FroyoSense Defy edition (progress report) (new: youtube video)

[Dexter_nlb]

Preview of Defy running Sense 2.0 (android 2.2)

I will probably get a DEFY soon, and am thinking of porting my milestone release of MotoFroyoSense for this model..

so the question is, if there is any interest in having Sense on DEFY?

it will probably lack the Bluetooth functionality, as the handling is too hard to port for milestone hardware. but otherwise check the milestone thread, you get more details there...

I guess the Rosie launcher reload totally dissappear here, when we got 512MB memory to work with, which should help out.

i don't know partition sizes, so how much space is free on the different partitions depends on the layout, Sense was a 400MB+ release on htc desire Z

update: 23-jan-2011
I got hold of a defy, and managed so far to get it ported, so phone + wifi works...
its based on the 2.2 kernel (chinese kernel) + HTC DesireZ
ill keep this updated until its ready for release...
update: 23-jan-2011 update2
I read that defy do not normally get 2000+ in quadrant scores, so i thought i would make a brief preview of the startup + really quick slider of menu + benchmarking.

 

[cloogshizer]

My guess is that it would make many people happy (although personally I need bluetooth).

On http://simply-android.com/ HandlerExploit published this partition table:

major minor #blocks name alias

 179       32    1912832 mmcblk1	
 179       33        128 mmcblk1p1	unknown (mbr? mbmloader?)
 179       34        512 mmcblk1p2	unknown (mbm?)
 179       35        512 mmcblk1p3	unknown (mbmbackup?)
 179       36          1 mmcblk1p4	unknown
 179       37        512 mmcblk1p5	unknown (bploader? ebr?)
 179       38        512 mmcblk1p6	unknown (cdt?)
 179       39       4096 mmcblk1p7	pds
 179       40        512 mmcblk1p8	lbl
 179       41        512 mmcblk1p9	lbl_backup
 179       42       1024 mmcblk1p10	logo
 179       43       2048 mmcblk1p11	sp
 179       44        512 mmcblk1p12	devtree
 179       45        512 mmcblk1p13	devtree_backup
 179       46       4096 mmcblk1p14	bpsw
 179       47       8192 mmcblk1p15	boot
 179       48       8192 mmcblk1p16	recovery
 179       49      14336 mmcblk1p17	cdrom
 179       50        512 mmcblk1p18	misc
 179       51        512 mmcblk1p19	cid
 179       52       4096 mmcblk1p20	kpanic
 179       53     334848 mmcblk1p21	system
 179       54        512 mmcblk1p22	prek
 179       55        512 mmcblk1p23	pkbackup
 179       56     204800 mmcblk1p24	cache
 179       57    1319936 mmcblk1p25	userdata
 179        0   15558144 mmcblk0	
 179        1   15557120 mmcblk0p1

Maybe it is of use.

 

[HiDef]

Sense on defy would be awesome. Hope that you will do the trick and port it, and i think many other people would appreciate this too.

 

[Simplestas]

That will be insanely good if it ever works stable. Very interested in having more languages too.

 

[Dexter_nlb]

That will be insanely good if it ever works stable. Very interested in having more languages too.

- so defy suffers the same problem as milestone stock fw? only uk, france, etc? 4-5 langs?
- what about radio/baseband drivers, are those also an issue for users? would one image require patching with different baseband drivers? (havent followed defy threads much yet)

anyways ill find out in a weeks time i think...

When i got something stable running, ill probably post it, if i find it acceptable..

 

[chaihg]

Great news. Keep us posted.

Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

 

[Higgsy]

Sense on the defy is not for me, but any new Dev on the scene is good

 

[cmstlist]

I don't have a Defy either but the essentials I can glean are:

- The same folder on the Milestone and Defy is responsible for whether the 3G bands match the hardware or not. There is a "3GFix" floating around that aligns the device either with the radio files from an 850/AWS/2100 or 900/2100 Defy as appropriate, and can be used after flashing with a "wrong-radio" SBF.
- There is a nandroid backup now floating around which corresponds to the Chinese 2.2 firmware - however it's highly Blurred and de-Googled (kind of the opposite of what everyone seems to want around here!). In any case, this provides you with a 2.2 kernel to work around.

