It was more the sound and apparent flex that reminded me of plastic, not the texture. But I have to say that some plastic can be pretty smooth!
General First impressions - not great
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To be honest, if the industry could fake the Mohs hardness of glass, I'd instantly be on board with a plastic screen. Imagine having a phone that you can smash against the wall and nothing would happen. 100% would buy it. I hate having to care for my device to be sure not to drop it, otherwise it might break... and I'll have to cash out hundreds of bucks to fix it... it's the same story with the glass back... wtf. Just why. Give me a stainless steel chassie, so my phone will still function in 10 years. Thank you.
Modern plastic displays are sh*t, because they can get scratched with your bare fingernail. Just take a look at Samsungs Foldables or Nintendo Switchs'. That's why glass displays have a reason to exist. But take that away...
I cancelled one of my P6P orders and was just about to cancel the second one as it was showing a month delay, but it shipped this morning.
So, I guess I am getting one P6P and one iPhone 13 Max in a month. I will try the P6P for myself and if the battery and 5G are problematic, will return.
So, I guess I am getting one P6P and one iPhone 13 Max in a month. I will try the P6P for myself and if the battery and 5G are problematic, will return.
I am coming from a Oneplus 7 Pro and totally agree with everything you said. Still playing with mine prior to rooting. Thanks for the tips!
So about a week into having this phone and I've provided a couple updates. One thing I did was request a new SIM card from Verizon which I installed earlier today. My problem with network access appears to be much less of an issue now. The signal strength is showing much better than it has so that is one thing that you could try if you are on Verizon and are having problems with the signal strength.
One thing that it didn't fix, and which I am perplexed about, is that I have still not received any update. I thought the SIM card change might make it available but still not there. I am not sure why this is and no response from Google about it.
Ultimately, I am planning on keeping this phone. I haven't had the screen freeze glitch since Sunday night and can't see for sure what caused it. My battery life is doing quite well, maybe it is as I read where the phone has to kind of get used to your use of it. But after taking it off the charge this morning at about 7:30 and using it in my normal way, I am still at 81% about 9 hours later. This is much better than I had when I first started using it, and I truly believe it is a combination of turning off the 5G but also now with the updated SIM card that I put in this morning, maybe my phone is not searching as much for the network.
For anyone who has still an order pending and they're contemplating whether or not to keep it, that is your own decision. There is a lot of opinions and thoughts on here but through it all the decision is really yours to make. With each phone there's always unique occurrences and for me I always put a screen protector on and keep a case as part of my daily use. So I don't really have concerns or problems with a spot in the center of the screen or the rounded edges or the glass on the back. Would I like a flat screen, yeah I guess but rounded edges are not giving me any problem so there's that. The only thing that would make me upgrade this phone in the coming years would be if they went back to the fingerprint sensor on the back. I just thought that was more ergonomically correct? And I just don't use the fingerprint sensor on the screen. Anyways, I keep the phone unlocked at my house when I'm working here and if I go out I use swipe or a PIN.
Good luck to you all and thanks everybody for providing your insights and feedback.
One thing that it didn't fix, and which I am perplexed about, is that I have still not received any update. I thought the SIM card change might make it available but still not there. I am not sure why this is and no response from Google about it.
Ultimately, I am planning on keeping this phone. I haven't had the screen freeze glitch since Sunday night and can't see for sure what caused it. My battery life is doing quite well, maybe it is as I read where the phone has to kind of get used to your use of it. But after taking it off the charge this morning at about 7:30 and using it in my normal way, I am still at 81% about 9 hours later. This is much better than I had when I first started using it, and I truly believe it is a combination of turning off the 5G but also now with the updated SIM card that I put in this morning, maybe my phone is not searching as much for the network.
