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wrwolf2

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Nov 24, 2014
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.... and without android, neither play services ?

in that case, the answer is maybe and depending on your system configuration.


we actually tested ' FydeOS ' up to vers. 9.2 however on our own test platform and since the release of ' FydeOS 8.2 ' , we can only boot once and right after completing configuration with " dual boot " [ FydeOS and mac OS ]

some kind of " kernel update " eventually occurs and messing everything up upon restarting chromiumOS [ FydeOS ] for the first time thus the system will no longer launch FydeOS on a second attempt and beyond.

take care,

marc


UPDATE : 2020, May 30th.
we only are aware of the following method to go past " login " without creating or authenticating a ' FydeOS account ' .
- logging in with guest account first and then launching crosh shell in a tab [ CTRL + ALT + T ] then applying changes [ EDITING ] for a conf. file [ cd /etc ; sudo vim chrome_dev.conf ]

upon ' logging off ' guest account, you're likely to see " google login application " and that page with hypertext to authenticate a google account [ note: power-wash won't even revert to requesting FydeOS account credentials ]

please note:
FydeOS account is likely necessary when adding apps or extensions from ' FydeOS app store ' , those web apps and chrome extensions incl. however with no limitation to ' installer ' is what we need in order to set-up ' dual boot ' with ' re-find ' as boot manager.

Dual booting
Is there a way to dual boot without FydeOS account and without chromefy script?
 
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pauljblo

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Hi I installed open gapps from the fyde store. But there is still no play store. Also when I click on android settings it just stays on a spinning circle loading?
 

Kibahor

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Hi,
I'm using actually the last version of Fyde OS (9.2) in dual-boot with windows. Open gapps is installed and linux activate but dispeat the fact that everythings work like a charm i have no tap to click (homewer the option is enabled). Have you an idea to solve it ?
 

madhits45

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Nov 29, 2010
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comparing BRUNCH to fydeOS here are some notes and if your like me youl still need fyde on some systems.

A few notes:
1. if you are comparing BRUNCH to FydeOS. Brunch is great if you have UEFI bios, if you do not have UEFI only a standard bios then FydeOS is your best option and probably your only option to run chromeos.

2. I tried to run these commands on the newest fydeOS 10.2 and could not get the guest mode to work so here is a workaround for those struggling with the newest fydeOS 10.2.

So I updated the original guide on adding a google account and added how to install FydeOS 9.1 or 10.2 newest. Here is my slightly different approach..

Boot up the USB and when presented with the login for a fydeOS account do this.

Press CTRL + ALT + F2

login type chronos

then use this command

sudo su

and you’ll have to insert the password chronos

then go on and mount the system to read and write

sudo mount -o remount,rw /

then remove a couple of files

cd /etc/chromium/policies/managed
sudo rm *.*

Then edit the conf file

cd /etc
sudo nano chrome_dev.conf

(nano is also built into chrome os, it’s way easier to use then VIM)

comment the lines referring to FydeOs account like that and add a line referring to google account and sync critical if you later want to add google account.

#--fydeos-account-enabled <--this line is not part of the config for fydeOS 10.2 does exist in 9.1.
#--fydemina
--google-account-enabled
-–sync-support-secondary-account (because for some reason, FydeOS doesn’t allow visiting chrome://flags)

If your booting from USB you can go ahead and login with google here after reboot and never think about a fydeos account. However If you created a fydeOS account and logged in and installed to your HD that last line "sync support" is the only way youl get google account to actually work. You need to go to add user and then add the google account but without that line it spins and spins and never allows the login to finish.

If booting from USB, install fydeOS on HD.
To do that type.

Enter command "lsblk" and press Enter

Search for the physical disk. It will probably be displayed as sd x . You can also determine by the size of the disk space and the number of partitions. The following command will take "sda" as the label.

Enter the command: "sudo /usr/sbin/chromeos-install --dst /dev/sda"

Confirm Y for Yes or N for NO to install.

Reboot

Once you finally have fydeOS installed, you can use either account type fyde or google. Now I just need to figure out how to sideload the google play store on a core 2 duo. Likely impossible.
 
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Zainullahk

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FydeOs is a good chromium fork and it supports android, but it lacks a full google sync and that’s not so good, since sync across multiple devices is the best thing ever and that’s where Google services do play their best. At least I think so.

Moreover, FydeOs by default sends the user’s data to their servers. They do such thing in an open way, through a FydeOs account, so they shouldn’t be blamed, but we are free to use the Os which is in our device without sharing our data with FydeOs so as some don’t like sharing their data with Google.

So, I have found a quite easy way to remove those limitations. The purpose is to use FydeOs without a FydeOs account, without sharing our data (passwords and so on) with them, while retaining a fully functional play store and a full google sync.

