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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
LMC13_Kairu Final [0].jpg
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
LMC13_Sachisk Mixed + Kairu Final.jpg
LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
LMC13_andermendz3.3.jpg
AGC YKY Basic
AGC_YKY Basic.jpg
Shamim 29 LTP X53
Too big, thumbnail won't load.
Shamim 29 Dx43
Shamim_Dx43.jpg

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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
Crop_LMC13_Kairu Final [0].jpg
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
Crop_LMC13_Sachisk Mixed + Kairu Final.jpg
LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
Crop_LMC13_andermendz3.3.jpg
AGC YKY Basic
Crop_AGC_YKY Basic.jpg
Shamim 29 LTP X53
Crop_Shamim_Ltp X53.jpg
Shamim 29 Dx43
Crop_Shamim_Dx43.jpg

Dx43 crashed LMC 13 repeatedly, perhaps it's meant for Shamim, I thought it was for LMC.
Damnit I forgot to turn Res off for X53.

Edit: Retracting my uneducated opinions, I'll just provide the data.

What with various people reporting crashing when using Macro on..LMC was it?
I more than ever think that the most stable gcam for RN10 Pro should be chosen to work on as a singular project.
It would expediate the desired end result of a well rounded, reliable gcam+xml package dramatically.
The focused power of collective intelligence is a beautiful thing when harnessed and directed correctly.
 

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What with various people reporting crashing when using Macro on..LMC was it?
I more than ever think that the most stable gcam for RN10 Pro should be chosen to work on as a singular project.
It would expediate the desired end result of a well rounded, reliable gcam+xml package dramatically.
The focused power of collective intelligence is a beautiful thing when harnessed and directed correctly.
They said that it was crashing cuz of dx43.but like u said it was for shammim so its logical to crash i guess
 
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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
View attachment 5685897
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
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LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
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AGC YKY Basic
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Shamim 29 LTP X53
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Shamim 29 Dx43
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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
View attachment 5685887
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
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LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
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AGC YKY Basic
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Shamim 29 LTP X53
View attachment 5685893
Shamim 29 Dx43
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Dx43 crashed LMC 13 repeatedly, perhaps it's meant for Shamim, I thought it was for LMC.
Damnit I forgot to turn Res off for X53.

What with various people reporting crashing when using Macro on..LMC was it?
I more than ever think that the most stable gcam for RN10 Pro should be chosen to work on as a singular project.
It would expediate the desired end result of a well rounded, reliable gcam+xml package dramatically.
The focused power of collective intelligence is a beautiful thing when harnessed and directed correctly.
Okay in terms of details i prefer sachisk mixed+kairu(although ITS SO CLOSE WITH KAIRU final)
And in terms of the overall picture i don't really have a favorite they're all close to each other.only sachisk mixed is more yellowish which i personally like more(cuz its more natural i think)
I noticed also that in dark areas kairu has some noise but sachisk mixed doesn't neither does ltpx52
Dx43 feels like a filter but its still good
 

srslye

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They said that it was crashing cuz of dx43.but like u said it was for shammim so its logical to crash i guess
Yep, I shouldn't have mentioned anything about a situation I don't fully understand anyway, my bad.
Okay in terms of details i prefer sachisk mixed+kairu(although ITS SO CLOSE WITH KAIRU final)
And in terms of the overall picture i don't really have a favorite they're all close to each other.only sachisk mixed is more yellowish which i personally like more(cuz its more natural i think)
I noticed also that in dark areas kairu has some noise but sachisk mixed doesn't neither does ltpx52
Dx43 feels like a filter but its still good
I haven't touched any settings, and I've triple checked I have all the relevant files in all their respective directories. Lenses cleaned etc. So hopefully it's reliable data.
 
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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
1 - LMC 13 -  Kairu Final [0].jpg
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
2 - LMC 13 - SachiskMixed+Kairu.jpg
LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
3 - LMC 13 - Andermendz3.3.jpg
AGC YKY Basic
4 - AGC - YKY Basic.jpg
Shamim 29 LTP X53 (I should have moved the book closer to the camera)
5 - Shamim - Ltp X53.jpg
Shamim 29 Dx43
6 - Shamim - Dx43.jpg
 
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Yep, I shouldn't have mentioned anything about a situation I don't fully understand anyway, my bad.

I haven't touched any settings, and I've triple checked I have all the relevant files in all their respective directories. Lenses cleaned etc. So hopefully it's reliable data.
Oh btw whats ur favorite picture of all of them?
 

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Oh btw whats ur favorite picture of all of them?
I'll describe my preference this way: I want the shot that exposes the scene the best, and has the crispest resolved detail. As well as the one that most accurately portrays reality. That is my idea about matching the emotion on the ladies' face in the book, and finetuning the details so that also the text is sharp and defined and matched the book.
Wrapped in well functioning gcam package, with the other 2 lenses tuned to match the Main lens character as much as possible and perform to the best of their inherent abilities.
I can dream, can't I? ;)

And then it could be released to everyone, so they too could rely on it to do a great job in every situation.

