General Galaxy S23 Ultra camera performance
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Interesting. That water color smoothed out crap dates back to the N10+. This one is still running on Pie so doesn't have the latest cam updates. I see it happen with cat fur sometimes and it's not the wind, shutter speed, low light or AF point*!For 50mp and 200mp:
1. pics form my s23 ultra are always overexposed, so dissapointed. Esp with the sky, easily blown own out and not as "blue sky" as with 12mp, or as used to be with Note 10 plus. In low light, things are noticeably smoothed out, not clear-edged
2. shutter speed slow down compared with that taken in 12mp, that 's why pics are always overexposed and slightly blurrr (unless u hold the phone very very steady)
3. pics seem smoothed out, not clear-edged
Is it mine only or..... ?
Doesn't always happen though. May have to do with cam settings. I haven't paid it too much attention but it's irritating when it happens.
Try using the "motion picture" photo option if you have it. Haven't seen it when using that mode and it's great for active subject shots.
Don't go too nuts or you'll drive yourself mad. Relax and play with it... See the world as your cam sees it rather than your eyes which are infinitely better due in large part to their huge visual cortex processor.
*the cam not grabbing a good sample can happen with any cam. Sometimes it's a metering setting and/or AF lock on point issue ie user caused. This can happen with $6G pro cams
Not much white paper on how Samsung cams work like Canon gives its users. No pro tools like advanced metering modes and real time contrast curves to set up exposures. So there's that.Learn how your cam "sees". Trial and error. Try the different metering/exposure modes associated with the AF lock. At least you can see your results in seconds, not hours or days latter.
Hello
Which capture speed setting did you choose?
- priority quality
-balance for speed and quality
- prioritize speed
thanks
Which capture speed setting did you choose?
- priority quality
-balance for speed and quality
- prioritize speed
thanks
tnks for you rep, at least have sb on my sideInteresting. That water color smoothed out crap dates back to the N10+. This one is still running on Pie so doesn't have the latest cam updates. I see it happen with cat fur sometimes and it's not the wind, shutter speed, low light or AF point*!
Doesn't always happen though. May have to do with cam settings. I haven't paid it too much attention but it's irritating when it happens.
Try using the "motion picture" photo option if you have it. Haven't seen it when using that mode and it's great for active subject shots.
Don't go too nuts or you'll drive yourself mad. Relax and play with it... See the world as your cam sees it rather than your eyes which are infinitely better due in large part to their huge visual cortex processor.
*the cam not grabbing a good sample can happen with any cam. Sometimes it's a metering setting and/or AF lock on point issue ie user caused. This can happen with $6G pro cams
Learn how your cam "sees". Trial and error. Try the different metering/exposure modes associated with the AF lock. At least you can see your results in seconds, not hours or days latter.
"See the world as your cam sees it rather than your eyes which are infinitely better due in large part to their huge visual cortex processor." totally agree. anyway, when put in comparison with Note 10 + or.....
howevers, such bad things happen only in 50 and 100 mp. 12mp is ok !
did try with HDR toggle, but results are still inconsistent. so , again. leave all settings as default
The motion picture setting images are only viewable with the Samsung Gallery as my other photo viewers can't detect that encoding.tnks for you rep, at least have sb on my side
"See the world as your cam sees it rather than your eyes which are infinitely better due in large part to their huge visual cortex processor." totally agree. anyway, when put in comparison with Note 10 + or.....
howevers, such bad things happen only in 50 and 100 mp. 12mp is ok !
did try with HDR toggle, but results are still inconsistent. so , again. leave all settings as default
Current setup:
HDR is on, in the past I disabled it.
Rear cam resolution set to Full instead of 16:9, that may effect the smudging.
Scene optimizer is on now, it's blue icon shows but all Bixby packages are disabled. Another setting I never had on... if it actually is.
I don't know what causes the smudging especially in daylight shots. It doesn't seem to be happening in recent shots. It grabbing good images now.
With the 50/100/200 mp settings* no clue why it's smudging although it's not new. May be the same unknown cause or something new.
I don't normally shoot raws and for troubleshooting that give more clues to the possible cause.
One final thought is it could be temperature related ie higher sensor temperatures is creating more background noise. This normally only a low light issue though. Maybe the smaller pixels yielding a smaller sample during their noise nulling phase impacts their final sample because they can't set a precise/uniform enough base level. Try shooting with a cooler cam.