I think that FroyoSense for Defy would be great - *but* - what many people here would love to see first is a fully functional, de-Blurred, properly-Googled 2.2 ROM. Either as close to stock as possible, or Cyanogen-style, or maybe even "NinjaBlur" since it's relatively unobtrusive. If you can perfect that first, you'll get a lot of gratitude I'm sure =)

 

[DunkDream]

Would love Sense runnin' on the Defy.

Will Sensen then work properly on the Defy? I mean without jerking etc?

Sense is by far the best Android interface!

 

[Dexter_nlb]

I think that FroyoSense for Defy would be great - *but* - what many people here would love to see first is a fully functional, de-Blurred, properly-Googled 2.2 ROM. Either as close to stock as possible, or Cyanogen-style, or maybe even "NinjaBlur" since it's relatively unobtrusive. If you can perfect that first, you'll get a lot of gratitude I'm sure =)

? don't defy come with a 2.2 kernel and MotoBlur? i must read up on the defy.. i thought defy kernel and Blur was similar to the Milestone2 edition?

but making a clean google edition from droid phone should be an easy one?

I think i will first try out my goal, which is sense (dare not say the easy ones like stock android is no fun )

Will Sensen then work properly on the Defy? I mean without jerking etc?

read my MotoFroyoSense thread. I think becides BT, it was a nice port, if you ignore the rosie reload that was a major due to only 256MB memory.

 

[lilaznfoo21]

Can you keep the music player on the stock moto defy? that would be great

 

[cmstlist]

? don't defy come with a 2.2 kernel and MotoBlur? i must read up on the defy.. i thought defy kernel and Blur was similar to the Milestone2 edition?

but making a clean google edition from droid phone should be an easy one?

I think i will first try out my goal, which is sense (dare not say the easy ones like stock android is no fun )



read my MotoFroyoSense thread. I think becides BT, it was a nice port, if you ignore the rosie reload that was a major due to only 256MB memory.

The Defy comes with only 2.1 Eclair (plus Blur)! The only version that has been released with 2.2 so far is in China but that ROM is pretty messed up.

 

[Dexter_nlb]

The Defy comes with only 2.1 Eclair (plus Blur)! The only version that has been released with 2.2 so far is in China but that ROM is pretty messed up.

thanks, i am surprised to hear that.. ill check it out when i have it..

 

[cmstlist]

Yeah, it seems that Motorola doesn't take this phone very seriously...

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

 

[demolition23]

If this phone have support from Motorola, will be a killer device!!
The truth is that the support will never come..
We have to find a way to unlock completely this device.

Sent from my MOTO Defy

 

[Dexter_nlb]

We have to find a way to unlock completely this device.

based on my 1yr with milestone + hearing all ms users discuss it, i doubt it will ever come true, as the locking mechanism is in the hardware and needs physical board changes to break the fuse.
unless the RSA key is found found this one as its currently been running on milestone to find the key, but when is the q.

 

[strahlstrom]

And the US Droid doesnt have this locking mechanism in the hardware?

 

[Dexter_nlb]

And the US Droid doesnt have this locking mechanism in the hardware?

no. RSA is disabled and fuse is not enabled.
i think it had to do with Google was too quick getting the model out on the market.

 

[demolition23]

How is capable and brave enough ??

http://www.uchobby.com/index.php/2007/05/05/read-embedded-flash-chips/

 

[Dexter_nlb]

How is capable and brave enough ??

http://www.uchobby.com/index.php/2007/05/05/read-embedded-flash-chips/

as i understand the IRC discussions, its not in the nand they need to fix anything in, its the omap chipset which offers the protection, so writing to the nand is not an issue, but writing the right encryption key is.