[FIX] Pixel 3 QUSB_BULK_CID:xxxx_SN:xxxxxxxx

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Dheerajvirgo

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Oh wow this literally just happened to me today. I picked my phone up from my desk and checked my notifications, put it down and then picked it up 10 minutes later and it was completely bricked. This is what Device Manager shows:

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My phone was at 50-60%. I've tried everything. I guess next would be to let it die and see if it boots back up. I have some important data on this phone that wasn't backed up. I hope there's a fix :(.
did you got your phone fixed? what was the issue? my redmi note 10 is going through same
 

josevu

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f google, same thing happened to my wife pixel 3 xl, my pixel 4 xl cannot recognize the battery level, will never buy google things again
 

bdubbin16

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Pixel 4XL here... was hoping there was some sort of solution. I had plugged my phone in before it crashed. It was at about 60%... checked a few hours later and it was bricked with it showing up in Device Manager as stated in the thread subject.

If nothing happened when I plugged it into a PC I'd say, okay - it's dead... but because the PC recognizes it's not totally totaled I figure we collectively should be able to get these things out of dead mode (recognizing they're not just plain dead!) and be useful phones again.
 

AustraliaX

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Does anyone know f I'd able to keep all my files and data after I replaced the the motherboard? I plugged in my Pixel 4 XL to a PC but I could not see anything pop up in the device manager. Though the PC did play the usual chime when a USB device is plugged in. I am planning to replace the motherboard as replacing the battery did not help.

Thank you in advance.
 

cyang812

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I met this issue two years ago, my pixel 3 phone suddenly can't boot up. And I got it fixed in Shenzhen Huaqianbei where you can find anything related to electrical devices. I didn't lost any data after it got repaired. Four month later, the repaired phone suddenly bricked again during the night, and I got fixed one more time at the same store I went to with the same price. However, it dead again in 6 month and I left Shenzhen and can't fix it now. I deeply believe there is a way to fix it and without any data lost as what I did before.
 

oburt

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This just happened to me as well. Pixel 3, originally bought in 2018 so we had a decent run but still very frustrating for it to brick without warning. No relation to any update or any action, it was just sitting on the table when I went to use it and it was black and completely unresponsive. Checked the device status by connecting to my PC by USB and saw the same Other Device > QUSB.... designation, so assume it is the same issue as everyone else here. The only upside is thanks to this thread I didn't have to hesitate wondering if I should spend much time or effort trying to resurrect it and immediately went ahead shopping for a new phone.
 

gpixel3user123

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Adding myself to the list.

- Google Pixel 3 64GB
- Purchased Nov. 10, 2018 for $999.00 CAD ($1138.86 CAD w/tax)
- Received Nov. 16, 2018
- Stock operating system; no modifications
- Light use
- Phone started randomly rebooting the last few weeks but otherwise worked the same as normal
- Battery life was still good enough to last a whole day of use with battery saver on
- Lasted 4 years, 7 months, 3 days (1676 total days)
- Cost per day of use was $0.68 CAD

I am surprised there isn't a class action. It seems like an obvious design failure for a technology device to fail within 2 years for heavy users and within 5 years for light users.
 

emkorial

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Edit: DISCLAIMER: Just because this worked for me does not mean it will work for you. It is STUPID easy to blow off micro components, warp motherboards, or otherwise completely destroy electronics using a hot air station if you do not have experience with using them. Do not try this unless you are 100% comfortable turning your phones motherboard into a 100% irreparable piece of scrap.

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Has anyone tried reflowing the Micron chip? I've successfully repaired other devices (not phones) that failed due to cracked solder balls by reflowing them.

Edit : SUCCESS!! (as least as far as I was willing to take it)

I opened the phone, made up a little foil mask to protect the tiny components from getting blown off, set my hot air station to 350C, and removed the metal cover hiding the Micron chip (the CPU and some other chips are in there too)

I added liberal amounts of flux around the Micron chip and added heat until the solder balls remelted and it passed the nudge test. Yes I know this risks shorting out solder balls but I don't have a full BGA rework station and the phone was dead anyway so I couldn't break it more

Anyway got it to nudge and pull back in place, I let the board cool, reassembled it, plugged it in, and it booted right up. Couldn't believe it. No signs of anything every happening to the phone, worked just fine. I quickly copied off all my data

So if you have the tools/experience to try the reflow give it a shot, maybe it will work for you too. I would not trust the device to stay operational long term, if the BGA connections failed on one chip, they are likely failing on other chips, and oxidation can form in solder ball cracks and prevent a solid electrical connection even after a reflow so it wouldn't surprise me if the device randomly died again. I just wanted the data off I already moved on to another device, never buying a Pixel again. Screw multi billion dollar corporations using the cheapest parts and assemblers they can find to save a penny at the expense of users.
 
