first time flashing a rom questions

Natureboyhcg

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i read around for methods on flashing a rom. this is my first time .i did a back up with hpb backup and put hard spl 2 on my phone. from what i read sdcard is the best route to go . my question is do i need to erase everytihng off of my card before doing the rom? or can i leave it all there put the ruu file on there and get started ? maybe i should ask is there a tutorial to how to do the different methods?
a side note how do i know if a rom is friendly to changing the orientation when you slide for the keyboard
 

KK13

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i read around for methods on flashing a rom. this is my first time .i did a back up with hpb backup and put hard spl 2 on my phone. from what i read sdcard is the best route to go . my question is do i need to erase everytihng off of my card before doing the rom? or can i leave it all there put the ruu file on there and get started ? maybe i should ask is there a tutorial to how to do the different methods?
a side note how do i know if a rom is friendly to changing the orientation when you slide for the keyboard

No you don't have to take everything off the card. Make sure your card is 2gig or smaller and not SDHC. Here is a link to the instructions in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlash

As far as the keyboard orientation you could search in the rom's thread for any reference to it or just flash the rom and see for yourself. ;)
 

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No you don't have to take everything off the card. Make sure your card is 2gig or smaller and not SDHC. Here is a link to the instructions in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlash

As far as the keyboard orientation you could search in the rom's thread for any reference to it or just flash the rom and see for yourself. ;)
im confused, does the card need to be 2gb or smaller, not sdhc, to properly do hardspl or general. cause ive read the phone only supports 2gb or smaller microsd. but i have also seen the 16gb or 32gb thread, ive seen others saying about using larger than 2gb cards in their phones. im awaiting the delivery of my phone currently and i have a 4gb microsd i use in my htc excalibur i was planning on using. so im majorly confused as to if im going to be able to use it or not, or if i just need a 2gb to do the intial hardspl then ill be fine w/ my 4gb once i go to a cooked rom.
would greatly appreciate some clarity on this all from someone.
 

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WM05 and bootloader only support 2Gb or less though there is an sdhc patch for WM05.
WM06 had the patch to support SDHC cards from 4Gb up to 32Gb. WM6.1 and WM6.5 are also SDHC compliant.

You need a 2Gb or less sd card to flash an OS or different SPL as the bootloader only supports 2Gb or less. Its not upgradeable.

Now that everythings clear as mud,

Cheers...:D
 

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You could also pick up a 1 gig (or even a 512meg) card on the cheap to do your flashing, and use the 4 gig for your everyday storage in the phone. Then have the best of both worlds! :D
 

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im confused, does the card need to be 2gb or smaller, not sdhc, to properly do hardspl or general. cause ive read the phone only supports 2gb or smaller microsd. but i have also seen the 16gb or 32gb thread, ive seen others saying about using larger than 2gb cards in their phones. im awaiting the delivery of my phone currently and i have a 4gb microsd i use in my htc excalibur i was planning on using. so im majorly confused as to if im going to be able to use it or not, or if i just need a 2gb to do the intial hardspl then ill be fine w/ my 4gb once i go to a cooked rom.
would greatly appreciate some clarity on this all from someone.
You need a smaller than 2gig card for flashing. Everything else you can use your 4 gig card. (As Ultramag69 and Boog321 say) The original question was to do with flashing hardspl or roms only.
 

StefanHou

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You need a smaller than 2gig card for flashing. Everything else you can use your 4 gig card. (As Ultramag69 and Boog321 say) The original question was to do with flashing hardspl or roms only.
HardSPL only needed to install once, after that you can install whatever ROMs you like many times.
 

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Hi Ultramag

I have a problem installing with sdcard.
Have followed the Wiki, have discussed with you previously, Boog and anagarika still no solution. I have elaborated step by step what I did in separate thread.

Do you mind have a look and advise some?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316726&page=34

:eek:
Did you try formating the SD card on a desktop (or laptop) computer and not phone with Memaid?? Maybe that has something to do with it. Is it a 2gig card or less than 2 gig??
 

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As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.

But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.

Cheers...:D
 

KK13

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As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.

But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.

Cheers...:D
Onya dude .. you have a better way with words !! :)
 

StefanHou

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As KK13 said, try a pc to format the card as the steps are right.
Double check that the .nbh is named hermimg.nbh as I know of at least 2 people who named it herming.nbh, small mistake but a critical one.
Remove and insert the sd card then reboot to tri-colour screen. Might do something.

But I strongly recommend using the PC to format the sd card FAT32.

Cheers...:D
OK, will find SDconverter and try the suggestion, thx KK and Ultramag
 

zivkong

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*Newbie* Custom ROM Flashing Guide

Just follow the steps start from 1. Don't skip step unless it is an optional step.