This is a simple how-to written in a few spare time. If I get more time, I will make it less rough.

First of all, press CTRL + ALT + T

then use this commands

shell
sudo su

and you’ll have got to insert the password chronos

then go on and mount the system to read and write

sudo mount -o remount,rw /

then remove a couple of files

cd /etc/chromium/policies/managed
sudo rm *.*

Then edit the conf file

cd /etc
sudo vim chrome_dev.conf

(disclaimer: please google for vim commands, it’s preinstalled in chrome os)

comment the lines referring to FydeOs account like that and add a line referring to google account (maybe useless)

#--fydeos-account-enabled
#--fydemina
--google-account-enabled

Close the tab and open a chromium tab in incognito mode, then type

chrome://flags

Look for the flag Support secondary accounts for Sync standalone transport

and switch it on.

Then reboot and you’ll be able to add a secondary account, then you'll be prompted to insert your google account.

Follow the usual steps to configure the device and your apps and settings will be restored (if you already have got another chromebook). The file manager now will show your google drive folder:)

To install the play store you have got to edit chrome_dev.conf, by uncommenting the lines which you had previously commented, and reboot...

Then you can use the app provided by FydeOs to install the Play store. This step will remove the google sync and you won’t see google drive inside the file manager.

Now you can comment those lines again and reboot and everything will be fine i.e. google sync will be back.

After rebooting, you can go to chromium extensions and remove the FydeOs extension (the one which sends your data to their servers) and you can go to the shelf and remove the installer with the chinese name, by simply clicking it.

Now you can use the secondary account, which is fully working and syncing to google servers (only) and forget about the other one (i.e. the FydeOs one).

I tested these steps once only and maybe not all of them were required, but my device has been working fine for 3 days straight without any issue.

can you directly install play store than enable google sync?
 

smnbldwn

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Jan 13, 2021
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I tried editing the chrome_dev.conf file as above but it didn't affect the Fydeos login screen and I still can't login with a Google account. I have not created or logged in with a Fydeos account yet. Is it worth doing it and trying to go back to Google later? I saw that Fydeos have instructions on how to multiboot on their website using their install app. Would be nice to have that then go back to Google... Another thought, does Chromify or Croissant work on Fydeos? Thanks for all the tips...
 

smnbldwn

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Jan 13, 2021
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An update on the issue above. I have commented out all commands in the chrome_dev.conf file as an experiment. It has no obvious effect. This is on the version of Fydeos based on ChromiumOS 86.0.4240.260 (64-bit)
 

xda.ddy

Member
Mar 31, 2021
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Also FydeOS 12.0 released today. I'll let you know if everything still works.

I'm trying to install with the following chrome_dev.conf:

Code:
--load-media-router-component-extension=1
--disable-arc-opt-in-verification
--enable-hardware-overlays=single-fullscreen

##Added
--fydeos-account-disabled ##TOTAL guess
--google-account-enabled
--arc-start-mode=always-start-with-play-store
--sync-support-secondary-account

##Removed
#--fydemina
#--arc-start-mode=always-start-with-no-play-store

This is the default chrome_dev.conf in 12.0:

Code:
--load-media-router-component-extension=1
--disable-arc-opt-in-verification
--enable-hardware-overlays=single-fullscreen
--arc-start-mode=always-start-with-no-play-store
--fydemina
 
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xda.ddy

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OK update: With version 12.0 it seems the previous methods for bypassing the FydeOS account signup no longer work...

You can still choose "I prefer Google" after you make a Fyde account though.
 
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ipta

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Sep 2, 2015
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i have installed opengapps and stuck at 20%.
can you help me
I have the same problem.
So Im installing Gapps on Store (FydeOS dedicated App Store), then it ask me to open the Android setting to agree with the terms & conditions.
Click agree, back to Store to install Gapps but it just stuck.
Trying to install Google Play Store by downloading via apkmirror, install it but when trying to login, the button cannot be pressed.
Need help please...
 

qbfreak

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Oct 26, 2008
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Jakarta
I tried to install fydeOs on Asus mini pc, but it always failed.
I've been trying to figure out how to install it, but after reading this thread, why does it seem more complicated
 

zen15

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Jan 18, 2010
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Jakarta
hi there, i'm new to this fydeOs, i've managed to installed it as dualboot alongside win 10, all is working well, but after boot in to fydeOs i don't have FydeOS dedicated App Store, which is i want to install Gapps from there, can anyone assist me how to add or enable fydeOs Apps store? i'm new to linux and fydeOs..., thanks

note: fydeOs ver 12.2
 

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    FydeOs is a good chromium fork and it supports android, but it lacks a full google sync and that’s not so good, since sync across multiple devices is the best thing ever and that’s where Google services do play their best. At least I think so.

