Themes / Apps / Mods Gcam Discussion Thread

Search This thread

srslye

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2014
298
262
photos taken this morning before the storm, for quick comparison, with LMC8.4 v13
xml from KAIRU FINAL [0] - andermendz3 - SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
hard to choose which one I prefer
Crops:
Andermendz3.3
andermendz3.3.jpg
KAIRU FINAL [0]
KAIRU FINAL [0].jpg
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0.jpg

Details: SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0 > KAIRU FINAL [0] > Andermendz3.3
 
  • Like
Reactions: Klaus69 and Szacki

Szacki

Member
Jul 5, 2022
18
33
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: srslye

srslye

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2014
298
262
I have been playing with BSG 8.1 lately and found it most stable Gcam for our device, it has almost everything working with mohak xml and intro555 xml. So my question is that why should we not focus on BSG 8.1?
I don't know which is the best single gcam to work on as a team.

But I agree that the overall goal of a single package that does everything well with all lenses and features working would be achieved far quicker with all the energy of the talented guys here working on a single gcam that already functions well in general. Instead of spreading the effort over many gcams.

But I suppose the guys who have the skill to do that (not me) may have different goals, maybe they're only interested in improving the Main Wide lens, so they're happy to stick to the gcam version that they know well already.

I guess the main options would be: LMC R13, Shamim v29, BSG 8.1, AGC v9..
 
Last edited:

srslye

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2014
298
262
Finally, I have a preference for Kairu Final (0) although the picture made with Andermendz3 have less noises.
Cool man, just goes to show how different we all are. I automatically choose SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0 due to it having the clearest details, then I can quickly adjust brightness, contrast, saturation etc. to optimise in Google photos..
I just could never choose the blurrier image. :)

Crops:
Andermendz3.3
andermendz3.3.jpg
KAIRU FINAL [0]
KAIRU FINAL [0].jpg
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0.jpg
 
Last edited:

nini_blade

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2022
69
70
Cool man, just goes to show how different we all are. I automatically choose SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0 due to it having the clearest details, then I can quickly adjust brightness, contrast, saturation etc. to optimise in Google photos..
I just could never choose the blurrier image. :)

Crops:
Andermendz3.3
View attachment 5685603
KAIRU FINAL [0]
View attachment 5685605
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
View attachment 5685607
sachisk mixed+kairu is the best in details. One question tho, is it on lmcr13 or r9?
 

Szacki

Member
Jul 5, 2022
18
33
taken with LMC8.4 v13
xml from KAIRU FINAL [0] - andermendz3 - SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
 

Attachments

  • Kairu Final 0 -14 Aug 14_01.LMC.R12.jpg
    Kairu Final 0 -14 Aug 14_01.LMC.R12.jpg
    2.2 MB · Views: 37
  • AMV_20220814_140435_andermendz3.3.jpg
    AMV_20220814_140435_andermendz3.3.jpg
    1.2 MB · Views: 36
  • RN10PRO_20220814_140301_LMC.R12.MP.jpg
    RN10PRO_20220814_140301_LMC.R12.MP.jpg
    2 MB · Views: 37

srslye

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2014
298
262
Crops:
Kairu final
View attachment 5685619
Sachiskmixed+kairu
View attachment 5685623
They're nearly the same(?)
Yea, it's hard to tell in that one. Perhaps make the crops the same dimensions next time.

My next comparison I'll do:
LMC8.4 v13: Daylight and Low-light:
Dx43 vs Kairu [0] vs Sachisk mixed+kairu

Perhaps I can help provide a definitive answer.

*Edit: Oh I see Szacki has done a test above. But I do notice all 3 are from slightly different angles. Perhaps I can help confirm with a static shot from the exact same angle.
I have also noticed that one xml can perform better in daylight, and another better for inside shots and Low-light.
These are factors that have to be taken into account.
 