Ok, since you asked :p, the image that meets all my criteria is AGC, it looks the most like the actual book, and that's with only a few settings changes from stock. Just imagine the potential if the boys here got their hands on it, and also tuned the Ultrawide and Macro. Man, it would be awesome.
 
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I'll describe my preference this way: I want the shot that exposes the scene the best, and has the crispest resolved detail. As well as the one that most accurately portrays reality. That is my idea about matching the emotion on the ladies' face in the book, and finetuning the details so that also the text is sharp and defined and matched the book.
Wrapped in well functioning gcam package, with the other 2 lenses tuned to match the Main lens character as much as possible and perform to the best of their inherent abilities.
I can dream, can't I? ;)

And then it could be released to everyone, so they too could rely on it to do a great job in every situation.

Ok, since you asked :p, the image that meets all my criteria is AGC, it looks the most like the actual book, and that's with only a few settings changes from stock. Just imagine the potential if the boys here got their hands on it, and also tuned the Ultrawide and Macro. Man, it would be awesome.
Oh yeah i forgot bout agc basic😅.yup i agree with u 100%.even tho probably the latests xml are better than the basic xml it still good potential, i think we should give it a tryy
 
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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
View attachment 5685897
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
View attachment 5685895
LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
View attachment 5685899
AGC YKY Basic
View attachment 5685905
Shamim 29 LTP X53
Too big, thumbnail won't load.
Shamim 29 Dx43
View attachment 5685903

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LMC 13 Kairu Final [0]
View attachment 5685887
LMC 13 Sachisk Mixed +Kairu Final
View attachment 5685889
LMC 13 Andermendz3.3
View attachment 5685885
AGC YKY Basic
View attachment 5685883
Shamim 29 LTP X53
View attachment 5685893
Shamim 29 Dx43
View attachment 5685891

Dx43 crashed LMC 13 repeatedly, perhaps it's meant for Shamim, I thought it was for LMC.
Damnit I forgot to turn Res off for X53.

Edit: Retracting my uneducated opinions, I'll just provide the data.

What with various people reporting crashing when using Macro on..LMC was it?
I more than ever think that the most stable gcam for RN10 Pro should be chosen to work on as a singular project.
It would expediate the desired end result of a well rounded, reliable gcam+xml package dramatically.
The focused power of collective intelligence is a beautiful thing when harnessed and directed correctly.
seeing your pictures post, and seeing mines with zoom, my preference for overall aspect and sharpness is Kairu Final (0) although some noises in the darker parts.
It is only my opinions, and it is very subjective, anyway!
 
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taken with hdr ++
not easy to have exactly the same position, because taken through a fence.
laptapperLMC13-20
andermendz3.3
SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0
KAIRU FINAL [0]
 

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Hey gcam lovers

If you would like, you can checkout in a few minutes my new x54 and the laptapper-andermendez-dx43-laptapper-v4 (ltanlt4)
Both are shamim configs

Comparison of shamim configs

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My opinion is that everybody should only use LMC build as there are no major problems.

With shamim build you get many problems and new build just break something more. I don't know what he is doing. Noise models works sometimes and sometimes they don't work. Very confusing.

and it doesn't have that many options what LMC does have.

It is also surprise that developers still work with gcam version 8.4.300 or 8.4.400 and not update build to 8.4.600 or even newer 8.5.300

With BSG you can get latest and greatest gcam version but there are no much settings to play with.
 
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Quick comparaison :
MC.R12:Kairu night mod
RN10PRO:Sachisk mixed+kairu(@joaogordo96 )
Ur idea is really great cuz sachisk mixed was really good it was my old all day cam but i think in low lights kairu is better.i noticed more noise in ur xml.
BUT we certainly will improve it and get the best of the idea
true, sachisk mixed xml it's pretty dark overall, and another thing I noticed is that mixing Kairu's values with sachisk brought a lot of noise in low light environments.
 

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My opinion is that everybody should only use LMC build as there are no major problems.

With shamim build you get many problems and new build just break something more. ...
Maybe for you, but till now I never could use LMC versions without FC and interfering with my stock camera.
That is why I don't experiment anymore with LMC.
I read this topic with interest, but so far I see little more than I have now (BSG8.1-Intro555) if I ignore the LMC versions.
 