PC Requirement: Windows XP, ActiveSync [Don't try to flash with Vista if you are new], 7zip Installed (Google it)

Connect your device to your computer and make sure the ActiveSync icon appeared on your phone before proceeding. 50% or above bettery is a must. Your phone won't charge when flashing.



1. HardSPL (A Big Big Must)
I asume you are using the original ROM from manufacture as HardSPL won't work with custom ROM.

Download HardSPL V7 from here. Unzip the whole things. Execute the "RUUWrapper" thing and select "Force Using SSPL". Check all the boxes in all the steps and continue with updates. Look at your phone and press "Yes" to everything that prompted. Then your phone will restart in Tri-Color mode [a.k.a bootloader] and start flashing HardSPL.

In this case if any errors appear on your computer screen before the update progress start, soft reset your phone, let it boot into Windows and start RUUWrapper again.

If error appear during flashing progress, then you might in deep hell. Try not to worry. Manually put your device into bootloader (Hold On/Off Btn + Left OK Btn, then push the soft-reset btn). Then start the RUUWrapper again.

End of the step you should see 'HardSPL 2.10Olipro' in bootloader mode.



2. Radio Flashing *Optional*
You can choose not to flash your Radio Stack if you satisfy with the existing. Additional, Radio Stack flashing is the main cause of device bricking (the death of your device)

Choose and download your Radio ROM here. Do some research about the Radio ROM that fits you and your country. Recommended the latest 1.56.70.11. Unpack everything and you will see something similar to HardSPL (RUUWrapper). Don't run RUUWrapper this time.

Let's do the safe way. Format your MicroSD card into FAT32 (Kill yourself if you don't know). Then copy the RUU_signed.nbh into your MicroSD. Then rename RUU_signed.nbh to hermimg.nbh. Put your MicroSD into you phone.

Manually put your phone into bootloader mode. Then a different screen with grey background should appear shortly. Press On/Off btn to start flashing. After the process done (it will tell you when it is done, don't try to judge yourself if you feels that 50% is done), soft-reset your phone.

During flashing, put your phone aside and enjoy your coffee. Don't touch it before it ends as this is dangerous. Don't ever fail radio flashing. Careful, careful and careful.

End of this step, you should see R 1.56.70.11 during Windows Boot.



3. Custom ROM Flashing
First, download Dopod 838 Stripped ROM. Then unpack it. Delete your previous hermimg.nbh in MicroSD which you use to flash Radio Stack. Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Dopod 838 Stripped ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE). This official ROM from Dopod is very important which need to be flashed before you flash your custom ROM.

Then the last step is get your custom ROM loaded. Download custom ROM from this forum (Recommended from TAI_sw or JoshKoss).

Then simply follow the steps in Dopod 838 Stripped ROM Flashing.
(Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Custom ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE).)

Yes. I have grammar mistakes. Sorry!
That's your ROM and don't expect every ROM is stable. You will see some bugs in Custom ROM. Post your bugs at their own thread.

Anything just PM me.

Thanks

-Ziv-
 
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StefanHou

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*Newbie* Custom ROM Flashing Guide

Just follow the steps start from 1. Don't skip step unless it is an optional step.

PC Requirement: Windows XP, ActiveSync [Don't try to flash with Vista if you are new], 7zip Installed (Google it)

Connect your device to your computer and make sure the ActiveSync icon appeared on your phone before proceeding. 50% or above bettery is a must. Your phone won't charge when flashing.



1. HardSPL (A Big Big Must)
I asume you are using the original ROM from manufacture as HardSPL won't work with custom ROM.

Download HardSPL V7 from here. Unzip the whole things. Execute the "RUUWrapper" thing and select "Force Using SSPL". Check all the boxes in all the steps and continue with updates. Look at your phone and press "Yes" to everything that prompted. Then your phone will restart in Tri-Color mode [a.k.a bootloader] and start flashing HardSPL.

In this case if any errors appear on your computer screen before the update progress start, soft reset your phone, let it boot into Windows and start RUUWrapper again.

If error appear during flashing progress, then you might in deep hell. Try not to worry. Manually put your device into bootloader (Hold On/Off Btn + Left OK Btn, then push the soft-reset btn). Then start the RUUWrapper again.

End of the step you should see 'HardSPL 2.10Olipro' in bootloader mode.



2. Radio Flashing *Optional*
You can choose not to flash your Radio Stack if you satisfy with the existing. Additional, Radio Stack flashing is the main cause of device bricking (the death of your device)

Choose and download your Radio ROM here. Do some research about the Radio ROM that fits you and your country. Recommended the latest 1.56.70.11. Unpack everything and you will see something similar to HardSPL (RUUWrapper). Don't run RUUWrapper this time.

