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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
What was Google thinking?! As if our networks are 100% reliable?! In the UK they 'frequently' go down and most customers have no service (and no compensation) whilst a proportion switch between 5g and 4g and can go about life as normal'ish.

Google have dug their own hole here. I'm sure that my carrier will eventually realise the error of there ways (drowning in CS calls when they have an outage) but right now, I have a S21U that doesn't have this issue. I'm just hoping this isn't an Android 12 'feature'!!!

I don't want to go 'back' to Samsung but for me this Pixel is a total anti-climax... bit like the S21 was compared to S20. Had hoped the 'Samsung modem' that was being posted about in the Pixel 6 was the S20 generation one - I suspect it's not and it's the S21 one instead.

I thought my S21U had a fault with connectivity but today going out with my Pixel 6 I was without connection for 30 minutes whilst with my S21U in the same route it's more like 15 minutes without 'service' (5G bars present but not working).
 
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Seriously no idea what you're on about with this apparent blinding light in the thumb reader
Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
 
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
Argh, you mentionned it... yes, yes, yes!

Although face unlock isn't very secure on android, they should have given it as a option with warnings like Samsung do.
 
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
Exaggerating but not vastly. It's not a good user experience. Maybe I have a superbright screen or something, but it's not good IMHO. Ultrasonic 'feels' much 'nicer'.
 

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I'd agree that my S21U has a much better display and feels premium compared to my P6P. The hollow sounding display doesn't help either on the P6P. OneUI however drives me insane and the s21U was just too heavy, it's nice not feeling like there's a brick in my pocket. Anyway, I've got a buyer for my S21U and will use the P6P now until next year. Let's see what next year brings us in phones.
 
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One of the first setup screens is yes to the flipping right or left? Google Services screen, the selection switches are hard to select and dark grey to the right (off?) and light gray to the left (on?). What are they smoking. Why not, you know, have the setting say if it is enabled or not? I hate dark color schemes. Multi Million dollar data centers and you can't read the HMI screens because someone gets off on the dark theme???
 
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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.
It may have to do with variable display rates. Try at different frequencies. LED ambient lighting may screw it the up too.
The color rendering specs for the N10+ display exceed the S21U, so there may be a tradeoff for variable frequency and/or increased maximum brightness.
 
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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
None of my OnePlus do. Power on the right, volume on the left...
 
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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
So for AT&T users, they are screwed then since the Google thought photo gimmicks were more important than top performing modem. Good to know and sympathies for AT&T users who were expecting something great from Google, instead just getting a gimmick phone.

Translator, photo gimmicks and gaming. But slowest CPU, crappg modem, worst in class display. Awesome. Google priorities, treating their customers as beta testers for their software gimmicks once again rather than give them the phone everyone wants.
 
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In the UK on EE and the option to change the network type is not there. This is a setting the carrier can decide to hide or show, and it seems some operators are of the opinion they don't want us deciding how we should use our phones. It wouldn't be quite so bad if my Pixel 6 Pro was from the carrier, but I bought it myself, so I should be allowed to choose how I use it.

5G is patchy (at this time and probably for years), I don't need my phone constantly moving up from 4G to 5G then back down again when I'm going on a trip anywhere, especially when I'm driving and so not using my phone. Also it doesn't just connect to 5G as it would still be maintaining a connection to 4G to receive calls, so battery drain is crazy for no benefit. So restricting to just 4G only makes sense. I guess the mobile phone companies are just desperate to hand people off to their 5G infrastructure to make use of it, hence the no choice, despite it clearly not always in the customers best interest.

Google gets black marks for allowing them to customise (and remove) these options.
 

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    Both, my husband and I, we switched from 2XL and even though it is a big, literally, change, the qualitywise it's also amazing. Apart from the curved screen, which is really annoying, we have already got used to everything. The screen quality, the battery life, connectivity, speed, picture quality - everything is better. Of course if I would switch from the previous top Samsung or Apple, I may not be as excited. I do not know that though. And we used to own Samsung S, after year and a half were not usable at all, our pixels 2xl were as good as at the beginning. Some people here are changing their phones every few months, I can imagine they are not as happy as we are. I do not think though I would ever go back to the Samsung's bloatware (it's important to state that we have never modified anything, never rooted, always used the way the manufacturer wanted). For me pixels are perfect.
    To be honest here - I don't understand people that switch from one flagship to another (same generation). I usually change my phones every 2 years and then my family gets my old one. People from a OnePlus 9 Pro or a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra... you already have a decent flagship, you seriously cashing out another grand to experience a phone that might make this 10% better, and that 10% worse? And then go boomsh*t crazy if this Pixel phone does things differently - like placing the power button somewhere else? Seriously? You want another phone and another experience, and THEN COMPLAIN BECAUSE ITS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT?

    In the end it's the same generation, similar processor nodes, similar battery technology and sizes - there is nothing here that could re-invent the wheel. Sure, sure, Google has some neat AI tricks, but most of those are software locked to get people to buy their latest Pixels - just take the Magic Erazer as an example - that one is functioning mighty fine on previous pixels with APK sideloading.