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not easy to see the difference, we break our eyes :)
Sachisk mixed + Kairu xml in theory should give the same result as final Kairu -0- on the main lens, as the values are exactly the same as final Kairu -0- (since the purpose is to try to make the gcam perfect). The only thing that changes is the ultrawide lens, video and AWB values (which are from Sachisk Mixed)
 

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I'm using LMC8.4 R13 with SACHISK_MIXED+KAIRUFINAL-0 and in macro mode, when I hit the shutter button the screen flashes but nothing else happens. It doesn't actually take a photo. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a fix?

Edit: It doesn't work with HDR+ at all. With it disabled it captures just fine? Is this a known issue?
that is why i recommend to use LMC x9s. this bug happens same here with R13.
 
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    what's the current best for
    Pixel 8 Pro. ;)


    Testing this much hyped Sony DLSR again out of Telegram groups for AGC Mod. And i dunno whats so special.

    I hate congratulating myself, but after a lot of back and forth, I just did it myself with a solid base more or less. I was tired of having to compromise between functions. Havent noticed anything i would have need to fix so far. So, never touch a running system.
    2
    I'm author of pretty popular universal config on other forum and want to share it here too.
    My nickname there intro555 (links not allowed on XDA). Someone brought here old and modified version, here newest.

    It took me half-year and 16 versions behind to fine-tune all 4 cameras. Especially neat macro.
    Now I'm happy with result, like many users on that forum. So give a try, samples below post.

    Compatible GCam: LMC 8.4 R17 or R18 (even R16).
    Links above go to Celsoazevedo pages: pick up any APK package name. They differ to install multiply apps of same version.

    > Download config (v.16)

    Key points
    • Realistic colors without pale overcontrast or overbrighting (like do stock and iPhones)
    • Optimal noise cancellation: no unnecessary blurring, no noise
    • Bright night mode and viewfinder
    • Video stabilization in 1080p 60 FPS and 4K, even in macro
    • Without rainbow dots in tree leaves, so called confetti
    • 108 / 16MP upscale ready for main and selfie camera: use "RES" button
    Important, please read
    • For main and wide cameras never enable "HDR+ Enhanced" in quick menu or you got a lot of noise in low-light
    • But for macro and selfie you should temporally enable "HDR+ Enhanced": this eliminates possible overlightning (GCam's thing)
    • Never enable AWB or JAWB (buttons in viewfinder), keep "sun" button enabled
    • Slow-motion video not work: can hang camera or capture sound of ultrasonic proximity sensor
    • Face retouching hidden because it won't work in any GCam and config
    Trick for macro
    Sometimes useful to lock focus for maximum magnification and don't rely on jumping auto.
    LMC have manual focus slider, but for some reason there is long delay between pressing the shutter button and taking the picture, which is unacceptable.

    Workaround: switch to "Night Mode". It sounds strange, but it's ok to use it even in bright day.
    This is similar to "HDR Enhanced" and eliminating the need to temporarily change the HDR mode like described above.
    Then in Quick menu by swiping down select "Focus > Near". I set correct values in config.
    This will set the focus to maximum magnification. Now control it simply by moving your phone.
    Exactly the same, but in the opposite direction if you select "Far". Useful for large objects.
    2
    Too much software glibberish
    It's phone with micro lenses, here impossible to rid out of post-processing. Otherwise you get noisy, dull and low-hdr images.

    What you call "gibberish", probably, just artifacts of noise cancellation - necessary evil. Binning imho totally not related. Yes, NC can be set lower which give fine "grain" details similar to processed RAW. But when light become insufficient - noise appears here and there. Especially in Night / Astro modes, of course. It's all basic inevitably thing.

    I've seen such configs and they won't "pass" low-light tests (see below). So NC - compromise to use same config in any conditions without hassle of switching them. "Universal", as I said in original post.

    For better understanding. First attached image showing with what GCam have to deal.
    – First part - one true RAW frame from batch, got it via gcam.debug prop. "As is" image from sensor, that's how phone sees scene.
    – Second - RAW mode, here less noise due stacking frames.
    – Third - auto-processed regular JPEG.

    As you see, in shadows or low-light physically not present much details, they "absorbed" by noise. And to keep image somewhat clean NC steps in introducing artifacts. Or in your opinion better to keep all that red dots?

    Second image: comparison between low-NC config by user redtext and my.
    His photos really have more details in good light, but not at evening / indoor.

    Tell what better. Also I'd like to see sample without mentioned gibberish. And in low-light :)
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    Some moar.

    @Dbeast6699; check my edit. Attached it as zip.
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    20220901 Thread cleaned

    In case of deleted files from users in my editable folder, test ended here.




    I've followed the moderator suggestion about the sharing and the XDA rules, although I don't like to share with non XDA members.

    This first post is now with a link to GDrive with shared xmls and libs
    I've adjusted this folder that everyone can modify files inside.
    Please don't delete files, otherwise the test with the editable shared folder ends.



    Screenshot_20220901-193826_Drive.png


    The both root documents are editable by everyone....
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    My final final KAIRU XML (?)

