadowy part) and again, a more orange tint to the roof.

    But of course, much of this is down to personal preference and I realise I’m nitpicking. I just thought I’d post this for reference. This phone has an impressive camera setup which I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend. For stills, that is.

    The video…I’ve found myself fairly disappointed with. The colour profile is WAY TOO saturated for my liking, and there’s no option (that I’ve been able to find) to switch to the Zeiss colour profile. Stabilization is good, except for a little jittering when panning. The gimbal on the 2X zooms works wonders, but I really find myself wishing it were on the main camera or the ultra-wide instead of the tele. I really can’t think of any cases where I’d want a gimbal on a 2X tele for video (a gimbal is meant for video use), and for stills, normal OIS would have been sufficient, and the gimbal could have been used for video on a lense people might use while walking around (which is rarely, to not say never, going to be using a 2X zoom factor).

    My main gripe, though, is the inability to switch lenses during video recording. If you start recording with the ultra-wide, you’re stuck with the ultra wide—there’s no option to zoom at all. If you start recording with the main camera, you’re offered the possibility of zooming in up to 5X, but this is digital zoom. Beyond 2X, it starts to get grainy, and beyond 3X the footage is, IMO, unusable. If you start recording at 2X, it’s also the main camera (with 2X digital zoom); it will let you zoom out to 1X, or zoom in all the way to 10X, which is pointless because past 3.5X, the footage looks like something recorded on a digital point-and-shoot from 20 years ago.

    The cinematic mode…honestly, is very aesthetically pleasing, but nothing that can’t be done in post, and not nearly as useful as being able to switch lenses during recording—so, IMO, more of a gimmick than a truly useful feature. I didn’t realise how important being able to switch lenses while recording was to me on my P30 Pro (even if the colour profile differed greatly from one lense to another) until I found myself trying to record my dog on the X80 Pro, seeing how much the image quality degrades when zooming in, and missing the possibility of switching to ultra-wide when he sits in front of me to give me the stick I’ve thrown for him. It just makes the camera so much less versatile for video—it’s such a waste to not take advantage of such high-quality hardware.

    This missing feature might be enough to sway me towards returning the Vivo altogether. I actually think I’d prefer an S22 Ultra, even if its photos can’t compete with the Vivo’s, for its versatility in this sense—I get a feeling that even if it doesn’t excel at any one thing (except zoom, of course), it’s a more balanced overall package. But after ordering and returning an S20 and an S21+ and being very disappointed by the lackluster Exynos performance (stuttering video, very slow to export video, bad battery life), I’ve sworn I won’t buy another Samsung that packs an Exynos chip in it.

    So back to the Vivo…as I write this, I’m realizing this phone might not be for me. I could maybe overlook the missing video features, but the battery life is a bit of a deal-breaker. Even if I could get 6h of screen time…that’s with a brand-new phone. My P30 Pro is 3 years old and outlasts by a mile, still getting more than 7h screen-time. I don’t even want to know how the X80 Pro will perform in a year or two…

    What do you guys think?

    On the other hand, even if I could overlook that, for 1199€, I’d expect a flagship experience and level of polish which the Vivo certainly does not have. A first update solved the inconsistencies in the dark mode (black text on a black background), but overall, the notifications issue is something that shouldn’t happen on a phone this price. I don’t get notifications from Protonmail or Signal, or the Mercedes Me app, and I’m a power user who’s gone through all the settings (allow background usage, unrestricted power usage, notifications, etc.).

    So…after writing this…as much as I like the Vivo for stills, and as much as I’d like to love it,
    I think I’m going to return it. And as things are, I don’t think there’s anything on the market that meets what I’m looking for. I think the SD 8 Gen 1 is too power-hungry a chip, and a SD 888 or 8+ Gen 1 would probably be better choices. Maybe I’ll get a previous-gen phone or just wait for new phones packing the 8+ Gen 1, which seems to be more power-efficient (by 30%).

    So I think I’ve answered my own question and will stick with the P30 Pro for now—even with the failing microphone and fingerprint reader. It still performs as well as the day I bought it and if I’m going to spend this kind of money on something new, I want it to really meet my needs (battery, camera, UI & polish, reliability—and storage: I think 512 Gb of storage would be the wiser, more future-proof option). And further down the road…we’ll see. I just don’t feel like being the guinea pig for companies that keep pumping out phones like this, using consumers as beta-testers for unpolished products (I’m not refering to any brand in particular; they all do the same…).

    Or does anyone who owns it think I'm being too harsh and should give it a second chance? (Another unit). Do you think I can get at least 6h of screen-time on a different (non-faulty) unit? Do you think Vivo might polish the UI and fix the missing notification issue? (I can't say I like the notification style either though).

    Anyway, sorry to all for the rant, but I hope that in exchange I provided some information that’s useful for you.

    That's a comprehensive report on the device, thank you for that.
    I myself coming from the mighty Mate 20 X and Mate 40 Pro and i have to say that there is NO Huawei replacement phone, not truly, they are legendary in all the possible ways, specially camera and battery life.
    About your X80 Pro, i think you got a lemon as the battery life are way poorer than it should be.
    While the battery life are not impressive at all( SD8GEN1 is the main culprit), you should be getting at least 3.5 to 4hr sot while remaining around the 50% mark.

    Now, I believe there is a problem with network optimization, I've read the notes of the latest beta update, and they further optimized the network compatibility.

    It would be helpful if you can submit your problems to vivo via live chat or the feedback program.
    This phone has the biggest potential to be the best on all terms, it is letdown by software, but it should be fixable.
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    The 12s Ultra is just hype. Not more.
    Check out tests on Youtube. The camera cannot keep up because the software from Xiaomi is poorly optimized. In addition, Vivo has its own chip for processing images. I have no regrets and am very happy with the Vivo.