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gpixel3user123

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Thank you emkorial for the detailed post!

I tried a number of troubleshooting steps but alas has zero luck. My phone displayed a black screen with the message "Your device is corrupt. It can’t be trusted and may not work properly." before going into EDL mode so my issue is likely to do with the flash prematurely failing rather than a connection or other issue that can be solved by a simple "reflow".

Here is a list of steps I tried:

Basic troubleshooting:
- Attempting to charge via Google Pixel Stand (1st gen) and Google-provided USB-C cable.
- Pressing and holding the power button and volume down button for an extended period of time.
- Pressing and holding the power button and volume up button for an extended period of time.
- Pressing and holding the power button for an extended period of time.
- Attempting to drain the battery and power on the device using combinations of the above steps.

Advanced troubleshooting:
- Opening the phone and disconnecting the battery flex cable and charging assembly flex cable, waiting a few hours for capacitors to be fully discharged, reassembling the phone, and attempting the basic troubleshooting steps.
- Opening the phone, removing the motherboard (and removing the antenna cables from the motherboard), "reflowing" the motherboard in a toaster oven at 375F for 10 minutes, reassembling the phone, and attempting the basic troubleshooting steps.

Taking apart the phone was easier than I expected. I didn't have a fancy ifixit kit and instead resorted to a hair dryer (in place of the iOpener), cardboard (in place of picks), and fingernails (in place of a spudger). I did look for signs of water damage, battery bulging, and obvious component damage but didn't see anything. It does seem really easy to break the antenna cables and the earpiece speaker's flex cable when disassembling/reassembling the phone. I did end up breaking the earpiece speaker's flex cable on the second reassembly. If my troubleshooting had worked, I would have had to buy new adhesive for the back cover and the phone likely wouldn't have been water resistant anymore.

After the final reassembly, the phone still shows up as "QUSB_BULK_CID:xxxx_SN:xxxxxxxx" on a Windows 10 device so I have confirmation that I didn't fix the phone but also break it disassembling and reassembling.

For anyone reading this, if you have a couple hours of free time I do recommend disassembling the device and attempting the same steps as I did. At least you'll have some piece of mind that you tried everything and got some experience taking apart a phone.
 
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emkorial

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Thank you emkorial for the detailed post!

I tried a number of troubleshooting steps but alas has zero luck. My phone displayed a black screen with the message "Your device is corrupt. It can’t be trusted and may not work properly." before going into EDL mode so my issue is likely to do with the flash prematurely failing rather than a connection or other issue that can be solved by a simple "reflow".

The error seems to have to do with the phone not being able to access what it needs from the Micron chip. I'm not an Android dev, but from my reading, it seems the phone boots up, then tries to read something it needs from the flash memory chip, it can't, and as a result the phone dumps into EDL mode.

There are only really two scenarios why the device cannot access the contents of the flash memory chip, either the chip has failed (and if so there's nothing you can do about it) or the connection to the chip has failed (and that connection might be repairable). In my case it looked to be the latter since a reflow fixed it. But there is also no way of knowing if I just got lucky and my issue was connection related but everyone else is chip failure related.

I don't recommend "oven reflows", the only way to KNOW the solder balls have remelted is to nudge the chip and see it move then pull back into place via surface tension, and you obviously can't do that when the board is in an oven. Also without any air movement the transfer of heat is limited. You want to be blowing hot air on the chip, not sitting it in a hot environment. And even if the solder did melt, you would be reflowing every chip on the board at the same time with an incredibly high chance of causing a short among the BGA connections. My way of using a hot air station is already the wrong/dangerous way to do it, an oven is even moreso. With bigger chips that have larger BGA connections ovens can be OK (People do it a lot when reflowing chips in Flat Screen TV Control boards) but everything in a phone is miniaturized. That tiny little chip has 168 BGA connections on it.

None of your other steps really have anything to do with the Micron chip so I wouldn't expect them to make any difference.
 
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m_wali

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I am very certain Google is behind all this, I updated Google Keyboard app very recently and the phone started acting weirdly since then (I even reported it to the developer, and it is so unfortunate that we can't roll it back to the previous version if such a buggy update is sent to our phones).

