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So here is the comparison b/w following.
PHOTOGRAPHY = Hikari xml with Shamim v30
PHOTOGRAPHY WITH WATERMARK= Hikari xml with AGC9.1
LT= LAPTAPPER lmcs30lt50 xml with lmc r13
Then Kairu xml with lmc r12.
The pics order maybe different so use prefix mentioned above to find pics according to the xml.
NOTE:::🛑
ALL PICS ARE TAKEN IN CLOUDY WEATHER SADLY FROM LAST WEEK ITS RAIN GOING ON HERE. THERE IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THESE SHOT I AM INTERESTD IN HIKARI XML TO TEST IN DAY LIGHT.
I will really appreciate if someone takes these pics and crops in and compare to see which xml is better.
 

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So here is the comparison b/w following.
PHOTOGRAPHY = Hikari xml with Shamim v30
PHOTOGRAPHY WITH WATERMARK= Hikari xml with AGC9.1
LT= LAPTAPPER lmcs30lt50 xml with lmc r13
Then Kairu xml with lmc r12.
The pics order maybe different so use prefix mentioned above to find pics according to the xml.
NOTE:::🛑
ALL PICS ARE TAKEN IN CLOUDY WEATHER SADLY FROM LAST WEEK ITS RAIN GOING ON HERE. THERE IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THESE SHOT I AM INTERESTD IN HIKARI XML TO TEST IN DAY LIGHT.
I will really appreciate if someone takes these pics and crops in and compare to see which xml is better.
Made a few crops for you:
AGC-Hikari
1-AGC-Hikari.jpg
Shamim-Hikari
1-Shamim-Hikari.jpg
LMC12-Kairu
1-LMC12-Kairu.jpg
LMC13-lmcs30lt50
1-LMC13-lmcs30lt50.jpg

Looks like it was quite windy. :) Harder to tell by the trees, but look at the mast and wires.
 
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Correct me if i am wrong i think Kairu final kept the details very well.
Yes sir, agreed! It would be interesting to see if LMC12+Kairu is performing better than LMC13+Kairu.
Either way, if the noise problem with Kairu could be solved or greatly diminished and low-light performance improved, Ultrawide+Macro optimised, ..it would be the clear front-runner in all respects.
 

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x100 Res-off for easier comparison.

LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
19 Aug 16_20.lmc_8.4.jpg
Shamim V30 + x100
LTP-20220819_162100828_x100.x.jpg
Crops:
LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
19 Aug 16_20.lmc_8.4~2.jpg
Shamim V30 + x100
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LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
19 Aug 16_20.lmc_8.4~3.jpg
Shamim V30 + x100
LTP-20220819_162100828_x100.x~3.jpg

x100 is a far cleaner image, Kairu has greater fine detail (*statement corrected/clarified in my response to Laptapper below), but it comes at the cost of considerable pixel distortion and noise.

If x100 could be sharpened a bit, detail-wise, it would be the clear winner imo. Kairu is so close, but man, that pixel distortion and noise, it's ugly.
 
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x100 Res-off for easier comparison.

LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
View attachment 5690349
Shamim V30 + x100
View attachment 5690359
Crops:
LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
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Shamim V30 + x100
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LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
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Shamim V30 + x100
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x100 is a far cleaner image, Kairu has greater fine detail, but it comes at the cost of considerable pixel distortion and noise.

If x100 could be sharpened a bit, detail-wise, it would be the winner imo. Kairu is so close, but man, that pixel distortion, it's bad.
Please try again with tap focus on the small angel
 

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x100 Res-off for easier comparison.

LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
View attachment 5690349
Shamim V30 + x100
View attachment 5690359
Crops:
LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
View attachment 5690353
Shamim V30 + x100
View attachment 5690361
LMC R13 fixed + Kairu Final
View attachment 5690351
Shamim V30 + x100
View attachment 5690363

x100 is a far cleaner image, Kairu has greater fine detail, but it comes at the cost of considerable pixel distortion and noise.

If x100 could be sharpened a bit, detail-wise, it would be the clear winner imo. Kairu is so close, but man, that pixel distortion and noise, it's ugly.
I didn't see any greater fine details here (opposite is right here)

Kairu
Screenshot_20220819-164724_Opera beta.png




X100
Screenshot_20220819-164805_Opera beta.png
 
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I didn't see any greater fine details here (opposite is right here)

Kairu
View attachment 5690373



X100
View attachment 5690371
No, you're right sir!