Last edited:

Szacki

Member
Jul 5, 2022
18
33
I'm using LMC8.4 R13 with SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0 and in macro mode, when I hit the shutter button the screen flashes but nothing else happens. It doesn't actually take a photo. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a fix?

Edit: It doesn't work with HDR+ at all. With it disabled it captures just fine? Is this a known issue?
the same thing to me
 
  • Like
Reactions: srslye

Pit_Stopper

New member
Feb 4, 2015
1
3
Hello everyone. I just thought it might be a good idea to zoom in not only on bright areas to compare overall sharpness, but also check the darker spots. Here's three more crops from the same photos Szacki has provided, and we see a huge difference on how the tested xml's handle low-light parts of the photograph. The sharpest xml is definitely not at its best here.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20220814-212020_1.png
    Screenshot_20220814-212020_1.png
    1.8 MB · Views: 43
  • Screenshot_20220814-212043_1.png
    Screenshot_20220814-212043_1.png
    2.9 MB · Views: 42
  • Screenshot_20220814-212107_1.png
    Screenshot_20220814-212107_1.png
    3 MB · Views: 43

srslye

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2014
298
262
Hello everyone. I just thought it might be a good idea to zoom in not only on bright areas to compare overall sharpness, but also check the darker spots. Here's three more crops from the same photos Szacki has provided, and we see a huge difference on how the tested xml's handle low-light parts of the photograph. The sharpest xml is definitely not at its best here.
Good point bro. I've possibly neglected to take this into account. I guess because our eyes are naturally primarily drawn to the bright areas.
 

Top Liked Posts

  • 1
    que gcam es exactamente ? if i can ask, You can share a link?
    Arnova 8.4
    BSG 8.4
    Arnova 8.3
  • 21
    20220830 Moderator Information

    After a closer look at the thread, I find it is totally against XDA's standing on the way of sharing.
    As a forum user for years, I spent 20 minutes on this thread back and forth, trying to find the direct links to download files but repeatedly encounter such words "xx is in invitation group" and it leads me to nowhere.
    The whole thread will remain closed until I removed all off topic posts about "invitation group". And I believe this may take a few days.


    20220901 Moderator Information
    TL;DR: all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform

    Wall of Text

    This thread has been cleaned from off topic posts. You may notice that in total about 4 pages of posts are gone (147 vs 143).

    As posted by some users here, this is one of the largesst gcam thread on XDA and the only thread existing for gcam discussion for this device. Unfortunately, it is not very friendly to new gcam users. A newbie, like myself :p, would be 99.5% lost during browsering this thread and the files people talking about were nowhere to find. This must stop.

    I understand a developer's feeling of getting recognization, fulfilled, being needed, helpful, and credited. It is a great achievement to let your hard work to be used by many others. To a developer, getting feedback for sure is a critical way to improve the work. In this thread, I see many users are sharing their work and providiing feedback to each other, not only the main developer here, but each other. I belive in this gcam thread, everyone can develop and you are your own developer. Kudos to every "developers" here. :)

    I also understand the feeling of "losing your work" when you posted it but no one cares or use it without feedback, it feels like "stealing" or "underappreciated". But I believe that is only a tiny portion of users, especially on XDA. And the background reason also varies: some users are new to this development or shy to share or just want to cherry pick the best for themselves. XDA is on internet, and on internet, we see all kinds of people like in your work, in your life. We accept the fact that users are not all perfect but to see the beauty in it: sharing the work with others.

    From now on, please share the xml files directly on XDA. And for OP @Laptapper , I highly suggest you update the first post to include a repo or filehost or any format of summary you like to give others an overview of current progress. For example, you could release a monthly version and then continue ongoing test with users. This is just my suggestion and you have every right to select the way of sharing.

    In the end, I want to emphasize one point:
    all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform. Otherwise it is not allowed by our rules and content will be removed.


