Fuschia OS for OG Pixel

[NoobInToto]

Hi fellow xdains. I was wondering if any developer would build fuschia OS for our phone. If any Dev can comment on the feasibility of development ATM, and related info would be great.

Your thoughts?

 

[n00bpwner]

i would have to guess no considering nobody will unlock the bootloader for the verizon variant. i really don't see a major port like this coming.

 

[GuestK0037]

Hi fellow xdains. I was wondering if any developer would build fuschia OS for our phone. If any Dev can comment on the feasibility of development ATM, and related info would be great.

Your thoughts?

I can comment. Fuschia OS is a toy and not a fully baked OS.

it would be rather useless on your phone. it's pretty much a demo, with no real applications that only recently could even run on bare metal / real hardware... it can run on the pixelbook (which is an x86 intel cpu laptop) and a few other devices...

it doesn't tun on our phone and you wouldn't want to run it, even if it did - unless you aren't interested in being able to make phone calls, browse the internet or do just about anything that you would normally need or want to do. lol

go watch some YouTube videos on it. you'll see for yourself that it's currently pretty useless...

I hope it fails hard, personally. I believe Google's biggest motivation for developing fuschia OS has more to do with licensing and wanting more control than anything else...

it's still an interesting project, but I can guarantee you, if it ever replaces android or chromeOS - your google device is going to be locked down compared to what it is now.

 

[NoobInToto]

I can comment. Fuschia OS is a toy and not a fully baked OS.

it would be rather useless on your phone. it's pretty much a demo, with no real applications that only recently could even run on bare metal / real hardware... it can run on the pixelbook (which is an x86 intel cpu laptop) and a few other devices...

it doesn't tun on our phone and you wouldn't want to run it, even if it did - unless you aren't interested in being able to make phone calls, browse the internet or do just about anything that you would normally need or want to do. lol

go watch some YouTube videos on it. you'll see for yourself that it's currently pretty useless...

I hope it fails hard, personally. I believe Google's biggest motivation for developing fuschia OS has more to do with licensing and wanting more control than anything else...

it's still an interesting project, but I can guarantee you, if it ever replaces android or chromeOS - your google device is going to be locked down compared to what it is now.

I agree with you, but since pixel, google has been moving more and more towards locking more things up. At some point it will be like iOS I guess.

 

[GuestK0037]

I agree with you, but since pixel, google has been moving more and more towards locking more things up. At some point it will be like iOS I guess.

how so? what is more locked up since the Pixel?

google has always had their closed source apps and services, but beyond that the pixel is far more open than most android phones I've owned... there are security enhancements, but i don't see that as being locked up... so i'm not sure what ur talking about, in this regard.

the source code for the pixel is included in AOSP, google and the vast majority of retailers sell pixels with OEM unlocking, etc... it's just crappy carriers like Verizon that don't...

I think fuschia OS could be a sign of them going more in the direction of a permissive or more contolled and closed platform, but i'm not sure they'll be able to get it off the ground (many google projects fail or they drop them)...

I don't think the pixel is very closed or locked down though.

 

[NoobInToto]

how so? what is more locked up since the Pixel?

google has always had their closed source apps and services, but beyond that the pixel is far more open than most android phones I've owned... there are security enhancements, but i don't see that as being locked up... so i'm not sure what ur talking about, in this regard.

the source code for the pixel is included in AOSP, google and the vast majority of retailers sell pixels with OEM unlocking, etc... it's just crappy carriers like Verizon that don't...

I think fuschia OS could be a sign of them going more in the direction of a permissive or more contolled and closed platform, but i'm not sure they'll be able to get it off the ground (many google projects fail or they drop them)...

I don't think the pixel is very closed or locked down though.

I'm no expert in this ,but I believe with pixel, google moved away a bit from aosp. It introduced more proprietary elements?
Usage wise I am not bothered with it. I'm happy with stock roms, I quit customizing.

 

[GuestK0037]

I'm no expert in this ,but I believe with pixel, google moved away a bit from aosp. It introduced more proprietary elements?
Usage wise I am not bothered with it. I'm happy with stock roms, I quit customizing.

well, they may have added in their typical proprietary soup, plus introduced some new bits, but I don't think they've moved away from aosp, anymore than would be typical... aosp is just the base system, after all... I've built aosp for the pixel in the past and added gapps.... sure, there are differences vs. stock, but not overly drastic...

the pixel 2 likely has more of a gap, but at the same time, once u drop gapps intoplace; i'm sure it's far less noticeable on aosp...

ya, i'm mostly happy with stock too. but I still use magisk, my own kernel, I tweak android a bit... and have been tinkering with xposed, since it was recently released for Oreo (although, it's currently a bit lack-luster due to lack of Oreo plugins).

 

[uodii]

well, they may have added in their typical proprietary soup, plus introduced some new bits, but I don't think they've moved away from aosp, anymore than would be typical... aosp is just the base system, after all... I've built aosp for the pixel in the past and added gapps.... sure, there are differences vs. stock, but not overly drastic...

the pixel 2 likely has more of a gap, but at the same time, once u drop gapps intoplace; i'm sure it's far less noticeable on aosp...

ya, i'm mostly happy with stock too. but I still use magisk, my own kernel, I tweak android a bit... and have been tinkering with xposed, since it was recently released for Oreo (although, it's currently a bit lack-luster due to lack of Oreo plugins).

Has there been any progress with xposed being compatible with safetynet? I loved using gravitybox with stock rom since it always seemed to be the most stable, feature-rich, customizable option of the custom roms, but xposed trips safetynet (last I checked) and imo that makes it unusable.

 

[piperx]

Has there been any progress with xposed being compatible with safetynet? I loved using gravitybox with stock rom since it always seemed to be the most stable, feature-rich, customizable option of the custom roms, but xposed trips safetynet (last I checked) and imo that makes it unusable.

That will probably never happen, as far as I know, there is no "progress"

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