For anyone who has still an order pending and they're contemplating whether or not to keep it, that is your own decision. There is a lot of opinions and thoughts on here but through it all the decision is really yours to make. With each phone there's always unique occurrences and for me I always put a screen protector on and keep a case as part of my daily use. So I don't really have concerns or problems with a spot in the center of the screen or the rounded edges or the glass on the back. Would I like a flat screen, yeah I guess but rounded edges are not giving me any problem so there's that. The only thing that would make me upgrade this phone in the coming years would be if they went back to the fingerprint sensor on the back. I just thought that was more ergonomically correct? And I just don't use the fingerprint sensor on the screen. Anyways, I keep the phone unlocked at my house when I'm working here and if I go out I use swipe or a PIN.
Good luck to you all and thanks everybody for providing your insights and feedback.
I ALWAYS accidentally take screenshots on my OP7P! LOL - facts.This. As the one thing that always bugged me about my OP6 is that I constantly took accidental screenshots having the power and volume directly across from each other
I upgraded to this phone from an S8+ with a crack in the corner of the screen and a busted camera lens, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
I've had this for about a week now, and I've been following most people's posts so far on reddit and XDA so I know the generic complaints. As for what I've seen...
The battery is serviceable. It's obviously much better than my previous phone, but it's certainly not at iPhone levels. I average 8-9 hours screen time, lose about 1%/hr on standby. This is with AOD, now listening and everything else at default. "Mobile data always on" disabled in developer options, 5g disabled for now. These phones have a context hub that allows things like AOD to be enabled without much battery drain at all, so enjoy it!
The fingerprint sensor: it's fine. I have my right thumb scanned twice, and the option toggled to increase sensitivity on the screen. People having a legit issue with this need to delete their fingerprint and re-enter it, making sure they scan every area of their finger. Beyond that its nitpicking IMO.
The curved screen/general display. After the S8+ I wasn't exactly keen to go through this again, and if I wasn't trying to have 4x optical zoom and a larger screen Id've opted for the regular P6. Unfortunately for whatever reason Google decided the "Pro" phone nomenclature necessitated curved glass. It doesn't. That said I don't notice any screen taps with my palm even when I purposely try to do it. I intend to put a screen protector on here so that's gonna be a pain, but as we all know: glass is glass, and glass breaks. And in the case of victus, it also scratches. I've seen some madmen post about why put a protector on victus? Watch the Note 20 get scratched like anything else here.
Sound quality, especially at peak volume, is great so far. I've installed the Wavelet app to allow for a little equalizer action, and this is actually the first phone I've owned with any semblance of bass, which is unexpected and welcome. I'm sure some Razr phones have it beat, but this wasn't marketed on the strength of it's speakers so...I'll take it.
Android 12 isn't finished, and it will need some refining in future updates. That said, I'm running Nova Launcher with gestures and having no trouble navigating the phone. Nothing is clashing for me gesture-wise. I appreciate the microphone and camera notification toggles for the added sense of security. Security is actually the main thing keeping me from unlocking the bootloader and rooting atm, although I may push though for AdAway. For now, though, everything is working, no crashes, no lag whatsoever, apps stay in memory...until I charge overnight at least, after which for some reason all but my last few seem to disappear. Strange but no deal breakers. Just looking forward to Android 12 being finished...soon Google, soon.
Camera and AI features in general are IMO the selling points of this phone. Speech to text is fast and accurate, and the camera being easily accessible via power double tap and generally responsive outside of night sight is a big win. The night mode photography does take a couple seconds longer than I would like to brighten a dark room, but I suppose the results make up for the need for steady hands.
I could probably go on, but this is getting lengthy. TL;DR, this thing is a solid 9/10 right now, and could be a 9.5 with some future updates. The weakest things are Android 12 and the battery, and 12 will be fixed someday or become 13. If you're jumping from another current flagship to a cheaper phone like this and not satisfied, that's understandable. But anyone upgrading to the P6P from an older phone will probably be very happy.
I've had this for about a week now, and I've been following most people's posts so far on reddit and XDA so I know the generic complaints. As for what I've seen...
