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PhilipL2021

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Google first attempt at it's own chip/truly high end phone and I think this would grade out as a B+

Google haven't really had much input into the chip, which is essentially a version of a Samsung Exynos. It's all standard off the shelf chips, all Google have done is a bit of a pic and mix that is all, then had it rebranded. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if a teardown of the phone, and if they can see the chip (it might have memory stacked on top) that it just doesn't say "Samsung Exynos" with some part number. Even the source code apparently has references to Samsung Exynos.

It is basically a Samsung designed SoC and Samsung designed phone. I can see the meetings between Samsung and Google with Google picking things and Samsung engineers just rolling their eyes saying "that doesn't make sense and you can't do that" and Google leaving in a mood for not getting what they wanted :)
 

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It's not that it's broken, it's that it's annoying. It's slow as hell compared to my 4a 5Gs traditional FPR and it lights up like a Christmas tree Everytime you use it. No thanks.
Its also optical not ultrasonic which is what cheap mid rangers use and not as secure either. Its disappointing they used this technology even if it was fast or consistent.
 
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Galaxy A71, I was hoping to actually get android updates in a reasonable period of time if I upgraded
Courtrick, don't let the comments in this thread dissuade you from buying this phone. There are PLENTY of reviews that grade this phone out be maybe a hair below excellent. Most owners here are hyper-aware of every nuance to a phone that 99% of the typical user would not see as issues. You won't be disappointed, run don't walk to the nearest store and pick one up...if you can find them of course.
 

Courtrick

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Courtrick, don't let the comments in this thread dissuade you from buying this phone. There are PLENTY of reviews that grade this phone out be maybe a hair below excellent. Most owners here are hyper-aware of every nuance to a phone that 99% of the typical user would not see as issues. You won't be disappointed, run don't walk to the nearest store and pick one up...if you can find them of course.
Ahaha fair enough, I've been tinkering with my Galaxy A71 for a while now I just can't find a good gsi rom to use with Bluetooth Support in the mean time. I will probably go for it just waiting to see if there are any deal breaking bugs now it's in wider use. I wouldn't describe myself as a typical user though as I love customization and am always the first to sign up for a beta, sometimes to my own detriment.
 

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Courtrick, don't let the comments in this thread dissuade you from buying this phone. There are PLENTY of reviews that grade this phone out be maybe a hair below excellent. Most owners here are hyper-aware of every nuance to a phone that 99% of the typical user would not see as issues. You won't be disappointed, run don't walk to the nearest store and pick one up...if you can find them of course.
This.
You'll see more people complain about the phone than you will see people loving the phone. This has always held up for everything. The people enjoying it are just doing that. They aren't looking for grievances.
 

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This.
You'll see more people complain about the phone than you will see people loving the phone. This has always held up for everything. The people enjoying it are just doing that. They aren't looking for grievances.

As with everything else in the world, its not perfect. At least, not for everybody. However, what it might be to some people, is BETTER than anything else out there.

Some imperfections can be fixed. Software flaws can be fixed when the source code becomes available. Some hardware flaws can be fixed with accessories like protective cases. Some flaws, you just have to live with, like if you dislike the curves on the sides of the screen.

Now while you might see a lot of complaints about certain characteristics, what you need to think about is the fact that complaints can actually be constructive. The complaints that can be fixed. Complaints lead to discussion which leads to solutions, which leads to coming closer to actually being perfect.

So don't worry too much. Read the complaints, and decide if they are fixable and/or livable. If they are, then this might be the phone for you. If not, then you might need to look somewhere else.
 

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Ahaha fair enough, I've been tinkering with my Galaxy A71 for a while now I just can't find a good gsi rom to use with Bluetooth Support in the mean time. I will probably go for it just waiting to see if there are any deal breaking bugs now it's in wider use. I wouldn't describe myself as a typical user though as I love customization and am always the first to sign up for a beta, sometimes to my own detriment.
If you're on any kind of mid range phone like the Samsung A phone this one will def be a huge upgrade for you. Especially coming from a Snapdragon 7xx processor, the Pixel will absolutely fly past it.
 

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Fingerprint scanner is SOOO SLOOOW
Screen is yellowish and very dim
Phone gets stupidly hot simply downloading updates

...it's going back! My Oppo Find X3 does *everything* better!
I'm not sure what you mean with slow. If I lay my finger on the scanner, it almost instantly unlocks - there is a short span of time, maybe a third of a second, that the phone needs from noticing my finger to unlocking/opening the homescreen. That's about to par with the unlocking time on my old Pixel 3. Is that much slower in your experience? Maybe it's a bug? Broken hardware?

