Frustrated Nexus One owner sues Google over "sporadic" 3G speed

[cmarti]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-owner-sues-google-over-sporadic-3g-speed.ars

 

[Blueman101]

whats with the link?

 

[Jack_R1]

Google search helped:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-owner-sues-google-over-sporadic-3g-speed.ars

Well, if such claim was submitted in a normal jurisdictional system, he'd have his ass kicked out of the court and pay Google instead. In US, though, with McDonalds coffee case and the likes, he might even have a chance.

 

[khaytsus]

Gotta love the pentiles, and the fact that this moron paid all those fees rather than getting subsidized by TMobile. And the whole thing is rediculous, did anyone sue TMobile when they were selling the "TMobile 3G" when there was no 3G available on TMobile?

I hope this guy pays thousands of dollars of legal fees and the first judge throws it in the shredder.

 

[JanetPanic]

Google search helped:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-owner-sues-google-over-sporadic-3g-speed.ars

Well, if such claim was submitted in a normal jurisdictional system, he'd have his ass kicked out of the court and pay Google instead. In US, though, with McDonalds coffee case and the likes, he might even have a chance.

Off topic I realize but, while there are many incidents of frivolous lawsuits in the U.S., Liebeck vs McDonald's should not be the poster child for them. I honestly question the reasonableness of the settlement in the suit and the percent that McDonald's was found at fault for but it was definitely a reasonable case to take to court given the evidence.

From what I have heard FL is pretty bad for 3G coverage on T-Mo outside of a couple of large cities. Making this a class action lawsuit is a bold move though considering he will have to prove his problems are representative of the class (Nexus 1 owners). I do believe that people have problems with the 3G on the Nexus 1, myself included, but not to the extent that this gentleman claims and even then the problems of some are not necessarily representative of the class.

 

[danger-rat]

Gotta love the pentiles, and the fact that this moron paid all those fees rather than getting subsidized by TMobile. And the whole thing is rediculous, did anyone sue TMobile when they were selling the "TMobile 3G" when there was no 3G available on TMobile?

I hope this guy pays thousands of dollars of legal fees and the first judge throws it in the shredder.

The T-Mo subsidized actually costs more...
If you go subsidized you have to sign a 2 year contract. If you go month by month, it's $20 less a month, which is $480 over 2 years, and then there's tax on top...

Still, it is ridiculous!

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

 

[cmarti]

I happen to live in Orlando, Florida and the 3G speed here is better than the Att and Sprint even on 4G. And I have tested in different zones and see my signature as proof this guy has to be a retarded with no other thing to do or he lives in the woods.

 

[khook1061]

I have to agree with you I live in Miami Beach FL and my T-Mobile 3G service is better then my family's AT&T 3G

 

[stuff]

The T-Mo subsidized actually costs more...
If you go subsidized you have to sign a 2 year contract. If you go month by month, it's $20 less a month, which is $480 over 2 years, and then there's tax on top...

Still, it is ridiculous!

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

So are you telling me that if you didn't have subsidized you wouldn't have a monthly bill from t-mobile?

 

[danger-rat]

So are you telling me that if you didn't have subsidized you wouldn't have a monthly bill from t-mobile?

No?
But I guess it depends on the plan. I have unlimited voice and data, which costs less on a monthly plan than a contract...

My point being, just because someone paid full price for a phone doesn't mean they made a bad choice...

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

 

[nexusdue]

I agree with the person filing the lawsuit - reception on the Nexus One is definitely worse than on other phones.
Holding companies accountable is definitely a WIN for consumers.
I hope this class action lawsuit and the one for the iphone 4 go all the way an make companies think twice about selling crappy phones to consumers.

 

[klp45]

I hope he wins. The Nexus one is a very good phone but 3g is an issue for some, myself included. If you're not affected consider yourself lucky.

 

[erikiksaz]

I might as well sue ferarri because my potholed streets don't allow my ferarri to exceed 150mph

 

[denimjunkie82]

I might as well sue ferarri because my potholed streets don't allow my ferarri to exceed 150mph

thats a good one.

