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drizzl

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I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.

I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?
 

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Short Answer..

I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.

I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?

Builder's Choice... :cool:
Either External Storage can be Formatted as Internal Storage or it can not.. you would see the option under "Format".
 

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I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.

I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?

I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
 
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On A Stock Device ? :cool:
I'd like to know how you've accomplished that feat as well.. ;)

Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..
 

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Really...?

Why is everone hell bent on this one?
Just go in settings>memory & storage>change default location to memory card..
Am i missing something?
Everything from this point goes into memory card..
This isnt rocket science..

You're Joking Right ? :cool:

We've all seen that.

You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.

Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.

Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.

Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
 

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You're Joking Right ? :cool:

We've all seen that.

You inferred one could.. (As The Original Poster Drizzi Stated..) "MERGE" Internal & External Storage.

Otherwise known as: "Formatting Your External Card As Internal Storeage.

Which... (Again to use Drizzi's term because it's correct) would Merge and create *One* Gigantic Drive.

Not simply chosing Internal or External... :victory:
Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..

Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..

Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
 
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To Conclude...

I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?

Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..

Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..

Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid.. :cool:
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.

The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..

If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive.. ;)

Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. :D ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel:) whatever..

That's what makes that option an inviting one.. :cool:
 

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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid.. :cool:
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.

The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..

If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive.. ;)

Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. :D ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel:) whatever..

That's what makes that option an inviting one.. :cool:


How did you get the option to format as internal? I only have Eject and Format as options.
 

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I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid.. :cool:
As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.

The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..

If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive.. ;)

Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. :D ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel:) whatever..

That's what makes that option an inviting one.. :cool:

This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).

So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).

Just my point of view ...
 
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I'll Step Aside..

I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,
I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive.

If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive.. ;)

This technique is called adopted storage and is an AOSP feature since 7.0. I tried it also in my prior phone, but I would not recommend it any longer, even though it looks promising on the first sight. Unfortunately there are drawbacks:
- The technique behind is a daemon, that scans the internal storage and relocates larger file to the external card. You do not have any control which file gets relocated when. Nevertheless it is a transparent process.
- Since the data get copied asynchronously, copying large files to the device requires at least free space in the internal memory of the size of the largest new file. In case you are dealing with a number of video files, there might easily raise a storage size error message during copy even though your system tells you, that there should be enough memory available.
- The SDCard has to be prepared, which means, it has to get formatted in an encrypted way. Encrypted SDCards are the second best option out of a selection of two ... if you have an issue with it by whatever reason, there is no way to recover the data e.g. via a PC.
- If you have an issue with the card by whatever reason (occurs more often than you would expect, expecially when you are more often on low battery than expected) and since you have no control which data is located on that storage, you will have an unclear amount of corrupt data ... even if your "internal" storage (which is part of the bundle) may lead to some running apps, in worst case your available data is completely ruined.
- It requires newer custom recovery (AFAIK TWRP >= 3.1.x) to decrypt adopted storage.
- Last but not least: Even if you have an SD card with really fast read and write speed (usually known as U3), the real access speed (usually read speed) depends on several other facts like the HW interface to the sd card. In general it is much slower than access to the internal memory which I can confirm (e.g. by speed test apps).

So why would you want such an instable and performance impacting technology? On low-end phones with very little memory probably it would make sense, but the 7X has enough memory in any delivered option, regardles whether you take the smallest or the largest available sizing. In general it is a smartphone and not a NAS system in your pocket. So there is usually no need for the whole world in offline maps accompanied by 200k audiobooks and a dump of the whole music data from your preferred streaming service (even though it would be incredible cool).

Just my point of view ...
I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject... :cool:
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:
 

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I'm Eh... Going To Step Aside On This Subject... :cool:
I'll let you 2 discuss the Finer Points.. Pros vs Cons etc... Enjoy. :angel:

:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good::)
 

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Final Answer...

:crying:Why? I'd prefer more standpoints on it than just one or two, because it will give arguments about aspects, that are of interest for someone else. :good::)
Well Let's See... :cool:

Point 1) OP question was answered with a viable solution by Sid21.