There also seems to be some sort of animation scale event happening when unlocking, did you already try to tone that down to .5x or animation off (developer options) to see if that improves your experience?

I have to admit though that I never used other fingerprint scanner systems other than Googles backside fingerprint implementation, so my point of reference is rather small. The unlocking time on my P6 Pro certainly does not bother me, it appears to also be up to par with the time that my 4XL took to unlock (faceunlock).

I'm also not sure what you mean with very dim. If I max it out indoor, it's too bright and hurts my eyes. And I can clearly see everything on my phone even outside in bright daylight with sunglasses on. Do you have automatic brightness enabled?

The stupidly hot - mh. I did notice my phone getting quite warm when I first set it up, but I wouldn't call it stupid, or extreme. And it has not yet happened again (even this morning when it updated probably ~30 apps). Even though I have not yet had a heavy use case like prolonged 4K60FPS video shooting.
 
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is BETTER than anything else out there.
BIt misleading. The P2P is not the best phone out there.

Agree it's down to individual taste, however this phone is not premium in my eyes - it should have been at least £150 cheaper to fit the product delivery.

The Google 'employees' on here won't have the hype questionned. People need to be informed than they can make their own mind.

It's amazing I'm told that somehow love Samsung over Google and that's a sin.

Two things - it's just a phone. There's nothing to 'love' in inaminate objects - if you love your posessions, you are likely missing out on life. Also I have made my views of Samsung very well known on Samsung forums. I universally dislike misleading marketting and sub-standard products. Defective ones that are sold as "premium" are unforgiveable - doesn't matter who made them!
 
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darbylonia

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I've been reading all these first impressions comment and getting nervous as my Pro arrives tomorrow. I will play with it but if I find these flaws I will return and get the Asus ROG phone 5 Pro or Ultimate as those look like beasts.
 
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I've been reading all these first impressions comment and getting nervous as my Pro arrives tomorrow. I will play with it but if I find these flaws I will return and get the Asus ROG phone 5 Pro or Ultimate as those look like beasts.

Don't forget that the majority of users that do not experience problems never voice that. The silent majority usually stays silent. Some of the voiced problems here are questions of taste, like a fingerprint scanner not being fast enough (we can talk about hundreds of a second here, depending on the specific need of the person that has a direct point of reference that you might not have), or people hating on a phone that has a power button over the volume buttons (never bothered me for example), or people calling this was cheaply made, which I would call a joke. I've held IPhones, Galaxys, Pixels and other phones in my hand and - by comparison - this is the first Pixel with decent gap sizes (chassie - display). The exterior finish on the aluminium is without flaw. The display fits nicely into the chassie. That's what I call high quality. But that's just my opinion and taste.

If I had to make a comparison, I'd call the Pixel 6 Pro on par with Samsungs build quality, even though it falls behind Apples (flagship), like every non-Apple phone does. Their gap sizes between their stainless steel chassie and display still reigns supreme. Every edge there, well, just fits perfectly. It's that finish that is sorta present on the Pixel 6 Pro, but only sorta - which is still more than most other flagship phones can offer.

There is one hardware quality critic point that was voiced more than once and that is a gap between chassie/display and the top speaker. For some strange reason, I can't replicate that. I have no visible gap there. Maybe I am not looking the right way, maybe it is indeed a QA problem. Be sure to check that.

I'd say the only few serious problems as of now are

1. Random reboots
2. Yellowish tint (reported by several people, even though I personally e.g. do not have that problem)
3. Network connection
4. Throttle/heat after prolonged usage

At least three of those should be easily fixable by software, maybe even all of them. But be sure to check your phone, Google is afterall known for making phones with more than one hardware based problem.
 
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Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
the Oneplus 7 Pro has volume and power on opposite sides, as is others so dunno what your on lol
 

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    Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
    Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.
    Did you really own any OnePlus phones?
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    I've only had my Pixel 6 pro 256 cloudy white for one day so I haven't had much time so these are very, very initial impressions!

    This d*mn phone is slippery 😳, I've never been this scared without a phone case! Lol (it's on the way tho)

    Build Quality: 👍 I like it, I have no issues. Definitely looks nice. I'm not a curved screen fan yet I like this curved screen. Looks nice and no issues thus far. Love how you can't really even see the top speaker yet it's loud & clear.

