Forcing streaming for notebook GPUs

[arcade16]

Has anyone tinkered with the GeForce experience INI files to try and force notebook GPU streaming?

As a gaming laptop user (GTX 680m GPU) I am trying to patiently wait for official Nvidia support, but I think a lot of people would love a way to force streaming.

Perhaps we could even force streaming for those with CPUs / GPUs not officially compatible but powerful nonetheless.

I plan on giving it a go tonight and will post any findings or results!

 

[SixSixSevenSeven]

Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.

 

[arcade16]

Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.

I understand that (perhaps I should have phrased my original post better). My aim is to force streaming for all keplar based GPUs that would be capable of streaming from a hardware point of view, but are currently disabled / unsupported by the GeForce experience software.

 

[SixSixSevenSeven]

I understand that (perhaps I should have phrased my original post better). My aim is to force streaming for all keplar based GPUs that would be capable of streaming from a hardware point of view, but are currently disabled / unsupported by the GeForce experience software.

I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).

 

[agrabren]

I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).

It's still a good effort, sometimes GFE is overly-aggressive on blocking people, IMHO.

 

[arcade16]

I can tell you that you haven't understood. Put simply: not all kerplar chips are equal. The mobile "cards" may be NVidia but lack the streaming technology GeForce Experience uses. Only the desktop cards do. The laptop cards for all intents and purposes might aswell be AMD cards because both lack the hardware required. Its not actually keplar itself that is used for streaming, graphics cards have alot more support hardware besides the main keplar core (in the case of NVidia).

Nvidia has stated that 660m+ GPUs are supported, but they want to begin the beta by testing desktop GPU streaming first. The purpose of this thread is forcing the streaming of those GPUs.

Any possible side effects of forcing the GeForce experience software to stream on unsupported hardware would just be icing on the cake.

 

[Faithinchaos21]

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Just thought I'd mention that with the wireless capability of Shield, it works a lot better on Splashtop Streamer than other tablets and phones I've tried. Looked pretty playable to me, though not as good as default. Plus you have the ability to play anywhere you want, though you do need the anywhere access subscription.

 

[jadengore]

Has anyone figured out the INI file thing? I have a capable GTX 680 but as agrabren and I have been corresponding about my Intel Xeons "do not meet minimum requirements."

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

 

[joejoe1234]

How do you configure the controller inputs when using splashtop?

Just thought I'd mention that with the wireless capability of Shield, it works a lot better on Splashtop Streamer than other tablets and phones I've tried. Looked pretty playable to me, though not as good as default. Plus you have the ability to play anywhere you want, though you do need the anywhere access subscription.

 

[winemonk]

Its nothing to do with GPU power. There is an actual hardware feature exclusive to NVidia cards which is not put into their mobile chipsets either. So AMD cards and laptops are not going to be streaming any time soon.

so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?

 

[glitchhawk]

so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?

they are still trying to figure out if the shield's framework can be ported to other devices. until then only the shield can stream.

 

[Faithinchaos21]

sneaky

How do you configure the controller inputs when using splashtop?

Well unfortunately you can't get the controller to work through that way exactly, but I found out a strange way for the keyboard to work and thus you could map a controller to that...if bluetooth works with splashtop that is.

It's weird, I have splashtop streamer running, and then plug my mouse and keyboard wireless stick into a usb2.0 to mini usb converter and then into my shield. Then while my shield recognizes it, everything works normal. I can even move my mouse on my PC's screen even though it's only plugged into Shield. So you could map those controls to a controller and maybe get it working through bluetooth, maybe a custom driver could get this working correct? I haven't tried a bluetooth controller yet as I don't have one. Anyway, you'd only really need to do this if you were away from home.

Otherwise, if your at home, you could just leave, for example, your xbox 360 wireless controller plugged into your PC and play in on shield's screen. Those 360 controllers have quite the range on them.

EDIT: disregard the confusion, obviously it should work like this since you are controlling through Shield your PC over wifi.....wow, still cool tho.

 

[kuhne]

so is it possible to use this feature with other android devices? or is there a hardware feature on the shield side thats also required?

As far as I know the reason why the experience works so well on the shield is because of its tegra 4 doing the decoding of the stream.

It shouldn't be THAT big of a deal and other android devices should be able to do a passable job but Im sure the tegra 4 in the shield will make the difference

 

[cgutman]

Has anyone figured out the INI file thing? I have a capable GTX 680 but as agrabren and I have been corresponding about my Intel Xeons "do not meet minimum requirements."

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.

I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).

Good luck!

EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real

 

[DrJinx]

I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.

I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).

Good luck!

EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real

This workaround works like a charm for anyone who has a CPU that is not supported, but has a CPU that is faster than the Streaming requirements.

As user cgutman states, your rig will still show up as "Not Ready", but look for the "Streaming" section in GFE preferences once the update has been applied.

Flawless!


I wish I could buy you a beer, cgutman.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Thanks cgutman

Dr Jinx gave me the heads up, thanks a lot cgutman, you saved me a lot of trouble getting CPUs that should work to actually work

 

[DrJinx]

From an NVIDIA Employee/Mod over at the SHIELD forum:
"After discussion, we have decided not to whitelist CPUs for streaming anymore. While we will still recommend CPUs as before, we will no longer disable streaming to SHIELD if your CPU is not part of the whitelist."

Post 17:
//forums.geforce.com/default/topic/571249/nvidia-shield/beta-streaming-my-amd-cpu-is-above-the-minimum-requirements-but-is-unsupported

 

[l_JC_l]

From an NVIDIA Employee/Mod over at the SHIELD forum:
"After discussion, we have decided not to whitelist CPUs for streaming anymore. While we will still recommend CPUs as before, we will no longer disable streaming to SHIELD if your CPU is not part of the whitelist."

Post 17:
//forums.geforce.com/default/topic/571249/nvidia-shield/beta-streaming-my-amd-cpu-is-above-the-minimum-requirements-but-is-unsupported

I'm get Q6600 and I have patch with this reg but my shield don't see my pc, anybody help me?

thanks and sorry for my bad english

 

[WilliamG]

I've been looking into this and while this didn't work for me on my 650M, it may circumvent your CPU problem. I've attached a zip with reg file inside for you to try. This disables the compatibility checks in NvStreamSvc.exe.

I've got a larger writeup of my findings in the thread: "A quest to stream from mobile Kepler" (admittedly I didn't see this thread before posting mine).

Good luck!

EDIT: You'll need to either restart the "NVIDIA Streamer Service" in services.msc or just reboot your machine after applying the reg file for the changes to take effect. This won't change what GFE says about your configuration, but GFE isn't the one actually doing the compatibility checks for real

I'm really tempted to buy a Shield. I have a 2012 iMac running Windows 7, with an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and 2GB Nvidia Geforce GTX 680MX, which is a pretty powerful card, all in all. Will your registry tweak allow the computer to stream to the Shield? I don't want the Shield unless it will work, you see!

Thank you in advance for any help!

 

[Character Zero]

I'm really tempted to buy a Shield. I have a 2012 iMac running Windows 7, with an i7 3770 3.4Ghz and 2GB Nvidia Geforce GTX 680MX, which is a pretty powerful card, all in all. Will your registry tweak allow the computer to stream to the Shield? I don't want the Shield unless it will work, you see!

Thank you in advance for any help!

You could start by installing Geforce Experience and see what it says about the ability to stream. I think with that card you should be able to stream.