    This might just be my very last XML if no problems are found. (For LMC R12 Fix)

    Changelog:
    Reduced the green tint on low-light (if it still persists then turn on AWB).

    Sharper and reveals even more details.
    Tuned the Wide camera and also fixed the distortion by changing the interface model, turns out it fixes the distortion only after capturing the image.

    Added a subtle but very nice beauty mode "✨". It is very nice especially on portrait shots / human shots because it hides a bit of the imperfections (but not too much like what a TikTok filter would). And has the same color profile as the Main lens. I also recommend this mode for a very good low-light or maybe even night pictures because it has very low noise

    Please give it a try!
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    20220830 Moderator Information

    After a closer look at the thread, I find it is totally against XDA's standing on the way of sharing.
    As a forum user for years, I spent 20 minutes on this thread back and forth, trying to find the direct links to download files but repeatedly encounter such words "xx is in invitation group" and it leads me to nowhere.
    The whole thread will remain closed until I removed all off topic posts about "invitation group". And I believe this may take a few days.


    20220901 Moderator Information
    TL;DR: all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform

    Wall of Text

    This thread has been cleaned from off topic posts. You may notice that in total about 4 pages of posts are gone (147 vs 143).

    As posted by some users here, this is one of the largesst gcam thread on XDA and the only thread existing for gcam discussion for this device. Unfortunately, it is not very friendly to new gcam users. A newbie, like myself :p, would be 99.5% lost during browsering this thread and the files people talking about were nowhere to find. This must stop.

    I understand a developer's feeling of getting recognization, fulfilled, being needed, helpful, and credited. It is a great achievement to let your hard work to be used by many others. To a developer, getting feedback for sure is a critical way to improve the work. In this thread, I see many users are sharing their work and providiing feedback to each other, not only the main developer here, but each other. I belive in this gcam thread, everyone can develop and you are your own developer. Kudos to every "developers" here. :)

    I also understand the feeling of "losing your work" when you posted it but no one cares or use it without feedback, it feels like "stealing" or "underappreciated". But I believe that is only a tiny portion of users, especially on XDA. And the background reason also varies: some users are new to this development or shy to share or just want to cherry pick the best for themselves. XDA is on internet, and on internet, we see all kinds of people like in your work, in your life. We accept the fact that users are not all perfect but to see the beauty in it: sharing the work with others.

    From now on, please share the xml files directly on XDA. And for OP @Laptapper , I highly suggest you update the first post to include a repo or filehost or any format of summary you like to give others an overview of current progress. For example, you could release a monthly version and then continue ongoing test with users. This is just my suggestion and you have every right to select the way of sharing.

    In the end, I want to emphasize one point:
    all sharing must be happening on XDA or use XDA as major platform. Otherwise it is not allowed by our rules and content will be removed.


    Thanks for reading this wall of text. Hope you all have a good time developing! :D
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    Sharing my personal config, arrived at after months of testing and tweaking:
    - For BSG {Mod edit: Telegram reference removed. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator}, no library needed
    - Tested on M2101K6G (sweet)
    - Based on {Mod edit: Telegram reference removed. Oswald Boelcke, Senior Moderator} (heavily tweaked for reduced noise, more accurate colours, better dynamic range)

    - All cameras configured (main, ultrawide, macro, front)
    Includes stabilised 4k video recording for all cameras (though GCam stabilisation isn't as good as on stock MIUI app)​
    - Photos are sharp and detailed, while still looking natural (no oversharpening halos etc)
    - Colours are natural and accurate but more punchy than stock (especially in low light)

    If you prefer instant photos you can turn off HDR+ Enhanced, but I recommend keeping it on as it gives you improved noise management in main cam, better preserved highlights in ultrawide, and more detail in macro/front at the cost of ~1 sec shutter time. Test for yourself if it's worth it.

    ISSUES:
    - No distortion correction in ultrawide
    - In some cases Night Sight photos may be more noisy than optimal
    - Viewfinder may get too dark to see well at night, you can turn on OpenGL preview to fix this

    This is a work in progress, so let me know what you think!
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    hi guys
    this is the SACHISK MIXED xml with main lens and front cam from KAIRU FINAL -0-.
    in other words, all of Kairu's main lens natural and definition settings entered into Sachisk's XML. So we have the main camera from Kairu, and the rest (ultrawide lens and video recorder and other configs) from Sachisk. for LMC 8.4 x9s.

    i could not change AWB settings, so the main camera has all the settings from Kairu without AWB. AWB settings from Sachisk.


    from my last 3 2 and a half months, a LMC x9s is really quite stable, and an XML SACHISK MIXED presented the best compromise between functionality and good quality so far. I decided to mix the best of Kairu with the best of Sachisk according to my opinion.