    Sound: Sound quality & volume is Good. I will say its equally as loud as the pixel 4xl yet the sound is much clearer at its peak volume. Sound is balanced to me also.

    Battery: I honestly cannot provide a true assessment but I have no issues as of yet. I have everything on including 5g and it's on pace to last all day. I'm not having any crazy drain issues or worries.

    * Did I have to or need to upgrade... No, but I definitely like the phone so far. Oh and the screen does feel a tad hollow compared to my 4XL but definitely not an issue either.
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    so to add to this complaint thread, or whatever this is. i've had the phone since Nov 3rd. i have mostly all of the same issues except the color on the screen.

    1. the screen is just fine for me.
    2. the speakers are good, loud and has a decent balance between left and right when watching videos.
    3. the screen when tapped, yes sounds weird, almost hollow which is not a negative for me, just..... different.
    4. 5g.... crap, the best i have gotten is about 100mbps speed in one spot driving around and testing, not on the go but driving around 3 towns in different areas as i drive a bit everyday. and the average has been around 10mbps. then i switched to LTE and averaged around 20-30 down and 15 up and i just opened a new line for this phone, so new sim card and everything. on my oneplus 7pro i average 60-90 and 30-50 up on LTE everywhere i drive.
    5. finger scanner.... horrible, just no, tried all the tricks you guys mentioned and nothing improved. i can quickly scan my finger on the Oneplus 7Pro and it grabs my finger right away. with this, i just either re-scan or hold it longer which feels useless to have in the first place.

    now for the stuff i want to add and not sure if it has been mentioned as there are now 20 pages and dont feel like scanning through them all haha

    6. the bluetooth (tested with the new pixel buds and oneplus buds and other bluetooth earphones and such) is basically useless anything below 90% and only the last 4 clicks of volume are good in day time and even then it goes from
    4th click from max: feeling like 80% volume
    3rd from max: feeling like 90% volume
    2nd from max: feeling like 100% volume
    maxed out volume: WHY DO MY EARS HURT???

    7. i noticed the tap to wake works less then half the time, i turned off the lift to wake because when pulling out of my pocket i was sliding down the notification and toggling stuff ALL the damn time! it was super annoying, so i turned that off and turned on only tap to wake, but that dont even work well. i will tap, then tap tap, then tap tap tap tap, until i get annoyed and press the power button... oh the power button....

    8. the power button on mine, not sure if its defective, but you can only click on it if you press on it EXACTLY in the middle of the button, and then press slightly hard on it to actually press it in and it clicks. the volumes buttons are fine, just the power button needs to be pressed right in the middle and a bit harder compared to the volume buttons. -_-

    9. i noticed a "glitch", sometimes i will pull down the notification bar and there will be a black area between the toggles and the notifications. i will pull down again to see the toggles and then swipe up to go back to home screen but it will just go to a black screen, until i swipe up again and then i see the notifications. so im still in the notification area but in a black area of it. i can swipe down to see the toggles again or swipe up to see the notifications and then swipe up again to go to home screen or whatever app i was in. but this happens sometimes, its hard to replicate.

    oh oh just noticed another small complaint

    10. when double tapping a notification that i want to open, i HAVE to type in my pin to unlock so it goes to that app. with my OP7P i can double tap that notification to open it and go to it and it will just ask for my finger print, no pin needed. why do i have to type in the pin when the finger print is faster in this case??

    so those are my add-ons for now, again not sure if they have been mentioned or not
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    So about a week into having this phone and I've provided a couple updates. One thing I did was request a new SIM card from Verizon which I installed earlier today. My problem with network access appears to be much less of an issue now. The signal strength is showing much better than it has so that is one thing that you could try if you are on Verizon and are having problems with the signal strength.

    One thing that it didn't fix, and which I am perplexed about, is that I have still not received any update. I thought the SIM card change might make it available but still not there. I am not sure why this is and no response from Google about it.

    Ultimately, I am planning on keeping this phone. I haven't had the screen freeze glitch since Sunday night and can't see for sure what caused it. My battery life is doing quite well, maybe it is as I read where the phone has to kind of get used to your use of it. But after taking it off the charge this morning at about 7:30 and using it in my normal way, I am still at 81% about 9 hours later. This is much better than I had when I first started using it, and I truly believe it is a combination of turning off the 5G but also now with the updated SIM card that I put in this morning, maybe my phone is not searching as much for the network.