Weird been to such a level that the keyboard typing would froze so I changed the default keyboard to another one offered by Microsoft temporarily. Used it for a day then switched back to default one that I updated and moments after that my POCO X3 Pro died, wont turn on, and completely unresponsive. And when connecting to computer it is showing the same QUSB_BULK_CID with some numbers as others have mentioned.

This is a def scam update offered by Google that completely made our phones useless when it had no physical damage of any sort or any sign of misuse like fire, water, lightning or heat exposure.
 

emkorial

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I am very certain Google is behind all this, I updated Google Keyboard app very recently and the phone started acting weirdly since then (I even reported it to the developer, and it is so unfortunate that we can't roll it back to the previous version if such a buggy update is sent to our phones).

Weird been to such a level that the keyboard typing would froze so I changed the default keyboard to another one offered by Microsoft temporarily. Used it for a day then switched back to default one that I updated and moments after that my POCO X3 Pro died, wont turn on, and completely unresponsive. And when connecting to computer it is showing the same QUSB_BULK_CID with some numbers as others have mentioned.

This is a def scam update offered by Google that completely made our phones useless when it had no physical damage of any sort or any sign of misuse like fire, water, lightning or heat exposure.

Doubtful this is a software issue. Everything points to the issue being caused by the phones inability to read from the Micron chip/flash memory, which is a hardware failure (this is also Google "official" response). It dying after changing an app is probably coincidental, but then again who really knows. There may be multiple things behind the failures.
 

HHigh

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can you guys also post your storage version ? maybe it can due to the 64GB version having a worse quality UFS chip ?
 

phoenixpb

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Hi guys , i don't know if it's serious or not but firehose files would be located in /data/misc/firehose

Only one problem you need Root access to copy them.

I can't test my pixel 3 xl is bricked
 

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    This issue happened to me a couple days ago, and I came across this thread. I happen to work at Google, so I spoke to some Pixel engineers.

    They ran some debugging tool and one of them has actually seen this exact issue before. It's a failure in the flash memory chip. They sent a device just like mine to Micron, a couple months ago, and the result was that the UFS is failing to initialise, likely due to having exhausted its natural lifetime of write cycles. The phone gets stuck in QDL mode because it's waiting for a broken chip to give a "wake" signal that will never come. So they can't even firehose it out if they wanted because the device simply cannot read anymore.

    Only Micron would have the tools to pull the data, but even if they did, it's encrypted with the PIN number PLUS the secret key in the Titan security chip, the latter of which can't be extracted. So RIP in peace.

    Phone flash memory chips are cheap because manufacturers expect you to replace device every 2-3 years and only lightly use storage. A high quality microSD card has much better write endurance. Alternatively, the less storage you use, the more free space is available to take hits and avoid total catastrophic failure. All drives actually hide some space from you in anticipation of blocks wearing out (kind of like EV batteries) - but setting a limit for yourself will give you a bigger runway, and also force you to improve backup discipline.
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    Hi everyone.

    I signed up for this forum just to tell you not to lose hope. Don't throw out/sell/recycle a bricked phone with your valuable data- here's my story:

    I left my Pixel 3 plugged in to a charger overnight back in Dec 2021, and when I picked it up the next morning it was powered off, had a black screen and was totally unresponsive to touches or the side buttons. Connecting it to my laptop I could see it was being reported as USB ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode).

    I couldn't connect to it with adb, access the bootloader, or get anything to appear on screen. I lost three weeks of irreplaceable photos of my 3-month-old baby that weren't backed up, among other things. I spent hours searching in vain for a solution, and marinated in anger for a full month before ordering a new phone and doing my best to move on.

    Tonight; a year and a day later, I randomly pulled out the Pixel 3 and plugged it into a charger. It was at 0% battery and flashed an indication of that on the screen. I tried to turn it on and it flashed the 0% indication again. After about 30 seconds I tried to turn it on again. This time I got the colorful google logo and then about 15 seconds later a progress bar below the logo, and then the phone just booted normally like nothing had ever happened. WHAT!?!

    All my photos were there and I began pulling stuff off with adb as fast as I could. Today it is identified as USB ID 18d1:4ee7 Google Inc.

    I'm overjoyed and so relieved as I never thought I would recover my photos and data.

    I have no idea if it will continue working, and in any case my trust in the device is shattered but I'm here sharing my happy ending as a data point for you all deciding what to do. Unfortunately I don't have any actionable advice other to than let it sit for a year.
    My phone bricked almost exactly 1 year ago. Plugged it in New Years Eve night, woke up the next morning to a dead phone. My search for a fix brought me here, I bookmarked and checked back in every few months to see if there was any progress.