Kairu distorts badly. I think what I'm perceiving as detail on the angel, is a weird trick of the eye. *The more I look at the two, Kairu only seems like it has more detail because the pixel artifacts themselves give the illusion of more defined edges!

Kairu (no offence intended) misrepresents the true nature of various elements eg. leaf shapes, resulting in foliage looking like a blurry oil painting.

If you can bring a similarly tuned output for the Ultrawide and Macro, and match low light performance to AGC, then for me, I think it's a super promising all-in-one package.

VERY exciting! :)
 
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Please try again with tap focus on the small angel
When I get my hands on the phone again, I'll continue comparisons bewteen Kairu and x100. Perhaps I can provide the data you need to fine-tune, and also optimise low-light (I'll include AGC for that since it's the best I've seen) ..and the other lenses eventually, ..hopefully. :)
 
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No, you're right sir!

Kairu distorts badly. I think what I'm perceiving as detail on the angel, is a weird trick of the eye. The more I look at the two, Kairu only seems like it has more detail because the pixel artifacts themselves give the illusion of more defined edges!

Kairu (no offence intended) misrepresents eg. leaf shapes, resulting in foliage looking like a blurry oil painting.

If you can bring a similarly tuned output for the Ultrawide and Macro, and match low light performance to AGC, then for me, I think it's a super promising all-in-one package.

VERY exciting! :)
Let us work together!
If someone optimize macro
and someone wide

We've got someone to merge them in one XML!

Night should be good in x100.x ?
 

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Let us work together!
If someone optimize macro
and someone wide

We've got someone to merge them in one XML!

Night should be good in x100.x ?
That's the spirit of community effort I love, and if we're lucky, some other talented dudes will add their expertise to the pot. :)

I will do some low-light tests tonight.
 
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No, you're right sir!

Kairu distorts badly. I think what I'm perceiving as detail on the angel, is a weird trick of the eye. The more I look at the two, Kairu only seems like it has more detail because the pixel artifacts themselves give the illusion of more defined edges!

Kairu (no offence intended) misrepresents the true nature of various elements eg. leaf shapes, resulting in foliage looking like a blurry oil painting.

If you can bring a similarly tuned output for the Ultrawide and Macro, and match low light performance to AGC, then for me, I think it's a super promising all-in-one package.

VERY exciting! :)
How far is the sign away from the cam?
100m?
Screenshot_20220819-164805_Opera beta.png

I think in this distance we could only improve less than 1%, or?
 

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How far is the sign away from the cam?
100m?
View attachment 5690399

I think in this distance we could only improve less than 1%, or?
I think 100m is about right. Perhaps it is the limitation of the lens. As discussed before, Kairu only gives the appearance of clarity, which is actually pixel distortion artifacts.

Indeed, on my old phone I would adjust sharpness just to where edges/details were optimally defined, text most legible, but before becoming noisy/distorted. However, it seems to not work that way with this phone when I have tried. Perhaps I will try once again when I get a chance.

I'm mostly good for a bit of data contribution though. We could do with a bit of elbow grease from the old pros lurking around I think. :)
 
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thought i'd do a bit of low-light testing for Kairu final since there's a general opinion that its struggling in low light, tell me what you guys think
both pics taken in close to low-light conditions (the light from the garden lamp thingy is really faint) without any night mode, 1st is in 1x, and the 2nd is the same picture taken in 2x (focus is on the lamp in both cases)
i was genuinely surprised by the general lack of noise, also i feel that the clarity is decent too given the minimal amount of light, and the pictures look really close to what it looks like irl
 

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    My final final KAIRU XML (?)

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    Sharing my personal config, arrived at after months of testing and tweaking:
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    hi guys
    this is the SACHISK MIXED xml with main lens and front cam from KAIRU FINAL -0-.
    in other words, all of Kairu's main lens natural and definition settings entered into Sachisk's XML. So we have the main camera from Kairu, and the rest (ultrawide lens and video recorder and other configs) from Sachisk. for LMC 8.4 x9s.

    i could not change AWB settings, so the main camera has all the settings from Kairu without AWB. AWB settings from Sachisk.


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