    For anyone who has still an order pending and they're contemplating whether or not to keep it, that is your own decision. There is a lot of opinions and thoughts on here but through it all the decision is really yours to make. With each phone there's always unique occurrences and for me I always put a screen protector on and keep a case as part of my daily use. So I don't really have concerns or problems with a spot in the center of the screen or the rounded edges or the glass on the back. Would I like a flat screen, yeah I guess but rounded edges are not giving me any problem so there's that. The only thing that would make me upgrade this phone in the coming years would be if they went back to the fingerprint sensor on the back. I just thought that was more ergonomically correct? And I just don't use the fingerprint sensor on the screen. Anyways, I keep the phone unlocked at my house when I'm working here and if I go out I use swipe or a PIN.

    Good luck to you all and thanks everybody for providing your insights and feedback.
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    I have to say the battery life on the 6Pro is amazing! I am on my third day now with 14% left. I use it no different than my old Galaxy S9+ which never lasted more than a day and a half. I think my gripe is more with Android 12 than the hardware. The OS is just gimmicky garbage and I don't understand the hype at all.
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    So 2 days in, some real life testing and me not liking. Here's why:
    1. Firstly, I noticed that the screen is yellowy, it's not pure white like you'd find from the S21 phones for example. It's minor but it bothers - like a niggling suspicious this phone can't manage the basics. White isn't white. Reality is overrated.
    2. Secondly, taking photos of white surfaces in darker rooms and white turns blue. I don't mean, faintly tinged, I mean blue!
    3. The phone is well balanced in the hand (unlike the S21U), however it feels very plasticy and cheaply built. Something about putting the power button above the volume rocker is not nice after 3 years with Samsung phones which are the other way around.
    4. So, the camera AI is good, photo's look on the surface to generally be good quality. Noise is well handled by the AI but zoom in and you seen there's a lots of smoothing on a minute level. This is the sole Pixel win over the S21U in my opinion.
    5. The 5G modem, ow god, this is awful. I know, because I have a Samsung with the same modem and good look having working connectivity where the 5G signal is sub par - the phone should drop 5G and revert to more reliable 4G but it doesn't. You just end up with a dead connection. Walk around and experience disconnection from your digital world.
    6. Why the feck can I not turn off 5G, I mean the preference option just isn't there. In no way. If your carriers 5G or 4G network flakes out, you are screwed. How dare you think of manually swapping to another technology to stay connected. Silly, stupid, user. Google (and your carrier) knows best... ergh
    7. VoLTE/4G calling seems flaky on some networks - EE UK - well, you can't. They blame Google, Google blame EE. Good luck with that.
    8. Make sure to cover your eyes when using the finger print reader in the dark too - it's optical/super cheap so it is the brightest light you'll ever see. I have notice one of my blood vessel is bit blocked. Great medical device. A++

    I really wanted to love the Pixel 6 Pro. I have lived with a sub par S21U for 9 months. I thought it was lots of marketting spin and less substance. I was wrong. I'm a Samsung fanboi forever now. They can throw me their *(£" and I'll happily lap it up after this massive disappointment.

    It'll improve with software updates. Just hold on. These are just the typical usual new problems.... yeah, after 5 years of hearing the same old crappy excuses by manufacturers, I think I'll go with my gut this time.

    Hey, Google, where's my refund?!
    I got my P6 Pro today and would like to add something to a few of your points

    1. My screen white is white, maybe your panel sucks?
    2. Jea, the blue tint is well known in low light shots. Also visible in several reviews. Many phones go yellowish, googles algorithms goes blueish.
    3. I actually prefer the power button above the volume rocker, so that's personal taste.
    4. The smoothing comes from the Super Rez Zoom algorithm
    5+6: Not sure if it's your provider, but I can set my preferred network, I can tell the phone to prefer either 5G, 4G, 3G or 2G.
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    my screen was yellow until i changed wallpaper settings to basic colour options and it became white.
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    Funny how people can view the same thing so differently but some of these are simply not true.

    You can change network type away from 5G, first thing I did.

    Samsung panels are absolutely not colour accurate to compare against.

    Some of the other things are subjective. Build quality I think is great, my unit is as well built as any Samsung, iphone or One Plus I have owned.
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    First impressions of this post - not great.
    The Samsung lover is strong in this one.
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    Lol that post about not turning off 5g! Seriously...look at what you can actually do before mentioning something so basic.
    Secondly power button location different to Samsung is not a fault it's a design choice and your preference. All my OnePlus phones had power above volume also.