    Thanks for reading this wall of text. Hope you all have a good time developing! :D
    9
    Other xml, what i've used:

    From heyamiyou:
    AMI • SGCam [v34Fix] Lens Fix.xml
    AMI-LMC R12 DSRL 📸 (LMC V12) Fix Lens.xml
    AMI-LMC R12 DSRL 📸 (AWB-COLOR OFILM).xml Change DSLR to color OFILM (not for sunny device)

    From Prashant:
    Lmc8.4_r13_prashant_premium_v4.4☘️.xml (This is the last)
    BSG 8.5.300_prashant🍄.xml (only main cam)

    From Mohak:
    RMN10ProMax_Mohak⭐⭐BSG 8.1.xml

    Unkown:
    LMC-A-Ok_v2_COLOR.xml (very satured)

    Note: I'm sorry, but in some I have changed some things, but I don't remember which and what I have changed, but they are minor changes in appearance or operation. The configuration of the xml is all of its creator.
    8
    I use awb, noise models and .so files in Arnova 8.3 and 8.4 there is no option to import awb and nm in bsg8.4.

    I like astrophotography and i really like the results from arnova gcams samples attached below (slightly edited in Google photos)
    7
    hi guys this is my new tweaks to improve noise from original kairu final -0-
    just kairu values mixed into sachisk mixed xml with some tweaks by me FOR LMC R10 x9s.

    almost hits the details in kairu with less noise in both of lens, but ofcourse i'm still improving.

    also working:
    - all lenses color balanced
    - 4K HDR with EIS ON
    - slow-mo
    ultrawide_comparisom.jpg
    6
    I've been a fan of MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV2b & Andermendz's RN10P.xml combo. Photo quality was great, color is very close to reality, details - good & good sharpness. But, it was a bit darker than reality & color could be up a notch for a dramatic look. So, tweaked some settings to my liking.
    Disabled macro & wide angle as they are worthless to me.
    Feel free to use or do anything.
    tried out your xml with mgc, here are a few comparison shots with kairu final

    in both pairs, the first pic is with lmc and kairu final xml and the second one is with mgc and your provided xml

    the first pair
    your modified xml provides great deal of quality and sharpness but while having increased the brightness, notice the sky tends to get overblown (its a cloudy and rainy day here so the sky is nowhere near close to how it looks like irl). Kairu's just has that natural tone overall

    the second pair
    here, again andermendz's xml modified version is really bright and kinda distorts the colour to what it is like irl, but it'll look really appealing to people who are into rich and popping colours

    i also noticed that the xml is wayy sharper and provides a great range of contrast when compared to kairu's

    just my thoughts, big ups to you sir for the xml
  • 25
    My final final KAIRU XML (?)

    This might just be my very last XML if no problems are found. (For LMC R12 Fix)

    Changelog:
    Reduced the green tint on low-light (if it still persists then turn on AWB).

    Sharper and reveals even more details.
    Tuned the Wide camera and also fixed the distortion by changing the interface model, turns out it fixes the distortion only after capturing the image.

    Added a subtle but very nice beauty mode "✨". It is very nice especially on portrait shots / human shots because it hides a bit of the imperfections (but not too much like what a TikTok filter would). And has the same color profile as the Main lens. I also recommend this mode for a very good low-light or maybe even night pictures because it has very low noise

    Please give it a try!
    24
    20220901 Thread cleaned

    In case of deleted files from users in my editable folder, test ended here.




    I've followed the moderator suggestion about the sharing and the XDA rules, although I don't like to share with non XDA members.

    This first post is now with a link to GDrive with shared xmls and libs
    I've adjusted this folder that everyone can modify files inside.
    Please don't delete files, otherwise the test with the editable shared folder ends.



