From XDA & the Moderators What this New Forum Is

[oka1]

Here is Our new forum.

XDA, the moderators and the powers that be.... have been wrestling with trying to differentiate the Difference between the Code-writing Development and the Quasi-developers that use rom cooking tools or are just porting roms.

To that end we will be going through the development threads in the next couple of weeks and moving the appropriate threads that meet the original code requirement to be placed in this new forum.

Please bear in mind that this is a "Work in Progress" and will take a bit of time to hone and perfect what goes where.

Also, please understand that this does not mean that some developers are on some special pedestal. That is not the case.

I will use an analogy to explain:
A music composer writes an original piece of music. The music composition may be awesome... but his performance of it, may not.
Such often is the case in developers..... often someone comes up with a awesome idea or new code application, but it often ends up being perfected by the use of others putting their creative spin on it.
That is the beauty of The Android Platform and ....XDA provides a fertile field for all to share ideas and collectively improve our experience.

Additionally, we need to provide and track the proper credit to the original code writing Developer and better comply with the GPL requirements of Android......

I hope this clarifys the potential questions

Thanks from the Moderators

~~~ (oka1)~~~

 

[meethere]

I though this forum is for all the Samsung original/stock roms

 

[TheDeadCPU]

TL;DR version.

Stuff you've made. Pure AOSP ROM's you've built from sauce. Or a AOKP ROM you've buildt.
"Cooked" ROMs, like taking a TouchWiz ROM and just adding some APKs etc is not original developement.

 

[antiochasylum]

So does my Asylum ICS count as original? Since every version is built from source? And then modified to my liking?

 

[parthpatels007]

So does my Asylum ICS count as original? Since every version is built from source? And then modified to my liking?

AFAIK, Asylum will be considered as a cooked ROM with AOKP/CM9 as the base

 

[sujal]

Saw this sometime back in HOX forums and liked the idea. Glad it's here in Note's forums too. If not anything, it will make the development forum a less pain to search, at least it was for me. Now I can look up to the original ROMs here, and their derivatives in the other section. Cool enough!

 

[Kangal]

FIRRST!!!

Ah shoot!
Liking this idea, but it means an extra click for my daily routine, heh

This should be labelled "AOSP ROMs" and the other "TouchWizz ROMs" for better clarification.

 

[M3TALLICA]

Good to see a separate forum. Now it is well organized and less cluttered.

 

[nickshertzer]

AFAIK, Asylum will be considered as a cooked ROM with AOKP/CM9 as the base

IMHO - any ROM or kernel built from source should be in original development.

I mean, with parth's logic, CM9 isn't original development as it uses AOSP as base...

 

[Lizzo]

IMHO - any ROM or kernel built from source should be in original development.

I mean, with parth's logic, CM9 isn't original development as it uses AOSP as base...

^lol good point there :good:

 

[anonymous572]

Sorry, but your development forum separation is a pain in ass for me. I don't want to open two pages instead of one to see all news about ROMs. This is really stupid and uncomfortable. I don't care who made ROM and which way it's done. I just wan't to find ROM thread, and that's all!

 

[M3TALLICA]

Sorry, but your development forum separation is a pain in ass for me. I don't want to open two pages instead of one to see all news about ROMs.

Use your hands.

This is really stupid and uncomfortable. I don't care who made ROM and which way it's done. I just wan't to find ROM thread, and that's all!

This is how it should be. If you want only COOKED ROM THREADS go to the old Development Section.

 

[hagba]

This Forum is a very good idea as I know exactly where I will be heading now.

 

[darkoctavius]

Sorry, but your development forum separation is a pain in ass for me. I don't want to open two pages instead of one to see all news about ROMs. This is really stupid and uncomfortable. I don't care who made ROM and which way it's done. I just wan't to find ROM thread, and that's all!

+1 here, i think the developers and "porters" deserves the same credit, Developers for Develop new features and Porters to make speddy ROMs.

with this, new members can be confused (thinking that many do not read the rules and announcements)

Just my opinion...But the moderators has the decision

Cya

 

[aussiebum]

How do we request certain threads to be moved from Android Dev -> Original Android Dev and vice-versa? The few that have been put here appear to be a bit random...

eg. If GL_NOTECORE kernel is considered "original" dev, then why isn't the Goku kernel also here? Both of those are based off Speedmod K3-3 after all...

 

[kopitalk]

It is what it is. Let the mods do the job. I never lose my threads simply because I subscribe them under my favorite folders. Quite a smooth transition. I was not even aware some of the threads are moved here Now I know why there is separation in GT-I9100 sections.

 

[ThaiDai]

with this, new members can be confused (thinking that many do not read the rules and announcements)

New members get confused because they do not read. The number of subforums (5 or 6) won't add much of confusion.

I'm happy with this new structure. I got a little bit tired from too many innovative ROMs with tweaks, themes, addons and - my favorite - boot animations. Even Kernels start to spread (like clones of hardore's SpeedMod).

Now I start every morning with the OAD forum looking for real changes.

 

[Sine.]

Use your hands.

This is how it should be. If you want only COOKED ROM THREADS go to the old Development Section.

Couldn't agree more.

How do we request certain threads to be moved from Android Dev -> Original Android Dev and vice-versa? The few that have been put here appear to be a bit random...

If you know what you do, you can report them.

eg. If GL_NOTECORE kernel is considered "original" dev, then why isn't the Goku kernel also here? Both of those are based off Speedmod K3-3 after all...

Not really, GL_NOTECORE is based on Samsung source (with inspirations from hardcore and others), while Goku kernel is based specifically on SpeedMod kernel :

Introducing my custom built kernel for ICS Touchwiz ROMs​

Features:
- Built from HK ICS Opensource 1 (July 7th release)

funky81 presents Goku Kernel, a kernel based on hardcore masterpiece, SpeedMod Kernel OCS K3-3

 

[g.lewarne]

Actually, both my own and Funky81's kernel (Goku) are both built from source with original development.

We are simply applying a patch that hardcore made for the original code source release which address some issues that we would have had to address anyway. there is no point in re-inventing the wheel. In my latest releases built from the newer source I am not even applying hardcores patch, just grabbing a few alterations that were made so the code compiles properly.

In fact, both of our kernels are vastly different from Hardcore's in respect to what we are trying to achieve with them. I am going for all out speed, and had to devise my own code (and follow the horrendously awful Exynos4 for developers manual from Samsung) to inject the correct overclocking PLL and register values into the code. This is not something that Hardcore, or anyone else apart from Thor (for cm9) has done with the kernel.

funky has made lots of alterations too, so neither of our kernels can really be called "speedmod clones" and to do so, without reading at the very least the OP of each thread and understanding what is being said, is a little disrespectful.

To follow another analogy along the lines of oka1's from the OP

If speedmod is building the basic car, Funky81 and myself are designing the turbo, exhaust system, air intake and tuning the ECU and packaging it all together. Both are as important as each other and both are original.

 

[Sine.]

Thanks for your explainations. (out of thx for today)