Point 2) OP specific question was answered "Directly" by Raiderwill.

Point 3) Discussing the merits of Adopt Storage further based on how "You" personally feel about it for me, is pointless.

Point 4) I'm sure there are threads here on XDA that you can search out to continue why your point of view is relevant.

Point 5) I'm sure if the OP wants to continue a private discussion with you he knows how to contact you.

Well.. that's pretty much all "I" have to say about Adoptive Storage.

Now... if you want to start a thread about why you think Huawei is giving you false promises in regards to the EMUI 8.0 / OREO 8.0 / FACIAL RECOGNITION UNLOCK and PROJECT TREBLE updates... I'll be more than happy to indulge in your thread in regards to that conversation.. :cool:

Because quite frankly... I disagree with you 100% in regards to the updates and in regards to rooting the 7X now.. it makes ZERO sense... and even you had to fork over money to fix your phone.. because Rooting got you in a hole...

Now, By All Means.. start a thread and let's discuss that. :cool:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
 

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Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up
 

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Please Clarify..

Hi there i am a honor 7x user the issue here is very critical suppose i am deleting a file of from my internal storage the file gets deleted but i dnt get the free space back like the internal storage is not being cleaned up

Sir.. Are You Saying You've Deleted System Files To Make More Space? :cool:

I hope this is not the case.

I hope.. you mean you deleted "Applications" and expected to get more space in return..

It's proportionately based... By that I mean, lets say you had a game installed that was 1.00 GB in size.. and you had 20 GB free.

If you uninstalled that 1.00 GB game.... you would now have 21 GB free.. :cool:

Just in case you meant to say "RAM" and why have you not freed up more of it... People make the classic mistake thinking if they reomove every conceivable app from their device they are going to free up more RAM.. :D

Not The Case.

RAM management will simply load something else into that allotted space...:cool:

Anyway (I digress) if you are still running stock (hopefully) all you have to do is preform a Factory Reset..:good: and you are right back where you started from.

If you are out of space.. I believe this device supports OTG.
 

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    I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage, or at the very least be able to move apps to the card, but EMUI doesn't want to allow me to. I've already set it as my default storage, but that doesn't much help my situation since none of the apps actually go there.

    I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?

    I have set my card as internal storage and since then all my apps and data goes in the that card but older apps installed pre card insertion wont obviously.
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    To Conclude...

    I've got an external microSD card that I'd like to use as internal storage,I know older versions of android had a function to merge the SD card into internal storage so that it seemed like one big drive. Anyone know if you can do that on the Honor?

    Ohh merging and using as one drive? Thats weird..
    He just wants his apps to move into sd card or use memory card as the only source for every data storage..

    Secondly why would anyone even want to use phone storage instead of memory card? Or even merge? Thats weird.. And i never saw any phone doing that ever in my life.. Samsung which gives transition the best to shift data from phone to storage also doesnt merge or use it as a whole.. Its either of them always..

    Like i said earlier.. Theres no way to shift all the apps installed and data onto the memory card on honor 7x (only samsung can do that seamlessly) .. Since it was written on phone when it was the main storage at that time..
    But when storage changed to memory card any new data will only be written on a memory card.. To free mobile storage.. Simply uninstall them and re install again to get it written on memory card this time..
    I Pulled His Quote In As Well Sid.. :cool:
    As you can see my friend... He inquired about the "Old Fashioned Way" of doing it... Formatting External as Internal.
    I understand you may not have seen this before.. so I am including a pic (see below) so you can see what it would look like in a settings menu that had this option.

    The reason why one would want this option? Basically because of just what you said..
    Only certain things will tranfer / store on the External drive..

    If you format the External as "Internal" Now 100% of your content will store there.. because, it's one HUGE drive.. ;)

    Think of it.. if you have a FAST SD-Card with 256 or even 128 gigs of storage.. you can Merge that with your 32 / 64 gigs of internal.. have no visible slowdown in performance by the naked eye.. (read/write scores may drop some if you care about such things.. :D ) and you have all.... this space... for movies , pics , ( porn.. :angel:) whatever..

    That's what makes that option an inviting one.. :cool:
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