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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
What was Google thinking?! As if our networks are 100% reliable?! In the UK they 'frequently' go down and most customers have no service (and no compensation) whilst a proportion switch between 5g and 4g and can go about life as normal'ish.

Google have dug their own hole here. I'm sure that my carrier will eventually realise the error of there ways (drowning in CS calls when they have an outage) but right now, I have a S21U that doesn't have this issue. I'm just hoping this isn't an Android 12 'feature'!!!

I don't want to go 'back' to Samsung but for me this Pixel is a total anti-climax... bit like the S21 was compared to S20. Had hoped the 'Samsung modem' that was being posted about in the Pixel 6 was the S20 generation one - I suspect it's not and it's the S21 one instead.

I thought my S21U had a fault with connectivity but today going out with my Pixel 6 I was without connection for 30 minutes whilst with my S21U in the same route it's more like 15 minutes without 'service' (5G bars present but not working).
 
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Seriously no idea what you're on about with this apparent blinding light in the thumb reader
Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
 

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
 
My Oneplus 8 pro does this too. I'm sure it's happening on the Pixel as well considering the style the smartphone world has gone to with crazy charging animations and stuff. I hated it so I don't use it, luckily OP has face unlock, Pixel does not.
Argh, you mentionned it... yes, yes, yes!

Although face unlock isn't very secure on android, they should have given it as a option with warnings like Samsung do.
 
No. It lights up like any other scanner I've ever had or seen. It's for a fraction of a second before the phone opens. You're either vastly exaggerating this "blinding" thing I've seen you posting or its faulty
Exaggerating but not vastly. It's not a good user experience. Maybe I have a superbright screen or something, but it's not good IMHO. Ultrasonic 'feels' much 'nicer'.
 

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I'd agree that my S21U has a much better display and feels premium compared to my P6P. The hollow sounding display doesn't help either on the P6P. OneUI however drives me insane and the s21U was just too heavy, it's nice not feeling like there's a brick in my pocket. Anyway, I've got a buyer for my S21U and will use the P6P now until next year. Let's see what next year brings us in phones.
 
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One of the first setup screens is yes to the flipping right or left? Google Services screen, the selection switches are hard to select and dark grey to the right (off?) and light gray to the left (on?). What are they smoking. Why not, you know, have the setting say if it is enabled or not? I hate dark color schemes. Multi Million dollar data centers and you can't read the HMI screens because someone gets off on the dark theme???
 
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I read this in several posts too. I guess Samsung is the largest producer of screen now... even Apple have used them IIRC.
It may have to do with variable display rates. Try at different frequencies. LED ambient lighting may screw it the up too.
The color rendering specs for the N10+ display exceed the S21U, so there may be a tradeoff for variable frequency and/or increased maximum brightness.
 
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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
None of my OnePlus do. Power on the right, volume on the left...
 
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If on AT&T, you do not get to choose between 4g lte or 5g. The option is not available. AT&T forces you onto 5g.
So for AT&T users, they are screwed then since the Google thought photo gimmicks were more important than top performing modem. Good to know and sympathies for AT&T users who were expecting something great from Google, instead just getting a gimmick phone.

Translator, photo gimmicks and gaming. But slowest CPU, crappg modem, worst in class display. Awesome. Google priorities, treating their customers as beta testers for their software gimmicks once again rather than give them the phone everyone wants.
 
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In the UK on EE and the option to change the network type is not there. This is a setting the carrier can decide to hide or show, and it seems some operators are of the opinion they don't want us deciding how we should use our phones. It wouldn't be quite so bad if my Pixel 6 Pro was from the carrier, but I bought it myself, so I should be allowed to choose how I use it.

5G is patchy (at this time and probably for years), I don't need my phone constantly moving up from 4G to 5G then back down again when I'm going on a trip anywhere, especially when I'm driving and so not using my phone. Also it doesn't just connect to 5G as it would still be maintaining a connection to 4G to receive calls, so battery drain is crazy for no benefit. So restricting to just 4G only makes sense. I guess the mobile phone companies are just desperate to hand people off to their 5G infrastructure to make use of it, hence the no choice, despite it clearly not always in the customers best interest.

Google gets black marks for allowing them to customise (and remove) these options.
 

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    so to add to this complaint thread, or whatever this is. i've had the phone since Nov 3rd. i have mostly all of the same issues except the color on the screen.

    1. the screen is just fine for me.
    2. the speakers are good, loud and has a decent balance between left and right when watching videos.
    3. the screen when tapped, yes sounds weird, almost hollow which is not a negative for me, just..... different.
    4. 5g.... crap, the best i have gotten is about 100mbps speed in one spot driving around and testing, not on the go but driving around 3 towns in different areas as i drive a bit everyday. and the average has been around 10mbps. then i switched to LTE and averaged around 20-30 down and 15 up and i just opened a new line for this phone, so new sim card and everything. on my oneplus 7pro i average 60-90 and 30-50 up on LTE everywhere i drive.
    5. finger scanner.... horrible, just no, tried all the tricks you guys mentioned and nothing improved. i can quickly scan my finger on the Oneplus 7Pro and it grabs my finger right away. with this, i just either re-scan or hold it longer which feels useless to have in the first place.

    now for the stuff i want to add and not sure if it has been mentioned as there are now 20 pages and dont feel like scanning through them all haha

    6. the bluetooth (tested with the new pixel buds and oneplus buds and other bluetooth earphones and such) is basically useless anything below 90% and only the last 4 clicks of volume are good in day time and even then it goes from
    4th click from max: feeling like 80% volume
    3rd from max: feeling like 90% volume
    2nd from max: feeling like 100% volume
    maxed out volume: WHY DO MY EARS HURT???