    Some people change their phones like their underwear. Just take the Oneplus 9 Pro for example. It's barely out half a year, and people already feel the need to switch. Now, does say more about the user or the phone?

    Why, that's beyond me. Some people already have good phones (those mentioned in this forum, by the way, cost much more than the P6 Pro - always keep that in mind when comparing; 13 Max starts at 1249 €, S21 Ultra at 1200 € - that's compared to 899 € 28 % & 25 % price difference! - and that gap increases once we raise storage, Apple for example wants more than 100 € for 128 GB more storage) and expect this phone to do a 180° and do everything better, in a magnificient way. Not sure if their sense of reality is the problem, or Googles marketing is just beyond good and evil.

    Either way, just don't.
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    I was prepared to find a problem with my p6p but I am good so far. Display, battery, battery life, speakers are all excellent for me. No problems. I'm staying away from the forums and forming my own opinions. If you buy something new then read about everyone else's problems with what you just bought, it won't go well for you.
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    a) it feels like there is a bubble/hole underneath the middle of the screen, when you tap there, the sound is different than when you tap at the edges
    That's well known and discussed, it's a "design choice" of every phone that has it's display attached to the edge of the chassie, you will find that (for example) in every other IPhone 13 aswell.
    b) fingerprint is not so fast, sometimes misses ... although I have same finger registered 3 times ...
    Did you re-do the fingerprints after the most recent update? (.036). The setup changed quite a bit and it's more reliable now (most phones were shipped out with pre-release versions, most differing from .015 to .019).
    d) power button on right side ... a change for me ... will get used to it ... I reckon it does make sense though, I use a flip-case ... then the power button is on the opening side of the flip case ...
    There's actually a wonderful way to shoot photos. You double-press the power button with one hand (that automatically opens the camera) and then switch a couple centimeters and shot a photo with a press on the volume rocker. It's the way I've been shooting photos ever since owning the Pixel 2 XL and I definitely do not want Google to change that location. It enables me to shoot a photo after getting my phone out of my pocket in less than three seconds.
    e) what is most annoying with my current setup is that the swipe gestures (home, back) somehow interfere with the gestures from Nova Launcher ... I haven't figured it out yet precisely ... the standard gestures are clearly handled by the Google launcher (for fact because when I freeze the Google launcher the gestures no longer work)
    Jea, that's also well known. Google doesn't give a flying fu*k about custom launchers.
    f) material you is a f***ing gimmick, well done Google for fantastic marketing hype ... some of it is also handled by the Google launcher (I would have thought the OS) ... a mixture of material you icons for Google apps and other (standard) icons for non-Google apps is just *UGLY* ... what I don't understand is this: this phone can do fantastic AI things ... then why the hell could it not do a (simple) task (with some AI support) to turn ALL icons into the same style ... come on ... that can't be too difficult ... even when using these wallpaper matched icons then the icons in the drawer are old style ... I really dislike these UI inconsistencies ... so I ended up using Nova with all custom icons (at least they now all share the same "design")
    Totally agree here. Android 12 is terrible. An oversized, uni-color, inconsistent mess. Should never have been released in the first place.
    g) so slippery that I barely dared to take it in my hand ;-) ... lot of people have complained ... again, what I don't understand is that these Google engineers/designers do not feel this (apparently) when they make prototypes ... it's so obvious ... or maybe Google just wants to financially support phone case manufacturers
    Well to be fair, many customers these days expect shiny backsides, aka glass. And glass gets slippery. That's no excuse though for Google using a NOT matt finish, this glossy version is just slippery as heck - agree here.
    h) VoLTE does not work on my carrier (it worked out of the box on the OnePlus 8 Pro), I guess it is missing some config? not clear to me if this is "fixable" ... it's not a very big deal ... but still
    Best just contact your carrier. Or reset your phone and start it without a simcard (so the carrier stuff doesn't get downloaded automatically at setup). I never had such an issue, but considering that many here talk about it...
    So ... after 2 days ... Google's first "flagship"? Hmm ... the camera is very good (I'm not an expert to judge foto details) ... and the AI (speech recognition, live translation) is state-of-the-art for this type of device ... but ... all of that is not differentiating enough (for me) to really make the phone "stand out" and give it a big leap ahead of the competition ...
    Well to be fair, noone with the right mind expected Google to create a phone that stands out and gives it a big leap ahead of the competition. First and foremost, the competition is more expensive. Secondly, this phone is build on the same processor nodes, battery technology and similar Kernel/ROM like any other. It's not about re-inventing the wheel (if Google tricked you here with their marketing, I feel sorry for you), it's just about giving the best possible Pixel experience, compared to previous generations. Google never really cared about other manufacturers - they try to go the Apple way: I do it this way, and that's fine, because only I set my goals (in my opinion that's stupid and has hindered the Pixel franchise for years, but I'm not the Google manager making the big decisions).

    Google Pixels have always just been some clean Software experience phones, and the Pixel 6 just added decent hardware on top of it - it's not the best hardware out there, just a decent one for a Flagship.