* the telephoto lense isn't optically stabilized so I assume it's being done digitally. Try bracing the cam when shooting at max pixel settings
S23 ultra - Google Drive
I attached 6 pics in the link above, with note on each pic (12 or 50).
First 02 pics: auto focus
Next 02: focus on the red chair
Last 02: autofocus
As you all can see, 50mp pics are always oversaturated and overexposed. 12mp pics are more true to reality
The only 50mp pic that is acceptable to me is the last one (....5411.jpg) . Though still oversaturated, but the white balance is ok
Last thing, in daylight and outdoor, problems like smoothed-out or water-colored with 50mp is less severe, or much better than in low light or indoor.
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Anyone share same opinions or problems ?
Get a color test chart to see what's really going on. Then view the images* on a color calibrated monitor rather than the phone**. It's a very deep rabbit hole... as you will learn if you venture down it. Color calibration is very complex.S23 ultra - Google Drive
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I attached 6 pics in the link above, with note on each pic (12 or 50).
First 02 pics: auto focus
Next 02: focus on the red chair
Last 02: autofocus
As you all can see, 50mp pics are always oversaturated and overexposed. 12mp pics are more true to reality
The only 50mp pic that is acceptable to me is the last one (....5411.jpg) . Though still oversaturated, but the white balance is ok
Last thing, in daylight and outdoor, problems like smoothed-out or water-colored with 50mp is less severe, or much better than in low light or indoor.
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Anyone share same opinions or problems ?
*put the chart in the set you're shooting. Manly used to calibrate WB once a system is properly set up. You can easily see if colors are being faithfully reproduced and if your throughput is correctly set up. The colors and greyscale should look identical to the card as the image of it on the calibrated monitor.
**where is the calibration fault? The cam, the ICC profile or the display, or a combination?
They just want to make s23 money. I don't understand how you don't see big problems with the screen and camera https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/info-galaxy-s23-ultra.4542191/post-88240079
Tried settings to adjust white balance and color correction?
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For 4 days I tried all possible settings and applications from Playmarket and the internet. Of course this is the first thing I tried.
You can't color calibrate a display by eye. If you do that the color calibration will be off and the gamma calibration even more so. If Samsung didn't or couldn't do it you're boned.
Color calibration and side angle color shifting issues increased with N20U; the first Samsung variable refresh rate display. Those issues remain. Samsung refuses to use a fixed rate 90 or 120hz display rate that could be more accurately calibrated. One of the reasons I still use the N10+; better color accuracy, WB and side color shifting.
Anyway, some people don't care so much about a perfect calibration, but rather something that looks good to their eyes
I calibrated a little to match a perfect white and colors that looks realistic to me
That was the job Samsung was suppose to do.Anyway, some people don't care so much about a perfect calibration, but rather something that looks good to their eyes
I calibrated a little to match a perfect white and colors that looks realistic to me
My color perception is in the top 1-3% and any attempts I make to do color calibration compared to even a early Spyder colorimeter fail miserably. One image will look ok only to fall apart when viewing another; simply too many interacting variables that are beyond the human vision sensitivity range especially contrast.
If not color calibrated properly it will skew the gamma calibration exponentially. Invariably it can be seen and is unacceptable at this price point.
Hello,
is it normal to have blurry edges on the pictures from the main 200 mp camera?
No matter what i do its allways blurry. It is more apparent with 200 mp pictures but also visible in 12 mp shots.
is it normal to have blurry edges on the pictures from the main 200 mp camera?
No matter what i do its allways blurry. It is more apparent with 200 mp pictures but also visible in 12 mp shots.
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Good lens tend to be sharpest around the middle of a image, far sides less so. A blur chart maps this. For objects to be sharp they need to be near the same focal plane (point of AF lock) as well. The further the object is from the AF point, the more blur.
If the AF lock on point is near the frame center and still blurred you got an issue.
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If you set the auto camera to 50MP and you have a sunny day then yes the auto will be good or at least decent most of the time but that is also the case for phones costing 3x less than the Ultra. The best and easiest way for me to take good pictures is to use the Expert Raw camera set on 50 MP and everything else on auto. The annoying thing is that when setting the quick action of double pressing the power button to open the Expert Raw camera I need to unlock the phone first, it won't open the camera as it does with the standard camera app. Does anyone know a setting that can change this?
I hope Samsung will provide a software update soon as I still prefer to use my smartphone camera as a point-and-shoot and not have to fiddle with the settings too much.4