The battery is serviceable. It's obviously much better than my previous phone, but it's certainly not at iPhone levels. I average 8-9 hours screen time, lose about 1%/hr on standby. This is with AOD, now listening and everything else at default. "Mobile data always on" disabled in developer options, 5g disabled for now. These phones have a context hub that allows things like AOD to be enabled without much battery drain at all, so enjoy it!
The fingerprint sensor: it's fine. I have my right thumb scanned twice, and the option toggled to increase sensitivity on the screen. People having a legit issue with this need to delete their fingerprint and re-enter it, making sure they scan every area of their finger. Beyond that its nitpicking IMO.
The curved screen/general display. After the S8+ I wasn't exactly keen to go through this again, and if I wasn't trying to have 4x optical zoom and a larger screen Id've opted for the regular P6. Unfortunately for whatever reason Google decided the "Pro" phone nomenclature necessitated curved glass. It doesn't. That said I don't notice any screen taps with my palm even when I purposely try to do it. I intend to put a screen protector on here so that's gonna be a pain, but as we all know: glass is glass, and glass breaks. And in the case of victus, it also scratches. I've seen some madmen post about why put a protector on victus? Watch the Note 20 get scratched like anything else here.
Sound quality, especially at peak volume, is great so far. I've installed the Wavelet app to allow for a little equalizer action, and this is actually the first phone I've owned with any semblance of bass, which is unexpected and welcome. I'm sure some Razr phones have it beat, but this wasn't marketed on the strength of it's speakers so...I'll take it.
Android 12 isn't finished, and it will need some refining in future updates. That said, I'm running Nova Launcher with gestures and having no trouble navigating the phone. Nothing is clashing for me gesture-wise. I appreciate the microphone and camera notification toggles for the added sense of security. Security is actually the main thing keeping me from unlocking the bootloader and rooting atm, although I may push though for AdAway. For now, though, everything is working, no crashes, no lag whatsoever, apps stay in memory...until I charge overnight at least, after which for some reason all but my last few seem to disappear. Strange but no deal breakers. Just looking forward to Android 12 being finished...soon Google, soon.
Camera and AI features in general are IMO the selling points of this phone. Speech to text is fast and accurate, and the camera being easily accessible via power double tap and generally responsive outside of night sight is a big win. The night mode photography does take a couple seconds longer than I would like to brighten a dark room, but I suppose the results make up for the need for steady hands.
I could probably go on, but this is getting lengthy. TL;DR, this thing is a solid 9/10 right now, and could be a 9.5 with some future updates. The weakest things are Android 12 and the battery, and 12 will be fixed someday or become 13. If you're jumping from another current flagship to a cheaper phone like this and not satisfied, that's understandable. But anyone upgrading to the P6P from an older phone will probably be very happy.
yeah I received my 6 Pro yesterday from ATT and I did the update and reset and trained my thumb 3 times and its the worst fingerprint reader I have ever used, or mine was defective one, but its going back, I had the S21 ultra with the ultrasonic one and other optical finger printer readers and they were never this bad and slow., and the hollow screen, rest of the phone is nice but I have the pixel 3xl with android 12. I`ll keep using for a bit.
#8 Gave me a good laugh. The way you wrote it, not the fact that you have a slightly blocked vessel. As for the screen being yellow it could be the adhesive on the screen isn't fully cured and it'll get better over time. I'd say RMA but given the supply constraints that would be difficult. Unless Google set aside enough devices for warranty purposes. I hope you find a device that will tick all the boxes for you soon!
So in an attempt to convince myself to keep my p6p 256gb which I lucked out getting, instead of going back to my Samsung s20fe 5g I did some testing in regards to temperatures. The samsung never felt anywhere near as warm as the p6p.
No sim card in either devices, strictly connected to wifi I ran a battery temperature monitor for roughly a total of 10 minutes. The first 5 minutes I recorded 4k video with each phone. The S20fe 5g reached a max temp of 38c where as the p6p reached 41c.
I then let them both cool down to about 34c and started listening to my high quality, already downloaded on each phone spotify playlist(same playlist). I also while still playing the music played 'Bejewelled Classic'. After 5 minutes on each device I noticed the samsung maxed out at 35c whereas the p6p maxed out at 39c and felt warm to the touch.
Now I'll admit I don't know what the throttle back temperature is on each device but 40c seems pretty warm for a phone to get. Do I perhaps have a dud p6p? I have seen reports the tensors do run warmer but I can honestly say I've never felt any warmth from the samsung as opposed to the p6p.
Just figured I'd drop this temp/heat info for those curious.
No sim card in either devices, strictly connected to wifi I ran a battery temperature monitor for roughly a total of 10 minutes. The first 5 minutes I recorded 4k video with each phone. The S20fe 5g reached a max temp of 38c where as the p6p reached 41c.
I then let them both cool down to about 34c and started listening to my high quality, already downloaded on each phone spotify playlist(same playlist). I also while still playing the music played 'Bejewelled Classic'. After 5 minutes on each device I noticed the samsung maxed out at 35c whereas the p6p maxed out at 39c and felt warm to the touch.
Now I'll admit I don't know what the throttle back temperature is on each device but 40c seems pretty warm for a phone to get. Do I perhaps have a dud p6p? I have seen reports the tensors do run warmer but I can honestly say I've never felt any warmth from the samsung as opposed to the p6p.
Just figured I'd drop this temp/heat info for those curious.
I would do a factory reset, login to your google account but don't restore any apps or your backup. Just do this as a test. If you still get warm temperatures take it back. Look, 3 degrees isn't much but 39 degrees just playing music is a bit warm. I average 30-33 on spotify with the screen on or off, downloaded playlist, highest quality.
Prior to the testing with the p6p the device had been factory reset. I did NOT do app data recovery aka restore apps.
I turned on the pixel
connected to my wifi
logged in with my google account
verified no pending system updates and matched version with up to date version listed in XDA
went into google play and updated all apps
rebooted device, noticed more apps to be updated so updated
installed spotify and battery monitor, let spotify download playlist
verified no further updates, turned OFF device and let charge completely
turned back on device, input code so rest of ui/os would load and let sit for 5 hours.
Again verified no system updates, verified no google play updates and then at that point began testing. Granted, the system could still be optimizing apps but I concur 39c is rather toasty for a mobile phone (if only my pc would be 39c at full load running new world lol).
Very well written. Thank you for providing your experience and thoughts.
I've only had my Pixel 6 pro 256 cloudy white for one day so I haven't had much time so these are very, very initial impressions!
This d*mn phone is slippery
, I've never been this scared without a phone case! Lol (it's on the way tho)
Build Quality:
I like it, I have no issues. Definitely looks nice. I'm not a curved screen fan yet I like this curved screen. Looks nice and no issues thus far. Love how you can't really even see the top speaker yet it's loud & clear.
Sound: Sound quality & volume is Good. I will say its equally as loud as the pixel 4xl yet the sound is much clearer at its peak volume. Sound is balanced to me also.
Battery: I honestly cannot provide a true assessment but I have no issues as of yet. I have everything on including 5g and it's on pace to last all day. I'm not having any crazy drain issues or worries.
* Did I have to or need to upgrade... No, but I definitely like the phone so far. Oh and the screen does feel a tad hollow compared to my 4XL but definitely not an issue either.
This d*mn phone is slippery
, I've never been this scared without a phone case! Lol (it's on the way tho)Build Quality:
I like it, I have no issues. Definitely looks nice. I'm not a curved screen fan yet I like this curved screen. Looks nice and no issues thus far. Love how you can't really even see the top speaker yet it's loud & clear.Sound: Sound quality & volume is Good. I will say its equally as loud as the pixel 4xl yet the sound is much clearer at its peak volume. Sound is balanced to me also.
Battery: I honestly cannot provide a true assessment but I have no issues as of yet. I have everything on including 5g and it's on pace to last all day. I'm not having any crazy drain issues or worries.