    7. i noticed the tap to wake works less then half the time, i turned off the lift to wake because when pulling out of my pocket i was sliding down the notification and toggling stuff ALL the damn time! it was super annoying, so i turned that off and turned on only tap to wake, but that dont even work well. i will tap, then tap tap, then tap tap tap tap, until i get annoyed and press the power button... oh the power button....

    8. the power button on mine, not sure if its defective, but you can only click on it if you press on it EXACTLY in the middle of the button, and then press slightly hard on it to actually press it in and it clicks. the volumes buttons are fine, just the power button needs to be pressed right in the middle and a bit harder compared to the volume buttons. -_-

    9. i noticed a "glitch", sometimes i will pull down the notification bar and there will be a black area between the toggles and the notifications. i will pull down again to see the toggles and then swipe up to go back to home screen but it will just go to a black screen, until i swipe up again and then i see the notifications. so im still in the notification area but in a black area of it. i can swipe down to see the toggles again or swipe up to see the notifications and then swipe up again to go to home screen or whatever app i was in. but this happens sometimes, its hard to replicate.

    oh oh just noticed another small complaint

    10. when double tapping a notification that i want to open, i HAVE to type in my pin to unlock so it goes to that app. with my OP7P i can double tap that notification to open it and go to it and it will just ask for my finger print, no pin needed. why do i have to type in the pin when the finger print is faster in this case??

    so those are my add-ons for now, again not sure if they have been mentioned or not
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    I've only had my Pixel 6 pro 256 cloudy white for one day so I haven't had much time so these are very, very initial impressions!

    This d*mn phone is slippery 😳, I've never been this scared without a phone case! Lol (it's on the way tho)

    Build Quality: 👍 I like it, I have no issues. Definitely looks nice. I'm not a curved screen fan yet I like this curved screen. Looks nice and no issues thus far. Love how you can't really even see the top speaker yet it's loud & clear.

    Sound: Sound quality & volume is Good. I will say its equally as loud as the pixel 4xl yet the sound is much clearer at its peak volume. Sound is balanced to me also.

    Battery: I honestly cannot provide a true assessment but I have no issues as of yet. I have everything on including 5g and it's on pace to last all day. I'm not having any crazy drain issues or worries.

    * Did I have to or need to upgrade... No, but I definitely like the phone so far. Oh and the screen does feel a tad hollow compared to my 4XL but definitely not an issue either.
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    Don't take it so personal. Didn't mean to imply that everyone who had a complaint was paid off. But when so many good reviews come in, and so many are having little to no problems, that these reviews/comments here are so over the top seem strange.
    Good reviews?
    I only see those if I" Google" the phone. Don't see to many in any of the forums.
    This phone is a disappointment at Best.
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    Is anyone having signal problems, I thought I'd fixed it but i didn't. I turned off adaptive network and battery,worked better for 10 minutes then dropped again. 4G in my house is solid on all previous phones but what I've noticed today is the signal goes to full if I take my hand away from bottom of the phone. Like my hand is blocking signal cos as soon as I put my hand back it drops again 🙄 reminds me of an old iPhone that has similar issue years ago. It isn't affecting speeds or connection but with a low signal I worry about battery life. Battery life has been great so far and signal seems better when I'm out and about. But at home is worse than all previous phones I've had
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    From Android Authority:

    "As mentioned, the Pixel 6 Pro tops out at 22W of power, far below the maximum charging potential offered by the adapter itself (as we’ll see in the next section). This peak power draw is sustained until 50% charge, which takes about 31 minutes, virtually as advertised. However, after that initial period of faster charging, power sent to the phone falls to 15W at around 62% battery capacity or around 40 minutes. This remains steady until falling further to just 12W by 75% capacity, which takes around 53 minutes to hit. From there the power holds steady once more until 85% charge is obtained at around the 63-minute mark, after which power gradually falls to as little as 2.5W by the time the battery is full.
    Our verdicts: Google Pixel 6 review | Google Pixel 6 Pro review

    Charging this last 15% of the battery takes an exorbitant about of time, requiring a further hour to finish filling up. Oddly, the phone actually switches back to the standard USB Power Delivery protocol after hitting around 75% battery capacity. There’s no clear reason for this and might be a hangover from Google’s old charging algorithm, as we’ll see later.

    After hitting 50% charge, power falls from 22W to 15W and then well below.
    Looking at a full charge cycle, the phone is reasonably quick to hit 50% but the following 50% takes three times as long. Temperature-wise, the phone didn’t break 35°C peak, which is very good, though it’s quickly turning to winter at the time of writing, so the external temperature may have played a small factor. Still, there’s plenty of thermal headroom in the latter stages of charging, with battery temperatures hovering close to just 25°C. The only other reason for Google to be playing it so conservative is so as not to strain a reasonably cheap low C-Rate battery."
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    So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
    1. Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
    2. Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
    3. The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
    4. So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
    5. The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
    6. Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
    7. VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
    8. Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++

    I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.

    It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.

    Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
    I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points

    1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
    2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
    3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
    4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
    5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.
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    my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.
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    Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.

    You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.

    Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.

    Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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    First impressions of this post - not great.
    The Samsung lover is strong in this one.
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    Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
    Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.