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Morgrain

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Do you not get a full illuminated thumb/finger when you press on it? Several of us, do. It's a bit surreal really - even if it's been more reliable than the U/Sonic one I have with my S21U. I'd rather be able to not blind myself in a dark room when trying to simply unlock my phone,
I was trying to replicate your problem yesterday evening by playing with my phone in my bed in darkness. I use my thumbs to unlock the phone. That is why I had a hard time replicating your issue. When laying my thumb on the sensor, it's covered like 99% and even in a dimly or completely black environment, it doesn't bother me. HOWEVER, one time, I only laid a portion of my thumb on the scanner and about 20% of the illumination hit my face. That was indeed a ****ty experience, even though it's only for a very brief amount of time. So yes, that indeed can be a problem, even though it won't bother me much. It only happens if you misplace your thumb when trying to unlock the phone at night, even though most often or not the phone won't lock anyway in bed, at least not for me because I usually have wear detection on.

So yea, that is definitely a critic point, especially if you use other fingers than your thumb to unlock the phone.
 

PhilipL2021

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I was trying to replicate your problem yesterday evening by playing with my phone in my bed in darkness. I use my thumbs to unlock the phone. That is why I had a hard time replicating your issue. When laying my thumb on the sensor, it's covered like 99% and even in a dimly or completely black environment, it doesn't bother me. HOWEVER, one time, I only laid a portion of my thumb on the scanner and about 20% of the illumination hit my face. That was indeed a ****ty experience, even though it's only for a very brief amount of time. So yes, that indeed can be a problem, even though it won't bother me much. It only happens if you misplace your thumb when trying to unlock the phone at night, even though most often or not the phone won't lock anyway in bed, at least not for me because I usually have wear detection on.

So yea, that is definitely a critic point, especially if you use other fingers than your thumb to unlock the phone.

For me it all felt a bit weird seeing the light shine through my thumb, and seeing it glow red like it was burning hot when using it the dark. If not covering completely it is pretty blinding in the dark.

The other thing that concerns me is that circle is running the OLED panel in that area at maximum current and brightness, even if for a short period of time, it's over driving a circle of pixels where nothing else on that panel will likely ever be driven at that brightness, and unlocking many times a day that short flash soon adds up. So my concern is could it cause a circular shadow to appear over time due to those pixels wearing out quicker? Presumably other phones do this so maybe that just doesn't happen.

Currently I've gone back to using a pin code, and have it set to smart unlock whilst at my home location, as it all just feels unnatural, the whole process of it, whereas a finger print scanner on the back was just natural and convenient.

At the least the Pixel 6 always seems to know when I'm going to use it and turns on automatically, even though it is set not to, it actually works quite well as it would be a pain to be using the power button all the time.
 

xgerryx

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I believe some people were born to complain.

There is no such thing as a perfect phone, at least not for everyone. Why don't you forgo both Google and Samsung phones and buy an iPhone....
There is a baseline of things people expect in a smartphone in 2021, especially at this price. When things don't meet that criteria, people point it out. As they should. Life is an expectations game, always. They sold this as the best thing ever, turns out it might not be. Doesn't mean it's a "bad" phone.
 

Courtrick

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Dec 12, 2019
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There is a baseline of things people expect in a smartphone in 2021, especially at this price. When things don't meet that criteria, people point it out. As they should. Life is an expectations game, always. They sold this as the best thing ever, turns out it might not be. Doesn't mean it's a "bad" phone.
how can you say price point when we are talking about a phone that's £850 vs £1099, I'm sorry but from what I've heard from the majority of the reviewers and people online who have the phone I've heard lots of positives. There is an over £200 difference between Pixel 6 Pro and Galaxy S21 (just barely over but over), there may be compromises but most people say they aren't that bad at all and they are in completely different price points anyway.

That being said, if these fingerprint sensor issues are that bad then I may need to reconsider before purchasing but I do hope it's been sorted soon
 

Birdsfan

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For what it's worth, in my less than 24 hours with the phone I have been happy to very happy with the phone. Many have mentioned there is no "perfect phone" for all of us as that definition is varied based on the individual. The power button arrangement is the same as my Pixel 4XL so I'm good. I like facial recognition W A Y better, others like fingerprint, personal preference. I would have rathered they used a frosted glass and a flat screen even if the phone would have been a bit thicker (I actually prefer a thicker device). Connectivity and all that, we will see what happens but so far for me with AT&T I have not noticed any difference but ymmv. I look at it this way, this is Google first attempt at it's own chip/truly high end phone and I think this would grade out as a B+. Hopefully they will take the positives and continue that next gen and correct the perceived mistakes based on the majority of their users since they will never satisfy everyone.
 

xgerryx

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how can you say price point when we are talking about a phone that's £850 vs £1099, I'm sorry but from what I've heard from the majority of the reviewers and people online who have the phone I've heard lots of positives. There is an over £200 difference between Pixel 6 Pro and Galaxy S21 (just barely over but over), there may be compromises but most people say they aren't that bad at all and they are in completely different price points anyway.

That being said, if these fingerprint sensor issues are that bad then I may need to reconsider before purchasing but I do hope it's been sorted soon
I think it depends where you are coming from. I have a Oneplus 8 pro and it cost me $1,000 in 2019 with free ear buds that I sold and a 10% student discount, so I really paid about $825. It has the same specs as the Pixel 6 pro aside from the chip, and my phone feels the same as it did new. All of the little things I've seen that would make me like a phone LESS don't exist on mine. Or they are in parallel. People coming from a Pixel 4 or the mid range 5 would absolutely love this Pixel 6 pro.

A good example is the battery life seems to be very poor in real world situations on the 6 pro, and it loses to whatever phone it's up against in the battery drain tests I've seen. My phone gets 6-8 SoT depending what I'm doing and i never even have to think about it. I can also lower my screen resolution to 1080p. What is one of the only things that can actually save you battery on the 6 pro? Lowering screen rez, and you CAN'T DO IT. That's a real world issue for me and there's no getting around it.
 
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Courtrick

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I think it depends where you are coming from. I have a Oneplus 8 pro and it cost me $1,000 in 2019 with free ear buds that I sold and a 10% student discount, so I really paid about $825. It has the same specs as the Pixel 6 pro aside from the chip, and my phone feels the same as it did new. All of the little things I've seen that would make me like a phone LESS don't exist on mine. Or they are in parallel. People coming from a Pixel 4 or the mid range 5 would absolutely love this Pixel 6 pro.

A good example is the battery life seems to be very poor in real world situations on the 6 pro, and it loses to whatever phone it's up against in the battery drain tests I've seen. My phone gets 6-8 SoT depending what I'm doing and i never even have to think about it. I can also lower my screen resolution to 1080p. What is one of the only things that can actually save you battery on the 6 pro? Lowering screen rez, and you CAN'T DO IT. That's a real world issue for me and there's no getting around it.
That's a good point, I personally really think this is a good phone but having seen everything on here I'm now scared to upgrade to it as I am worried the experience is really terrible
 

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    1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
    2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
    3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
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    You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.

    Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.

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