Let's do the safe way. Format your MicroSD card into FAT32 (Kill yourself if you don't know). Then copy the RUU_signed.nbh into your MicroSD. Then rename RUU_signed.nbh to hermimg.nbh. Put your MicroSD into you phone.

Manually put your phone into bootloader mode. Then a different screen with grey background should appear shortly. Press On/Off btn to start flashing. After the process done (it will tell you when it is done, don't try to judge yourself if you feels that 50% is done), soft-reset your phone.

During flashing, put your phone aside and enjoy your coffee. Don't touch it before it ends as this is dangerous. Don't ever fail radio flashing. Careful, careful and careful.

End of this step, you should see R 1.56.70.11 during Windows Boot.



3. Custom ROM Flashing
First, download Dopod 838 Stripped ROM. Then unpack it. Delete your previous hermimg.nbh in MicroSD which you use to flash Radio Stack. Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Dopod 838 Stripped ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE). This official ROM from Dopod is very important which need to be flashed before you flash your custom ROM.

Then the last step is get your custom ROM loaded. Download custom ROM from this forum (Recommended from TAI_sw or JoshKoss).

Then simply follow the steps in Dopod 838 Stripped ROM Flashing.
(Then copy RUU_signed.nbh from Custom ROM to your MicroSD and rename it to hermimg.nbh. Put your device into booloader and start flashing like how you flash you radio rom. After it done, give your device a Hard-Reset (Hold Left + Right softkey and press Reset. Slide you keyboard then press R and SPACE).)

Yes. I have grammar mistakes. Sorry!
That's your ROM and don't expect every ROM is stable. You will see some bugs in Custom ROM. Post your bugs at their own thread.

Anything just PM me.

Thanks

-Ziv-
Hi Ziv

I have flashed over twenty or more cooked ROM, and they are successfully done through Active Sync. As you see in my signature, My IPL is 1.04 and my SPL is 2.10 Olipro.

I have also followed Ultramag and KK suggestion to format the SDCard using PC. And still stuck in bootloader (3 colors) and one more: it states 'Serial' in the bottom color (white).

I also bought the new 1GB SDCard, but the problem persit.

So, is there any other suggestion to try?
 

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Hi Ziv

I have flashed over twenty or more cooked ROM, and they are successfully done through Active Sync. As you see in my signature, My IPL is 1.04 and my SPL is 2.10 Olipro.

I have also followed Ultramag and KK suggestion to format the SDCard using PC. And still stuck in bootloader (3 colors) and one more: it states 'Serial' in the bottom color (white).

I also bought the new 1GB SDCard, but the problem persit.

So, is there any other suggestion to try?
Ultramag, KK13, Boog & Zocster
Have tested using SD Converter and formatted it with PC, still no use. In the boot loader screen, I stucked with 'Serial' in the white bar. Is this meaning something to you? Any other work around?
 

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Man, I don't have a clue. The only issue I ever encountered was thinking my card was formatted fat32 when it wasn't.

I think this is now beyond me.
 

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Ultramag, KK13, Boog & Zocster
Have tested using SD Converter and formatted it with PC, still no use. In the boot loader screen, I stucked with 'Serial' in the white bar. Is this meaning something to you? Any other work around?
Well now .. you've got me too. I have only had "serial" showing in the boot loader once and it was because I had the wrong sd card in with no HERMIMG file. Once I put the right one in with the file and reset the device it was ok. All I would suggest is to do a Hard reset and follow all the steps again one by one, triple checking everything. Maybe write everything you do down and post it back here. :confused:
 

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Also check your spelling of hermimg.nbh as a simple error will screw up everything...
Also put sd card in then reset to bootloader, hold in all the buttons - ok, power and reset with stylus, until the bootloader comes up.

Cheers...:D
 

StefanHou

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Well now .. you've got me too. I have only had "serial" showing in the boot loader once and it was because I had the wrong sd card in with no HERMIMG file. Once I put the right one in with the file and reset the device it was ok. All I would suggest is to do a Hard reset and follow all the steps again one by one, triple checking everything. Maybe write everything you do down and post it back here. :confused:
KK13, Boog and Ultramag

OK this is what I did last night:
1. Flashing to the shipped AT&T Stripped ROM
2. Having it reflashed with the HardSPL V7 (to ensure the file is non corrupted, I re-downloaded it from some links in some thread and check the file size, they are all the same :p)
3. Reformating my SD Card with PC for FAT32;
4. Copy the nbh file and rename it with HERMIMG.nbh (recheck three times and I think I get it right. btw, is there any different to write it in capital? :confused:);
5. Press OK and Power, then stick the reset button.
6. Go to the boot loader (with 'Serial' on ht white screen)

:eek: