Galaxy Note 8 won't turn on or charge!

Ahmed.Talaat

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I have a Galaxy Note 8 model SM-N950F/DS which I bought on the beginning of 2018 from Qatar with UAE FW, yesterday I was talking to my wife through a video call on Facebook Messenger for almost 1 hour, noting that I was calling her everyday since last January as I'm residing in another country for the whole day and never experienced the following problem except the heat one around 1 or 2 times only just lasts for a few seconds to a couple of minutes!
The phone was standing on wooden stand from IKEA Belgium inside a back cover from AUTO FOCUS and the phone is coated by mobile outfitters (these information may help in the over heating issue) and while we were talking the screen freeze and there were a couple of colored lines in a small area in the top quarter of the screen.
I took the phone and found it over heated from the back side at the bottom quarter and not responding with freeze screen, I searched the internet and found that I can restart the device by holding the power button with volume down button, it worked and the device restarted and gave me a black screen with blue blinking LED then I did use again the power button with the volume down button and it worked but turned off after requesting the OS login pin code.
After that I switched it ON and did the same for around more 2 times then stopped working!
I found on the web that I have to connect it to a wall charger via the original charging cable for around 10 minutes and then try the power button with the volume down, it worked and gave me the charging screen with the phone OFF and it was reading something in 20s percentage so I left it until it reached around 44% then tried to power ON the device again and the same thing happened, it gave me the "Galaxy Note 8" logo then asked for the OS boot pin and after I entered the pin it gave me "starting phone..." then stopped!
I tried to leave it again for 10 minutes in the charger and do the power button with the volume down and it gave me the charging screen again!
I left it until it reached 70 or 77% (don't remember exactly) and then tried to switch it on to the boot menu using the power button + Bixby button + volume up button and wiped the cache partition, after wiping that partition the phone restarted and never came up again!
None of the above worked again! Not leaving it charging for 10 minutes then try the power key + volume down key! Not the power + Bixby + volume up! I even found someone connected the charger for seconds then removed it then pressed power + Bixby + volume down and his phone worked, it didn't work to me!
Overall this, the phone isn't warming up when it connected to the charger back! so either it has a full battery or it stopped charging for hardware failure!
I don't know what to do, I almost tried everything and I can't imagine how it can have a hardware malfunction because of the over heating and worked several times after that! As I'm an electronics engineer I faced this before in certain embedded systems boards but it has to stop directly if there's a short circuit or certain damage in the circuitry.
I hope if someone can help regarding this!
 
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I would bring it in for repairs. Sounds like a fried board.

Happened to my wife's redmi note. Phone was left on car dashboard under the sun with waze running and battery charging. Outside temperature was around 37 degrees celsius. When she reached the destination 1 hour later the phone was too hot to hold.

The phone screen froze. Managed to reboot it but phone never booted up again.

Got it fixed under warranty though.. Was a new phone back then. Change of board fixed it.

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Ahmed.Talaat

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I would bring it in for repairs. Sounds like a fried board.

Happened to my wife's redmi note. Phone was left on car dashboard under the sun with waze running and battery charging. Outside temperature was around 37 degrees celsius. When she reached the destination 1 hour later the phone was too hot to hold.

The phone screen froze. Managed to reboot it but phone never booted up again.

Got it fixed under warranty though.. Was a new phone back then. Change of board fixed it.

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Thanks for your response, it seems like this is the only way but since that I have to take an appointment because of the current situation of the pandemic and since there still time for this appointment I though to post the problem here may someone discover a solution to try if the problem still software not hardware!
 

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Now I understood what it really may happened if the problem is hardware and it's obvious now that it's definitely hardware!

If it's a fried board so it seems like the tracks on board was about to damage and this explains why it worked several times, during these several times, the passing current in this fried board starts to lose the connection damaging the board more and more until it became a total loss, which switched the phone OFF totally, so if this explanation is correct I don't think that I have anything to do except waiting until the service center open the phone chassis and look inside!
 

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Now I understood what it really may happened if the problem is hardware and it's obvious now that it's definitely hardware!



If it's a fried board so it seems like the tracks on board was about to damage and this explains why it worked several times, during these several times, the passing current in this fried board starts to lose the connection damaging the board more and more until it became a total loss, which switched the phone OFF totally, so if this explanation is correct I don't think that I have anything to do except waiting until the service center open the phone chassis and look inside!
Could be the integrated circuit board as well. Thousands of mini gold threads in it.

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Ahmed.Talaat

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Could be the integrated circuit board as well. Thousands of mini gold threads in it.

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That's what I was wondering from the beginning, if there's a damaged IC from the over heating, how could you explain that it worked several times after the heating issue? Do you mean there was a partial damage in the beginning doesn't prevent the phone from working back again?
 

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That's what I was wondering from the beginning, if there's a damaged IC from the over heating, how could you explain that it worked several times after the heating issue? Do you mean there was a partial damage in the beginning doesn't prevent the phone from working back again?
Sometimes when something is about to fail but isn't completely dead.. Sometimes it works intermittently.

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I have a new update, after I left the phone for around 4 hours since our earlier conversation, I tried the combination of power button + volume down + Bixby key, the phone worked and gave me a green screen, when I pressed volume down to cancel and restart it, it didn't restart but gave my a black screen, I connected the charger and it gave me the charging screen with 0% battery!

Could be a battery issue?! The device was OFF, how did it drain the battery without operation?!
 
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Ahmed.Talaat

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Sometimes when something is about to fail but isn't completely dead.. Sometimes it works intermittently.

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It seems like it still working! :) Now how can I tell there's no hardware issue beside the battery if it's the problem? Should I wait till the service center too or can I confirm with anything else? I'll leave it until reaches 100% and try to switch it ON while the charger plugged in, so it can boot up again easily!
 

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After the phone reached up to 93%, I tried to switch it ON in Safe mode, but it didn't continue. I tried to open the recovery menu, it stuck in installing updates 3 times, each time it restarts, after that it could enter but without giving me the menu options, instead in the Android console screen it gave me some errors, the first one was that it can't load the recovery menu with no such file or directory between brackets!
 
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To keep all of you updated with the phone's situation, I went today morning to Samsung Service Center and after they tried to operate it, they said the device is acting weird because it login to the OS then shuts off directly and this could be due to either the main board, the battery, or the operating system, but they refused to receive the phone after they knew that it came from outside Europe, so I took it to a 3rd party Service Center and I'm waiting for them to call me after their analysis!
 

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Today the service center called me to pick up the phone and he said it might be the main board nothing else because the system doesn't load to the to the end, so I told him it might be a partial damage in the ROM so there are some corrupted sectors which prevent the system from logging because the loss of some files, he said yes maybe, then I asked him if he opened the phone he said yes, I asked if he noticed any damages in the main board like burns or anything, he said no!