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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
What was Google thinking?! As if our networks are 100% reliable?! In the UK they 'frequently' go down and most customers have no service (and no compensation) whilst a proportion switch between 5g and 4g and can go about life as normal'ish.

Google have dug their own hole here. I'm sure that my carrier will eventually realise the error of there ways (drowning in CS calls when they have an outage) but right now, I have a S21U that doesn't have this issue. I'm just hoping this isn't an Android 12 'feature'!!!

I don't want to go 'back' to Samsung but for me this Pixel is a total anti-climax... bit like the S21 was compared to S20. Had hoped the 'Samsung modem' that was being posted about in the Pixel 6 was the S20 generation one - I suspect it's not and it's the S21 one instead.

I thought my S21U had a fault with connectivity but today going out with my Pixel 6 I was without connection for 30 minutes whilst with my S21U in the same route it's more like 15 minutes without 'service' (5G bars present but not working).
 
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Seriously no idea what you're on about with this apparent blinding light in the thumb reader
Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
 
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
Argh, you mentionned it... yes, yes, yes!

Although face unlock isn't very secure on android, they should have given it as a option with warnings like Samsung do.
 
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
Exaggerating but not vastly. It's not a good user experience. Maybe I have a superbright screen or something, but it's not good IMHO. Ultrasonic 'feels' much 'nicer'.
 

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I'd agree that my S21U has a much better display and feels premium compared to my P6P. The hollow sounding display doesn't help either on the P6P. OneUI however drives me insane and the s21U was just too heavy, it's nice not feeling like there's a brick in my pocket. Anyway, I've got a buyer for my S21U and will use the P6P now until next year. Let's see what next year brings us in phones.
 
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One of the first setup screens is yes to the flipping right or left? Google Services screen, the selection switches are hard to select and dark grey to the right (off?) and light gray to the left (on?). What are they smoking. Why not, you know, have the setting say if it is enabled or not? I hate dark color schemes. Multi Million dollar data centers and you can't read the HMI screens because someone gets off on the dark theme???
 
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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.
It may have to do with variable display rates. Try at different frequencies. LED ambient lighting may screw it the up too.
The color rendering specs for the N10+ display exceed the S21U, so there may be a tradeoff for variable frequency and/or increased maximum brightness.
 
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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
None of my OnePlus do. Power on the right, volume on the left...
 
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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
So for AT&T users, they are screwed then since the Google thought photo gimmicks were more important than top performing modem. Good to know and sympathies for AT&T users who were expecting something great from Google, instead just getting a gimmick phone.

Translator, photo gimmicks and gaming. But slowest CPU, crappg modem, worst in class display. Awesome. Google priorities, treating their customers as beta testers for their software gimmicks once again rather than give them the phone everyone wants.
 
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In the UK on EE and the option to change the network type is not there. This is a setting the carrier can decide to hide or show, and it seems some operators are of the opinion they don't want us deciding how we should use our phones. It wouldn't be quite so bad if my Pixel 6 Pro was from the carrier, but I bought it myself, so I should be allowed to choose how I use it.

5G is patchy (at this time and probably for years), I don't need my phone constantly moving up from 4G to 5G then back down again when I'm going on a trip anywhere, especially when I'm driving and so not using my phone. Also it doesn't just connect to 5G as it would still be maintaining a connection to 4G to receive calls, so battery drain is crazy for no benefit. So restricting to just 4G only makes sense. I guess the mobile phone companies are just desperate to hand people off to their 5G infrastructure to make use of it, hence the no choice, despite it clearly not always in the customers best interest.

Google gets black marks for allowing them to customise (and remove) these options.
 

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    Is anyone having signal problems, I thought I'd fixed it but i didn't. I turned off adaptive network and battery,worked better for 10 minutes then dropped again. 4G in my house is solid on all previous phones but what I've noticed today is the signal goes to full if I take my hand away from bottom of the phone. Like my hand is blocking signal cos as soon as I put my hand back it drops again 🙄 reminds me of an old iPhone that has similar issue years ago. It isn't affecting speeds or connection but with a low signal I worry about battery life. Battery life has been great so far and signal seems better when I'm out and about. But at home is worse than all previous phones I've had
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    I am done with the Pixel 6 Pro. It's going back next week.

    I just took a bunch of night shots at a restaurant and outside with the P6P and also with an iPhone 13 Pro. Looking at the photos on my 85" TV the differences are striking. The iPhone images are much sharper and much more detailed and consistent. The Pixel has a slightly better white balance, but you can change that easily on the iPhone or post, and it's really not much of a difference.

    I personally find a lot of the Pixel's daytime photos to be substandard, with HDR so strong that it makes them look weird, as well as over-sharpened. The only area the Pixel wins is the zoom, but I can live without it.

    Add to this the finicky FPS and the old 5G modem, and the considerably shorter battery life, and the couple of hundred in savings compared to the iPhone is just not worth it to me.

    I don't think software tweaks are going to bring this phone up to standard. Too bad, I really had high hopes.
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    Since there was some back and forth here about the Pixel's 5G modem, here is a comparison to the newer Q modem of the Galaxy 21U:

    "

    Conclusion: Qualcomm Beats Samsung​

    The numbers are the numbers, and the numbers say—for now—that the Google Pixel 6 Pro's modem-RF system aren't quite up to the standards of the latest Qualcomm products.

    What that means for you is that in urban areas, the Pixel 6 Pro on the T-Mobile and Verizon networks won't have quite the level of performance of the iPhone 13 or Samsung Galaxy S21 line (much less the upcoming Galaxy S22). You'll see data connections struggle in weak signal spots of cities. The jury's still out in rural areas, given the two different sets of results we got. "


    It would also explain the battery drain.
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    I'm starting to feel like this thread is more a Reddit thing than a developer site thing..
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    So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
    1. Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
    2. Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
    3. The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
    4. So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
    5. The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
    6. Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
    7. VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
    8. Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++

    I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.

    It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.

    Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
    I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points

    1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
    2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
    3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
    4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
    5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.
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    my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.
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    Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.

    You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.

    Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.

    Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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    First impressions of this post - not great.
    The Samsung lover is strong in this one.
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    Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
    Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.