    Screenshot_20220901-193826_Drive.png


    The both root documents are editable by everyone....
    21
    20220830 Moderator Information

    After a closer look at the thread, I find it is totally against XDA's standing on the way of sharing.
    As a forum user for years, I spent 20 minutes on this thread back and forth, trying to find the direct links to download files but repeatedly encounter such words "xx is in invitation group" and it leads me to nowhere.
    The whole thread will remain closed until I removed all off topic posts about "invitation group". And I believe this may take a few days.


    20220901 Moderator Information
    TL;DR: all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform

    Wall of Text

    This thread has been cleaned from off topic posts. You may notice that in total about 4 pages of posts are gone (147 vs 143).

    As posted by some users here, this is one of the largesst gcam thread on XDA and the only thread existing for gcam discussion for this device. Unfortunately, it is not very friendly to new gcam users. A newbie, like myself :p, would be 99.5% lost during browsering this thread and the files people talking about were nowhere to find. This must stop.

    I understand a developer's feeling of getting recognization, fulfilled, being needed, helpful, and credited. It is a great achievement to let your hard work to be used by many others. To a developer, getting feedback for sure is a critical way to improve the work. In this thread, I see many users are sharing their work and providiing feedback to each other, not only the main developer here, but each other. I belive in this gcam thread, everyone can develop and you are your own developer. Kudos to every "developers" here. :)

    I also understand the feeling of "losing your work" when you posted it but no one cares or use it without feedback, it feels like "stealing" or "underappreciated". But I believe that is only a tiny portion of users, especially on XDA. And the background reason also varies: some users are new to this development or shy to share or just want to cherry pick the best for themselves. XDA is on internet, and on internet, we see all kinds of people like in your work, in your life. We accept the fact that users are not all perfect but to see the beauty in it: sharing the work with others.

    From now on, please share the xml files directly on XDA. And for OP @Laptapper , I highly suggest you update the first post to include a repo or filehost or any format of summary you like to give others an overview of current progress. For example, you could release a monthly version and then continue ongoing test with users. This is just my suggestion and you have every right to select the way of sharing.

    In the end, I want to emphasize one point:
    all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform. Otherwise it is not allowed by our rules and content will be removed.


    Thanks for reading this wall of text. Hope you all have a good time developing! :D
    20
    Sharing my personal config, arrived at after months of testing and tweaking:
    - For BSG MGC_8.1.101_A9_PV4, no library needed
    - Tested on M2101K6G (sweet)
    - Based on jeneeek's config (heavily tweaked for reduced noise, more accurate colours, better dynamic range)

    - All cameras configured (main, ultrawide, macro, front)
    Includes stabilised 4k video recording for all cameras (though GCam stabilisation isn't as good as on stock MIUI app)​
    - Photos are sharp and detailed, while still looking natural (no oversharpening halos etc)
    - Colours are natural and accurate but more punchy than stock (especially in low light)

    If you prefer instant photos you can turn off HDR+ Enhanced, but I recommend keeping it on as it gives you improved noise management in main cam, better preserved highlights in ultrawide, and more detail in macro/front at the cost of ~1 sec shutter time. Test for yourself if it's worth it.

    ISSUES:
    - No distortion correction in ultrawide
    - In some cases Night Sight photos may be more noisy than optimal
    - Viewfinder may get too dark to see well at night, you can turn on OpenGL preview to fix this

    This is a work in progress, so let me know what you think!
    14
    hi guys
    this is the SACHISK MIXED xml with main lens and front cam from KAIRU FINAL -0-.
    in other words, all of Kairu's main lens natural and definition settings entered into Sachisk's XML. So we have the main camera from Kairu, and the rest (ultrawide lens and video recorder and other configs) from Sachisk. for LMC 8.4 x9s.

    i could not change AWB settings, so the main camera has all the settings from Kairu without AWB. AWB settings from Sachisk.


    from my last 3 2 and a half months, a LMC x9s is really quite stable, and an XML SACHISK MIXED presented the best compromise between functionality and good quality so far. I decided to mix the best of Kairu with the best of Sachisk according to my opinion.