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joaogordo96

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what is better? LMC R12fix or R13? seems like all these LMC's has pixel arctifacts
is the kairu final [0] the lastest?
 

srslye

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Thank you for this comparision.
Personally I think it is a matter of taste which sharpness and saturation like you the best
imho LMC_A3.3 and MGC_I555 looks less sharp, but doesn't have black shadows around whites
Maybe some outdoor pictures gives a better overview.
I agree, sharpness and saturation is to taste.
However, some issues like overall blurriness and noise cannot be ignored.

In that case AGC should in theory be best out of those shots for you, clearer and less noise than A3.3 and I555? Look at the icons in the task bar.

Ill do some outdoor daylight shots tomorrow.
 

srslye

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what is better? LMC R12fix or R13? seems like all these LMC's has pixel arctifacts
is the kairu final [0] the lastest?
I can't tell a difference between 12 and 13.

Yes it would be nice if there was less artifacting. I would love AGC to be as sharp as Kairu, but smooth like AGC, a little marriage ;)

Kairu [0] is the latest as far as I'm aware.
 
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Night sight test lmc 13 on kairo. No, i don' t have all that ligjt in reality 😁
 

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srslye

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LMC R13 + Kairu [0]
9 Aug 22_26.LMC.R12~2.jpg

Shamim v28 fix + Kairu [0]
10_KAIRU FINAL [0] (1)~2.jpg


It's so close, some things are clearer in one and some things more so in the other. Shamim represents some colour aspects better and LMC better in others.

I think probably no one would ever notice the difference.
 
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Shamim V29 is out..

  • Fixed some bugs
  • Notes: A clean install is required and requires a reboot for everything to work normally. If the video doesn't work, go to developer setting and enable the option camcorder.codec_video. For Google Pixel users, if anyone faces black display, try all device interface selections. I hope the problems are fixed

 

srslye

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LMC R13 + Kairu [0]
10 Aug 00_58.LMC.R12~2.jpg

LMC R13 + ltlmc13.8.4
LMC_20220810_005918_ltlmc13.8.4.MP~2.jpg


I've been sifting through all the xmls, and I think these two are my picks if you want to see an accurate representation of the scene.

Ltlmc13.8.3 is slightly more colour accurate, and less noisy. Edges it out for me, even though one of the fine lines disappears a bit. Maybe I'll try adjust sharpness to see if I can clear it up further, if that works at all. For eg. with Kairu anything I changed resulted in worse performance.

Ok check this out, HDR+ vs HDR+E

LMC R13 + ltlmc13.8.4 HDR+
LMC_20220810_013331_laptapperLMC13-20.MP~2.jpg

LMC R13 + ltlmc13.8.4 HDR+E
LMC_20220810_013345_laptapperLMC13-20~2.jpg


Now that's what I'm talking about! Love it!

Same thing:
LMC R13 + Kairu [0] HDR+
10 Aug 01_41.LMC.R12~2.jpg

LMC R13 + Kairu [0] HDR+E
10 Aug 01_41.LMC.R12 (1)~2.jpg


Thoughts? Am I barking up the wrong tree?

I think they both kill with HDR+E on.

LMC R13 + ltlmc13.8.4 HDR+E
LMC_20220810_020958_ltlmc13.8.4.NIGHT~2.jpg

LMC R13 + Kairu [0] HDR+E
10 Aug 02_09.LMC.R12.NIGHT~2.jpg


Can't argue with those results! :)

AWB for Kairu resulted in the most accurate colour representation.
 
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RUsama602

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Shots :2
Quick comparison b/w following:
AMV :Andermendz3. 3 xml (SGCAM 29)
MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29)
LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12)
 

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Quick comparison b/w following:
AMV :Andermendz3. 3 xml (SGCAM 29)
MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29)
LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12)
 

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Final
Quick comparison b/w following:
AMV :Andermendz3. 3 xml (SGCAM 29)
MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29)
LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12)
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Please share your thoughts about results. Personally from these shots i am happy with the results from Kairu final and especially Mister+Laptapper xml. Without any doubt Andermendz produces great details but tbh personally i love if he adds little saturation to his xml. It's looks behind natural. Thank you so much for all xmls creators for your efforts you are insane. 😊👍
 

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RUsama602

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🛑NOTE::🛑
PLEASE TAP ON THE PICTURE TO SEE THE PICTURES PREFIX TO FIND WHICH PICTURE BELONGS TO WHICH XML. PICTURES POSTED ARE NOT ACCORDING TO THE CAPTION WRITTEN ABOVE. THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING.
 

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Hello guys i visited this thread after a long time so can u guys tag me to the current best gcam plus xml to compare it to my old sachi lmc and xdadine as i still use them thank you
 

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Add V220810 of MisterX / Laptapper XML for Shamim V29 with new sharp model.
Find out the new xml in invitation folder.

NOTE:
For correct test (main / macro), please sure that the folders are:

\SGCAM\XML
\SGCAM\LIB

Put XML in \SGCAM\XML
and Libgcastartup_xHDR_Portrait.so in \SGCAM\LIB

Reload twice the XML from Shamim V29 app and good test! :)
I like more saturated images, if you don't like, downsize saturation in main and macro setting camera.
 
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RUsama602

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Add V220810 of MisterX / Laptapper XML for Shamim V29 with new sharp model.
Find out the new xml in invitation folder.

NOTE:
For correct test (main / macro), please sure that the folders are:

\SGCAM\XML
\SGCAM\LIB

Put XML in \SGCAM\XML
and Libgcastartup_xHDR_Portrait.so in \SGCAM\LIB

Reload twice the XML from Shamim V29 app and good test! :)
I like more saturated images, if you don't like, downsize saturation in main and macro setting camera.
May i know what's the Changelog of xml i mean what changes are made.
 

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Final
Quick comparison b/w following:
AMV :Andermendz3. 3 xml (SGCAM 29)
MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29)
LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12)
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Please share your thoughts about results. Personally from these shots i am happy with the results from Kairu final and especially Mister+Laptapper xml. Without any doubt Andermendz produces great details but tbh personally i love if he adds little saturation to his xml. It's looks behind natural. Thank you so much for all xmls creators for your efforts you are insane. 😊👍

I agree with your conclusion.
My choice overall LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12), this would change if the colours of MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29) were natural like Kairu.

Because Details:
1. MXP: Mister+Laptapper (SGCAM 29) Wow!
2. LMC : KAIRU FINAL (LMC R12)
3. AMV: Andermendz3. 3 xml (SGCAM 29)
 

srslye

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Add V220810 of MisterX / Laptapper XML for Shamim V29 with new sharp model.
Find out the new xml in invitation folder.

NOTE:
For correct test (main / macro), please sure that the folders are:

\SGCAM\XML
\SGCAM\LIB

Put XML in \SGCAM\XML
and Libgcastartup_xHDR_Portrait.so in \SGCAM\LIB

Reload twice the XML from Shamim V29 app and good test! :)
I like more saturated images, if you don't like, downsize saturation in main and macro setting camera.
Great news, but I can't see it in the folder, refreshed a number of times.
 
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