    This post sparked my interest so I went ahead and plugged in my Pixel 3 this morning, not really expecting anything. Lo and behold I got the charging pic along with a 0% I let it sit for awhile until it got to about 75%. I held in the power button and the Google spun up and a minute later my phone was back. Like above a ran to my computer and copied everything over. I got it all and an hour later the phone is still up and running.

    So there is hope!! I suggest everyone give it one last try. It's been about 6 months since the last time I tried. I don't know what was different today, but it worked.
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    Happened to my unlocked, vanilla Pixel 3 (ordered 1/20/2019), in EDL mode and non responsive to any button combo, shows in device manager QUSB.

    I believe I was at the most recent version of 12, non-beta. Last night, I was in Play Store and updated Messages app to latest, along side a Carrier Update and some others (can not recall). I also uninstalled a selection of apps to free up space. This morning, I woke up to a bricked phone.

    I have been on Android 12 for a couple weeks, no issues until today. Curious about the Carrier Update (and/or possibly another one). As much as I am willing to believe this is some major neglect on Google's software... even possibly planned obsolescence, I have a feeling it (great source, I know!) that it may have to do with the flash storage reaching it's limits. Not trying to excuse, just searching for an explanation like us all.

    I have the device protection plan with Google Fi. Spoke with their support, the first go around we went through the obvious steps. I even sent a screenshot of the device showing up in device manager, including S/N. When that went no where, the support rep said we could skip the device repair and go straight to replacement. He mentioned that the replacement would be "with whatever they had in stock" and I had some hope of getting a new/refurb 4 or higher. Unfortunately, I got the replacement email and it was for the exact same model Pixel 3, storage and color, refurbished. I contacted support again, and asked to cancel my RMA as I did not want another Pixel 3. I also shared how this issue seems to be common, sent them the Google Issues link, and that Google needs to make the firehose file available to end users to allow them access to their phones stuck in EDL mode. The rep said there was nothing they could do. The RMA cancellation had to be raised to their next tier of support, and that I would be contacted via email by said support. Still awaiting that email as of this post. I will also broach the topic of making the firehose available to end users.

    I starred the issues tracker, since no more comments can be entered.

    I also filled out the class lawsuit form, any pressure is good so long as it ends in Google releasing these firehose files. Arbiration opt-out be damned, if it takes hold that will likely not have much weight in the matter (IANAL).
    Sorry to hear, don't blame u at all being rather pissed, I'm not happy either having a pix 3.

    One important thing though, the firehose would give us access in EDL mode, but **if** the problem is failed hardware, then there's nothing that could be done even with the firehose.

    That may be why google is approaching this as they are, they may prefer to leave this as a *mystery*, rather than have it be known as hardware failure. Additionally, I"ve read of this now starting to occur with the 4a and the 4.

    I'ts a pretty big mess really. I'm personally switching back to my LG preference for daily driver. Last thing I'd like to have happen is to need to make an emergency call or something, and find the device is dead.

    cheers
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    Sorry to necro this thread, but this literally just happened to me over night. Did anyone find any solutions or am I SOL?
    I was SOL. The 4a is nice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    This happened to my gf's 100% stock, Google Store bought, bootloader locked, Pixel 3XL in January. Unfortunately I searched and searched and found nothing else for the Pixels. Plenty of info on LG phones and I think even OnePlus but nothing to help my case specifically. I tried many random attempts at ADB and Fastboot commands... Nothing seemed to work and I set the phone down for a couple months...

    Then one random day in March I decided to plug the phone in to charge, by this time she was using my Pixel 3 because I bought the Pixel 5... The phone decided to turn on and show the Google logo and it actually booted up!!! So after thinking the display was busted somehow, it turned on long enough for me to factory reset the phone... As the phone was booting back up, the loading bar under the Google logo was moving for a couple of mins, then the screen went blank and I haven't been able to get it to turn on since March...

    I thought that if I left it alone and drained the battery all the way down like I did the first time, that it would turn on again once I plugged it in... Still no luck and I'm not giving up on this phone...


    So if someone finds out how to get this thing working, I can get it booted back up and maybe sell it or trade it in for the Pixel 6 in a couple of months... Thanks for the thread! Gives me hope that someone will eventually find a fix for this...


    In case anyone missed it because I read this entire thread, the display is certainly not busted, don't waste your time with Google telling you to replace the display...