    Moreover, FydeOs by default sends the user’s data to their servers. They do such thing in an open way, through a FydeOs account, so they shouldn’t be blamed, but we are free to use the Os which is in our device without sharing our data with FydeOs so as some don’t like sharing their data with Google.

    So, I have found a quite easy way to remove those limitations. The purpose is to use FydeOs without a FydeOs account, without sharing our data (passwords and so on) with them, while retaining a fully functional play store and a full google sync.

    This is a simple how-to written in a few spare time. If I get more time, I will make it less rough.

    First of all, press CTRL + ALT + T

    then use this commands

    shell
    sudo su

    and you’ll have got to insert the password chronos

    then go on and mount the system to read and write

    sudo mount -o remount,rw /

    then remove a couple of files

    cd /etc/chromium/policies/managed
    sudo rm *.*

    Then edit the conf file

    cd /etc
    sudo vim chrome_dev.conf

    (disclaimer: please google for vim commands, it’s preinstalled in chrome os)

    comment the lines referring to FydeOs account like that and add a line referring to google account (maybe useless)

    #--fydeos-account-enabled
    #--fydemina
    --google-account-enabled

    Close the tab and open a chromium tab in incognito mode, then type

    chrome://flags

    Look for the flag Support secondary accounts for Sync standalone transport

    and switch it on.

    Then reboot and you’ll be able to add a secondary account, then you'll be prompted to insert your google account.

    Follow the usual steps to configure the device and your apps and settings will be restored (if you already have got another chromebook). The file manager now will show your google drive folder:)

    To install the play store you have got to edit chrome_dev.conf, by uncommenting the lines which you had previously commented, and reboot...

    Then you can use the app provided by FydeOs to install the Play store. This step will remove the google sync and you won’t see google drive inside the file manager.

    Now you can comment those lines again and reboot and everything will be fine i.e. google sync will be back.

    After rebooting, you can go to chromium extensions and remove the FydeOs extension (the one which sends your data to their servers) and you can go to the shelf and remove the installer with the chinese name, by simply clicking it.

    Now you can use the secondary account, which is fully working and syncing to google servers (only) and forget about the other one (i.e. the FydeOs one).

    I tested these steps once only and maybe not all of them were required, but my device has been working fine for 3 days straight without any issue.
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    While this is still fresh I wanted to clear these instructions up for anyone who builds the fydeOS USB and wants to avoid creating a fydeOS account.

    SO here goes
    When your at the fydeOS login screen, notice you cant enter guest mode, so you have to hit ctrl+alt+f2.

    Youl get to a fydeOS command line again asking for login and password but they are chronos + chronos for both password and login.

    The guide then picks up where lucaoldb left off

    then use this commands

    sudo su

    and you’ll have got to insert the password chronos

    then go on and mount the system to read and write

    sudo mount -o remount,rw /

    then remove a couple of files

    cd /etc/chromium/policies/managed
    sudo rm *.*

    Then edit the conf file

    cd /etc
    sudo vim chrome_dev.conf

    (disclaimer: please google for vim commands, it’s preinstalled in chrome os)

    comment the lines referring to FydeOs account like that and add a line referring to google account (maybe useless)

    #--fydeos-account-enabled
    #--fydemina
    --google-account-enabled

    THIS IS THE LAST STEP YOU can complete from the command line, simply issue a reboot and boot back to the USB and wa-la google login. Now you can complete the final step once you login with google account.

    Close the tab and open a chromium tab in incognito mode, then type

    chrome://flags

    Look for the flag Support secondary accounts for Sync standalone transport

    and switch it on.

    To install the play store you have got to edit chrome_dev.conf, by uncommenting the lines which you had previously commented out above. Details below:
    1. sudo mount -o remount,rw /
    2. sudo vim chrome_dev.conf
    3. remove # comments
    4. :wq
    5. :shell
    6. reboot

    Then you can use the app provided by FydeOs to install the Play store. This step will remove the google sync and you won’t see google drive inside the file manager.

    Now you can comment those lines again and reboot and everything will be fine i.e. google sync will be back.

    After rebooting, you can go to chromium extensions and remove the FydeOs extension (the one which sends your data to their servers) and you can go to the shelf and remove the installer with the chinese name, by simply clicking it.