 

[incredulous]

I might as well sue ferarri because my potholed streets don't allow my ferarri to exceed 150mph

Thats not Ferarris fault though is it.
Where as the weaker antenna on the Nexus One is Google/HTCs fault.

In places where I used to get 4 bars on my Magic, I now only get 2 or 3 on my N1.

 

[Jack_R1]

Thats not Ferarris fault though is it.
Where as the weaker antenna on the Nexus One is Google/HTCs fault.

In places where I used to get 4 bars on my Magic, I now only get 2 or 3 on my N1.

And the bars represent what measure exactly? Did you compare reception values? I can bet you that there won't be lab results proving any significant reception faults in comparison with any other phone.
And how exactly lack of proper 3G coverage is Google's fault? Just like the bumpy streets are Ferrari's fault? Ferrari is also marketed as "super-fast experience", the analogy is perfect.

 

[khaytsus]

OMG FIVE BARZ! MOAR BARZ!

I seem to recall seeing a few phones at one point that had 6-7 bars, I bet their reception was STELLAR. I mean, that's two more bars than 5!

Have I seen my Nexus One data connection get stuck? Sure.. 5-6 times at least.... The indication being that it's trying to send data up, but it's not working, so the up arrow just stays there. After ~30s it'll typically stop for a second then it's fine. Once or twice I've gone into airplane mode, but probably could have just waited a bit longer.

I get varied 3G speeds here, both up and down. 3-4 down, 1-2 up. Sometimes it's 500k down. Guess what; I'm in the mall and AT&T decided to blanket the gigantic mall here in town with ONE HUGE TOWER rather than microcells.

Are there going to be hardware problems or possibly even software/radio problems with specific areas? Of course.

Or maybe I'm just "lucky". I'd rather be born lucky than good looking, as they say.

 

[JHaste]

/facepalm... this guy prolly doesnt know **** about the phone...


there have been multiple software updates... how many different radio's are there out there? please... this will never go anywhere and it could be a tmobile problem anyway...

some things he has to prove that its a phone issue and not a network issue; that the results are the same regardless where he is at; that google never made any effort to fix the issue (which they did with multiple radio updates)...

 

[bofslime]

This is either a cash grab or the guy is clueless.

I live in Orlando and the T-Mobile service here is simply excellent, in fact its better than Sprint and AT&T in both speed and coverage. I can't tell you how many times I've let my buddy use my Nexus because his iPhone was having issues. My old house in Oviedo (east Orlando) was a complete dead zone on sprint, switched to Tmo and it was fine.

HSPA+ roll out has been fantastic here, I get 2-5Mbit+ all over the city, I'm never without signal and never once has Tmobile messed up on my billing (I had almost constant issues with Sprint, and everyone I know with Sprint has at least had 1 issue.).

Signal between my ADP1 (G1) and N1 was identical at both home and work, and this only improved as updates rolled out.

Bottom line, tmobile services in Orlando are as good as it gets anywhere, and on any carrier, if not better than.

 

[incredulous]

And the bars represent what measure exactly? Did you compare reception values? I can bet you that there won't be lab results proving any significant reception faults in comparison with any other phone.
And how exactly lack of proper 3G coverage is Google's fault? Just like the bumpy streets are Ferrari's fault? Ferrari is also marketed as "super-fast experience", the analogy is perfect.

My point is that HTC have a radio and build that can give me 4 bars of GSM and in some parts of my house 2 bars of 3G. Thats on my Magic.

On the N1 in the exact same places, I only have 3 bars on GSM and struggle to a bar on 3G.

Nothing to do with the networks signal. The signal is there, the radio/antenna in the N1 is just not as strong.


In the Ferrari example. It is the other way round, Ferrari make a car that can go 180mph, but your local council/highways agency are not doing enough to keep the roads smooth.

The reason Google and HTC would be in the wrong is because they claim it to be better but is in fact weaker.

I still wouldn't be a douche and take them to court over it, you gotta have no life for it to actually bother you that much.