    As far as I know, no reviewer with the right mind claimed otherwise.
    So when the Google guy announced it as "our first flagship" he probably meant: finally, our engineers are up to par with the Apples/Samsungs/OnePlus of this world ...
    No, he literally meant "our first flagship". The Pixel 1-5 were higher midtear phones with good software, no flagship there. They had always cut alot of corners.
    Anyway, it's only the second day ... need to learn to loive it a little bit ...
    I'm pretty sure that you will come around. Usually Pixel phones just work beautifully. It's just a shame that the current release of Android 12 is a buggy mess, it takes a lot of joy away from the beautiful Pixel experience.

    Shame on Google for that one...
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    Fingerprint sensor was driving me nuts. I was pressing it to hard. A lighter touch does the trick. Works every time now.
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    Well ... it's only my second day with the P6P ... I always held off buying Pixels because they officially were not availaible in my country and because the reviews always came up with some things that I thought I would not like.

    After several OnePlus generations the hype around P6P made me turn round and order one (coming from a OnePlus 8 Pro - fantastic phone by the way, easily customizable with root).

    My "after-2-days" complaints (of course comparing a lof with the OnePlus 8 Pro).

    a) it feels like there is a bubble/hole underneath the middle of the screen, when you tap there, the sound is different than when you tap at the edges

    b) fingerprint is not so fast, sometimes misses ... although I have same finger registered 3 times ...

    c) I really hate the little white navbar line at the bottom (even when using Nova Launcher) and the fact that there is no option to hide this

    d) power button on right side ... a change for me ... will get used to it ... I reckon it does make sense though, I use a flip-case ... then the power button is on the opening side of the flip case ...

    e) what is most annoying with my current setup is that the swipe gestures (home, back) somehow interfere with the gestures from Nova Launcher ... I haven't figured it out yet precisely ... the standard gestures are clearly handled by the Google launcher (for fact because when I freeze the Google launcher the gestures no longer work) ...

    f) material you is a f***ing gimmick, well done Google for fantastic marketing hype ... some of it is also handled by the Google launcher (I would have thought the OS) ... a mixture of material you icons for Google apps and other (standard) icons for non-Google apps is just *UGLY* ... what I don't understand is this: this phone can do fantastic AI things ... then why the hell could it not do a (simple) task (with some AI support) to turn ALL icons into the same style ... come on ... that can't be too difficult ... even when using these wallpaper matched icons then the icons in the drawer are old style ... I really dislike these UI inconsistencies ... so I ended up using Nova with all custom icons (at least they now all share the same "design")

    g) so slippery that I barely dared to take it in my hand ;-) ... lot of people have complained ... again, what I don't understand is that these Google engineers/designers do not feel this (apparently) when they make prototypes ... it's so obvious ... or maybe Google just wants to financially support phone case manufacturers

    h) VoLTE does not work on my carrier (it worked out of the box on the OnePlus 8 Pro), I guess it is missing some config? not clear to me if this is "fixable" ... it's not a very big deal ... but still

    I did not root (yet) ... I've rooted all my phones so far ... wanted to give it a try without root first for a couple of days/weeks. I guess it's partially a "mental" thing ;-)

    I disabled (freeze) 73 APKs ... yes you can freeze without root using "App Freezer" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wakasoftware.appfreezer). Normally I would use root for that. XML file exported from App Freezer attached (for those wanting to have a look).

    Adblocking ... normally also via root but AdBlock can work in VPN mode ... it sorta works ... not always 100% reliable (VPN drops).

    I found a way to make other apps dark which are normally white: just do
    Code:
    adb shell setprop debug.hwui.force_dark true
    but this does NOT persist after a reboot. You can as well go into developer settings and there is an option there (just search for "dark" in the settings), this changes the same property. Again, via root yould easily make this "stick" across reboots.

    What I "miss" most (compared to my OnePlus 8 Pro): BLACK mode ... which I did using (rooted) Substratum and the SwiftBlack theme. Now I managed to make everything "darkish" with the dark theme and the option above. Sorta OK and more or less "consistent" across the board ... have to get used to that ... or later change to BLACK with root. Never understood why that is not an "option" (to set dark to BLACK).

    So ... after 2 days ... Google's first "flagship"? Hmm ... the camera is very good (I'm not an expert to judge foto details) ... and the AI (speech recognition, live translation) is state-of-the-art for this type of device ... but ... all of that is not differentiating enough (for me) to really make the phone "stand out" and give it a big leap ahead of the competition ...

    So when the Google guy announced it as "our first flagship" he probably meant: finally, our engineers are up to par with the Apples/Samsungs/OnePlus of this world ...

    You will maybe say/think: just stick with OnePlus if you like it so much ... well ... I promised that phone to my wife so no return back ;-)

    Anyway, it's only the second day ... need to learn to love it a little bit ...
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    So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
    1. Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
    2. Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
    3. The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
    4. So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
    5. The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
    6. Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
    7. VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
    8. Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++

    I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.

    It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.

    Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
    I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points

    1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
    2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
    3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
    4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
    5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.
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    my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.
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    Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.

    You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.

    Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.

    Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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    First impressions of this post - not great.
    The Samsung lover is strong in this one.
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    Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
    Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.