    THAT'S IT
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    I compiled more detailed guide by using this tread as well as this XDA tread and of course www.google.com
    1. download the image from https://fydeos.com/download
    2. create USB in rufus https://rufus.ie
    follow steps 3-5 if UEFI boot doesnt work (black screen, or stuck on booting message)
    3. set BIOS in legacy boot, quick boot disabled
    4. use VGA output (or another secondary output if available)
    5. boot USB in legacy mode
    to install to HDD follow 7-11
    7. ctrl + alt + F2 after the system logo to enter console
    8. chronos #to log in
    9. /usr/sbin/chromeos-install --dst /dev/YOURDRIVEHERE (sda) #to run instalation script
    10. sudo reboot
    11. boot from HDD
    12. ctrl + alt + F2 to enter console
    13. sudo su
    14. sudo mount -o remount, rw /
    15. cd /etc/chromium/policies/managed
    16. sudo rm *
    17. sudo vim /etc/chrome_dev.conf #make sure you type correctly, otherwise you'll open a new text file
    18. comment the lines: (google how to use VIM editor for instructions-> i to edit, esc to stop, del to delete, :wq! to save and exit)
    # — fydeos-account-enabled
    # — fydemina
    19. add lines, save and close:
    –google-account-enabled
    –sync-support-secondary-account
    #this and the next line can be changed by typing chrome://flags in browser and changing to enabled
    –arc-vpn
    20. sudo reboot
    21. login with google account
    22. click on android settings app and confirm the prompt
    23. sideload Device ID app https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939830832
    24. copy-paste your GSF ID to this page https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/
    25. ctrl+alt+T
    26. shell
    27. repeat steps 13, 14, 17
    28. uncomment the lines in step 18
    29. repeat step 20
    30. login and start android app (play store) setup (if still showing an error give it 5-10 min and log in then)
    31. repeat steps 25-27
    32. repeat step 18 and 20
    33. login, remove fydeoos extensions from the browser if you wish
    enjoy your chrome/android OS :)
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    hi there,
    first of all a huge thanks for the elaborated guide
    now coming to the short version of your guide, i tried your guide many a times and i found that we should just create a usb for the installer of fydeos then install it straightaway by using the install command in the terminal by that ctrl+alt+F2 method, its in english only. ( no need to first creating fydeos account and logging in to open chrosh)
    On first boot from hdd we should open the terminal with the above key combo( ctrl+alt+F2 ),
    then just do the steps you have written till inserting # before those fyde lines( as u wrote the google enable line is not needed)
    after the changes are done to the conf file just save and reboot(shutdown and again start)
    viola, you will be presented with google login screen , do the login and after getting to homescreen we need to again open that conf file and remove the #(hashes)
    just reboot again and playstore will be enabled.
    so the trick is to add hashes and then removing them after setting up the account to enable playstore.

    for first timers-------- in vim scroll down to the fyde lines and just click i(to enable insert mode) and insert # then press esc to exit insert mode go down to second line of fyde and again click i then insert #, after that press esc and type :wq and press enter, changes will be saved.
    to remove the hash(#) for enabling playstore when in vim scroll down to the hash and click x then type :wq and its done.

    OP Thankyou so much, i am using fydeos now on main laptop for gaming, editing, media playback and internet browsing .
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    Fyde OS and Arnoldthebat - a look at the differences

    I haven't tinkered with FydeOS for months, due to my job and my family.

    My how-to was a very quick one and I knew that it could work for the old release of FydeOS that you could download by that time, but when I tested the following ones I faced the same issues that had been so far reported by the other users.

    As a lawyer I don't feel like making deep modifications to the img that FydeOS let us download or, to be more straight, I don't feel like sharing any modded file or img, but I still like modding thing, when I have some spare time.

    Anyway I have had a look at FydeOS img in comparison to the one by Arnoldthebat ad the main difference in inside the folder "ROOT-A.img\opt\google\containers"

    In fact, while inside the one by Arnoldthebat you can find only the sub folder "pins" which only refers to Crostini, inside FydeOS img you have gor plenty of files referring to android, which are inside the subfolders

    android
    arc-sdcard
    arc-obb-mounter
    arc-art

    I will have a look a the "real" chrome OS img to see if those files are there too (edit: yes, they are in the same position) but I suppose that it shouldn't be that difficult, after mounting the img in linux, either ripping those files from FydeOS and placing them into Arnoldthebat's img or doing the opposite. Then there must be only some config files to look at. Maybe it's the same approach as project Croissant, but I haven't had the time to dig into it yet.

    Edit: after looking at chrome OS internals, I seem to understand that:

    - android subsystem is there by default for Chrome OS and it's the same for Fyde OS;

    - it just waits for being enabled in settings and that step downloads the play store too for chrome OS, while for FydeOS it downloads a sort of modded play store, if I'm not wrong;

    - a reasonable approach, in order to avoid the project croissant route which could not work for some device, would be placing inside Arnoldthebat's img not only the android subsystem folders in /opt/containers but also placing the Gapps too, so as for android phones and this should make the trick... Maybe.