* Did I have to or need to upgrade... No, but I definitely like the phone so far. Oh and the screen does feel a tad hollow compared to my 4XL but definitely not an issue either.
Agree, the pull down notification tile area is fugly at best, what were they thinking, why so big its pointless
Got my 512 Stormy P6P yesterday and have been pleased so far. Got it set up and have been playing with it since. Did not have any flickering screen, heat or other issues so far. Fingerprint sensor is very picky! have retrained them again this AM, lets see how it goes.
Android you swipe away from the edge of the screen, I find it much better than iOS as iOS requires a developer to code in that back button for the app, whereas android it's baked in.
From Android Authority:
"As mentioned, the Pixel 6 Pro tops out at 22W of power, far below the maximum charging potential offered by the adapter itself (as we’ll see in the next section). This peak power draw is sustained until 50% charge, which takes about 31 minutes, virtually as advertised. However, after that initial period of faster charging, power sent to the phone falls to 15W at around 62% battery capacity or around 40 minutes. This remains steady until falling further to just 12W by 75% capacity, which takes around 53 minutes to hit. From there the power holds steady once more until 85% charge is obtained at around the 63-minute mark, after which power gradually falls to as little as 2.5W by the time the battery is full.
Our verdicts: Google Pixel 6 review | Google Pixel 6 Pro review
Charging this last 15% of the battery takes an exorbitant about of time, requiring a further hour to finish filling up. Oddly, the phone actually switches back to the standard USB Power Delivery protocol after hitting around 75% battery capacity. There’s no clear reason for this and might be a hangover from Google’s old charging algorithm, as we’ll see later.
After hitting 50% charge, power falls from 22W to 15W and then well below.
Looking at a full charge cycle, the phone is reasonably quick to hit 50% but the following 50% takes three times as long. Temperature-wise, the phone didn’t break 35°C peak, which is very good, though it’s quickly turning to winter at the time of writing, so the external temperature may have played a small factor. Still, there’s plenty of thermal headroom in the latter stages of charging, with battery temperatures hovering close to just 25°C. The only other reason for Google to be playing it so conservative is so as not to strain a reasonably cheap low C-Rate battery."
"As mentioned, the Pixel 6 Pro tops out at 22W of power, far below the maximum charging potential offered by the adapter itself (as we’ll see in the next section). This peak power draw is sustained until 50% charge, which takes about 31 minutes, virtually as advertised. However, after that initial period of faster charging, power sent to the phone falls to 15W at around 62% battery capacity or around 40 minutes. This remains steady until falling further to just 12W by 75% capacity, which takes around 53 minutes to hit. From there the power holds steady once more until 85% charge is obtained at around the 63-minute mark, after which power gradually falls to as little as 2.5W by the time the battery is full.
Our verdicts: Google Pixel 6 review | Google Pixel 6 Pro review
Charging this last 15% of the battery takes an exorbitant about of time, requiring a further hour to finish filling up. Oddly, the phone actually switches back to the standard USB Power Delivery protocol after hitting around 75% battery capacity. There’s no clear reason for this and might be a hangover from Google’s old charging algorithm, as we’ll see later.
After hitting 50% charge, power falls from 22W to 15W and then well below.
Looking at a full charge cycle, the phone is reasonably quick to hit 50% but the following 50% takes three times as long. Temperature-wise, the phone didn’t break 35°C peak, which is very good, though it’s quickly turning to winter at the time of writing, so the external temperature may have played a small factor. Still, there’s plenty of thermal headroom in the latter stages of charging, with battery temperatures hovering close to just 25°C. The only other reason for Google to be playing it so conservative is so as not to strain a reasonably cheap low C-Rate battery."
"Pixel 6 doesn’t actually charge at 30W as Google implies, analysis finds 22W max"
9to5Google has released an interesting article. I never noticed this, since I charge my phone slowly overnight with a 5 watt wireless charger. Have you guys also experienced this? Can people here with root can confirm wattage measurements...
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I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points
1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.16my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.10Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.
You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.
Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.
Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.9Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
