From XDA & the Moderators What this New Forum Is

[azzledazzle]

i thank him on your behalf

 

[reinbeau]

Thread cleaned

Gentlemen, the topic is Note Original Android Development, not the XDA app.

 

[baz77]

wondered where they went,
one enhancement tip why not make a cooking section for derivatives and a true development for original/sources
edit; rereading my comment, its already like that, I meant call it that way

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[altae]

Why can't I access the new forum with tapatalk/ xda app? Is this planned to be fixed any time soon?

 

[kitrax59]

Why can't I access the new forum with tapatalk/ xda app? Is this planned to be fixed any time soon?

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[alekhkhanna]

Why can't I access the new forum with tapatalk/ xda app? Is this planned to be fixed any time soon?

LOL. I posted the same and my post was deleted !

 

[Higgsy]

Don't see the point in 2 different threads for development, its all development in one way or another, I think most members are clued up enough to be able to differentiate between what is original development and what is not.

 

[altae]

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It's even simpler than that. It's enough to browse the full list with all devices and select the note forum instead of using the shortcut regular visitors might have stored as a favourite. This way the new original development forum is shown. Replace the old shortcut with a new one and you are done.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

 

[BeeGee_Tokyo]

Don't get it

I build my ROM from CM9 and Android sources. I change the source code in some apps and add/delete some apps to make my ROM unique.

So what is it now?
Android Development (because based on CM source)
Original Android Development (because I build from source and make my changes in the source code)
????

Confused.

 

[cook]

Very bad idea

This difference original / not original is meaningless for a open source software.

This principle of open source is everybody can freely modify and improve code from others so nobody, never, build something "original" because nobody build from scratch "blank page"

If want categorize, category like kernels / ROM TW / ROM non-TW sould be better I think.

I believe most people will say "very good Idea" because come from moderator and most of people like to put cream of people with some special "power" human being is like that.

But not. it's bad idea.

It will be impossible to decide which one is original which is not. And impossible to guess for visitors.

 

[Rocheau]

Not a good idea, INMHO. So, what do you expect making like that? Most people comes here looking for a ROM to install in their phone ( expecting to improve from stock) , in this case in their Galaxy Note, and they do not know the differences between an original development ( what is original?) or not original or at least, they do not care about it. So to split the forum in two sides for the same thing - from the users point of view) just make more difficult to do what it was simple before.

It seems to me that you have only applied the developer point of view, and not the user p. of view.

 

[Sine.]

Not a good idea, INMHO. So, what do you expect making like that? Most people comes here looking for a ROM to install in their phone ( expecting to improve from stock) , in this case in their Galaxy Note, and they do not know the differences between an original development ( what is original?) or not original or at least, they do not care about it. So to split the forum in two sides for the same thing - from the users point of view) just make more difficult to do what it was simple before.

It seems to me that you have only applied the developer point of view, and not the user p. of view.

This is XDA-Developpers, not XDA-Consumers.

 

[reinbeau]

This is XDA-Developpers, not XDA-Consumers.

Precisely. Anyone who believes otherwise is in for a very bad experience here on XDA. Not a threat, just a fact.


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[clandestino123]

I'm not sure why the thread "stock kernel for N7000" is in this forum?

 

[Sine.]

I'm not sure why the thread "stock kernel for N7000" is in this forum?

Rules to Posting in this forum :

This Forum is meant for the newest/latest roms .....e.g. AOSP, CM, or AOKP source builds. Kernels from factory source also can be posted here.
If you are porting a rom, it belongs in the normal development section, not here.
Stock roms should also be placed here The ones from Samsung themselves as in new versions, new updated versions can go here as well. Not ones you jacked, cooked or modified..... those go in the other regular development section.

Also, Roms an Kernels that bring forth something new in coding ideas or revolutionary changes that other roms do not have should also be posted here...

 

[altae]

I'm also not really impressed by the logic of the new structure. If it's necessary to split up the development forum why not according to subjects? E. g. a forum for kernels, one for roms, one for mods... this would be far more logical than the current solution. For example, why is the goku kernel in development and notecore and speedmod are in original development? Or the stock rom thread, what is "original development" about this thread? It's nothing more than a collection of stock roms. If that's "real" development I'm a developer to, I'm perfectly able to download roms from sammobile.com and post them here But it's not my forum/ website so I cannot do anything more than express my opinion. If the powers to be don't agree that's ok.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

 

[cuba462]

good idea

Here is Our new forum.

XDA, the moderators and the powers that be.... have been wrestling with trying to differentiate the Difference between the Code-writing Development and the Quasi-developers that use rom cooking tools or are just porting roms.

To that end we will be going through the development threads in the next couple of weeks and moving the appropriate threads that meet the original code requirement to be placed in this new forum.

Please bear in mind that this is a "Work in Progress" and will take a bit of time to hone and perfect what goes where.

Also, please understand that this does not mean that some developers are on some special pedestal. That is not the case.

I will use an analogy to explain:
A music composer writes an original piece of music. The music composition may be awesome... but his performance of it, may not.
Such often is the case in developers..... often someone comes up with a awesome idea or new code application, but it often ends up being perfected by the use of others putting their creative spin on it.
That is the beauty of The Android Platform and ....XDA provides a fertile field for all to share ideas and collectively improve our experience.

Additionally, we need to provide and track the proper credit to the original code writing Developer and better comply with the GPL requirements of Android......

I hope this clarifys the potential questions

Thanks from the Moderators

~~~ (oka1)~~~

it's a good and sane idea

 

[sbnaul]

Shouldnt Franco's kernel be here ???

 

[cook]

I'm also not really impressed by the logic of the new structure. If it's necessary to split up the development forum why not according to subjects? E. g. a forum for kernels, one for roms, one for mods... this would be far more logical than the current solution. For example, why is the goku kernel in development and notecore and speedmod are in original development? Or the stock rom thread, what is "original development" about this thread? It's nothing more than a collection of stock roms. If that's "real" development I'm a developer to, I'm perfectly able to download roms from sammobile.com and post them here But it's not my forum/ website so I cannot do anything more than express my opinion. If the powers to be don't agree that's ok.

Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

I posted exactly same opinion here. My post was deleted. Seems only post say "good idea" are allowed.

 

[icl0udn3t]

i will do my best to read more than i ask ^_^