External sdcard woes

saldawop

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Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.

When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.

PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.

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Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.

When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.

PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.

Sent from my GT-N8010 using xda app-developers app

solution might be here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
 
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saldawop

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Thanks, for some reason that works for my videos, but not with photos and music!!!!
And that is more of a workaround than a solution. Ideally I would like for it to work as it should. Impossible for me to go back to stock as I will always need root to vieww my media(ok, I will probably always be rooted, but I want the option)

Edit: tried again and my music and photos are now showing (using Directory Bind)

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Ive had issues like this on my EVO. Try installing a "media scan" app from the market. It rescans all media content on the phone and then if you want you can remove the app after its done. I had 2 years worth of photos on my 16GB SD class 10 and no pictures or video thumbnails / pictures at all would show. Ran the app and fixed all the issues.
 

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I did try a couple of those apps yesterday.I dont know if either one worked.I mean I know nothing showed up, but it was as though they never actually run.
 

HTCfreak!

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Same issue

:crying:

I tried formatting several times and copied the data back, nothing helped. Also copying files from my comp to the sd card and internal storage in the phone is very slow. I bought the device yesterday, its stock unrooted.
 
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I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.

So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )

- Frank
 

HTCfreak!

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I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.

So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )

- Frank


I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
 

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I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.

Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?

Daniel
 

HTCfreak!

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It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.

Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?

Daniel
Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
 

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I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
Also on top of that, when you formatted the SDCard did you format in the PC or in your phone through recovery? You will want to format through recovery.

I would recommend upgrading to an ext partition and then formatting again (if you don't need the ext). I have found that even formatting the SDCard on some roms (because the way they work) it doesn't wipe everything and upgrading the to ext actually changes the file system of the SDCard rather than a quick format. Then only copy your media back to the card. Dont copy everything like .android, data, and stuff like that. Just what you want to keep.
 

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Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
Is there any chance you have a counterfeit Sandisk card? Did you buy it from an authorized dealer? If buying from Amazon make sure you only purchase directly from amazon, LLC and not a third party vendor.

For reference which sandisk card do you have what class is it rated at?

Daniel
 

HTCfreak!

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No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.:confused:

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I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory :(
 
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If your internal memory is slow I would consider that cause for concern. Perhaps try running benchmarks and comparing your results to those in the benchmark thread. It may be worth returning it for another phone if you can't find a solution soon.
 

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No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.:confused:

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Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory :(
you might have to reinstall your rom
 

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Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
 

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Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
 

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Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?

I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.

I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.
 

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Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
For whatever reason I don't think Samsung enabled USB mass storage mode on either the S3 or the Note 2. It's the one thing that's holding me back from buying one at the moment because I use iTunes Agent to sync with iTunes, and that requires the device to be in mass storage mode when connected to the pc (or you can take the sd card out and put it in a reader, but I don't like to take the back off too many times as most phones end up getting really creaky). It's a real shame because I'm just itching to get one.

Have a look in the GS3 forum - I think there's a thread where someone has created an app that enables you to toggle USB mass storage mode, but I think you might have to be rooted and have a custom kernel. Don't quote me, that's from memory ;)

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Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?

I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.

I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.

There are a couple of threads about this I think now. I browsed some last night. Sorry, I'm only on my phone at the moment so it's a bit awkward to try and find a link for you (what with having a Sensation with only a 4.3" screen ;) They'll be on the first page or two I think.

My girlfriend's original Note had a similar problem with photos and media after connecting an external hard drive. Going into settings/apps and clearing data on the media storage app followed by a reboot sorted the problem for her.
 
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