[General Discussion] QF001 (ROCO K706) Head Units with UIS 7862s (not FYT based) [read first post first]

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Gyovany96

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I don't know exactly what it is, but with my S5 I had to move the wire to another pin on the connector where the cinch is connected for the input of the video signal from the rear camera. I used the one free blue wire on this connector and moved it to the pin where 12V appeared after engaging reverse. Unfortunately I don't have a photo so I can't show which pin it was right now.
I have an S5 too from Ossuret. I think the only difference is the canbus wiring for each Car.
 

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Maybe you can send me a logger or a debugger that I can use in the units for have some rds log to check and compare with our tsc units.

It would be great if you could update the micro code and access to the stream of radio text.

regards
As soon as I have a working free version I'll share it here.
It's a bit too early right now, many things aren't working and need to be fixed.
Regarding MCU code, i can't reverse engineer it and modify it.
It's just out of my knowledge.
 

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I have a hizpo s8. I had the same in the beginning. But I installed the soft with the date 20230109 and then 20230414 and it's really better. Maybe try.
Today I installed the latest MCU and the latest firmware (8th of may: 4.19). Still the same. Radio reboots every few minutes and 4G turns on and disconnects every 30 seconds. I'm fed up with this internal modem, I ordered a USB wi-fi modem router.
 

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marioti

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Today I installed the latest MCU and the latest firmware (8th of may: 4.19). Still the same. Radio reboots every few minutes and 4G turns on and disconnects every 30 seconds. I'm fed up with this internal modem, I ordered a USB wi-fi modem router.
apparently your Unit is broken. I don't see other solution as to use a warranty. Write to Ossuret. Say them what is going on. They'll tell you to return the unit, as they said to me (I think 15euro for shipping from Poland to China is not so bad anyway)
 
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Hi. I paired my obdii without any problems with my S5 With 4.11 firmware. I remember that someone has some problems. If you would like additional information tell me (type of obdii, ecc.)
Bye
i was aslo able to do this with cheap Vgate 2, but only as a first thing after a cold start. When i pair my phone, can't connect with obd anymore. And it stays like this even when i unpair my phone.
So can you do some tests in similiar condidions?
 

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I use 100% day, night 75%. but it remains equally low during the day. I bought S8 by Hizpo, you?

I have identical default settings also for screen, but those are NOT used to adjust the backlight, and better to leave as default (my picture equal to yours).

There is no other possibility than to further increase the brightness of the backlight of the dispaly...unless someone knows other methods other than Home--trybar lowered-adjust Brightness.

its possible that you got another Display some have IPS others QLED

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i was aslo able to do this with cheap Vgate 2, but only as a first thing after a cold start. When i pair my phone, can't connect with obd anymore. And it stays like this even when i unpair my phone.
So can you do some tests in similiar condidions?
Run Torque app first?

The "trick" with a cold boot is to open the communication, and it appears that the run Torque app can do this.

In any case, paired ONLY the FIRST time Phone and BT OBD, TOGETHER, I will never repeat this again, and when I want to use car diagnostic apps, first run Torque (which I don't use but serves as a "trigger") then close, and then i can use my apps...this with every cold start of the radio.

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also need to set the OBD BT interface you use inside Torque app.
Also NOT all interfaces are ok, but Vgate works though.
 
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TvBIFI

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Ok S8 is also available with IPS or QLED

If you have 1280x720px its QLED. It should have better brightness but smaller viewing angle
 

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Run Torque app first?

The "trick" with a cold boot is to open the communication, and it appears that the run Torque app can do this.

In any case, paired ONLY the FIRST time Phone and BT OBD, TOGETHER, I will never repeat this again, and when I want to use car diagnostic apps, first run Torque (which I don't use but serves as a "trigger") then close, and then i can use my apps...this with every cold start of the radio.

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also need to set the OBD BT interface you use inside Torque app.
Also NOT all interfaces are ok, but Vgate works though.
This is how the OBD works for me also.

I have both BT OBD and Phone paired to the head unit, but I have to ensure OBD and Torque communicate first (with phone BT off). Once OBD and Torque communicates, then I can turn on phone BT and both OBD and Phone will continue to work, until next engine restart (or cold boot).
 
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Hello, I bought an S4 (4G/32go) and I have two problems the "home/backward/volume+-" buttons do not light (I checked in menu and/or change color but nothing). Another problem the bluetooth does not detect (in Torque or not) my "infocar" branded OBD2 (BT LE 4) (my Android phone see it), do you have any idea why?

SYS : QF001.20230304.12156_v3.48_02
MCU : QF03.V01.01.20230314.011021
 

marioti

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Run Torque app first?

The "trick" with a cold boot is to open the communication, and it appears that the run Torque app can do this.

In any case, paired ONLY the FIRST time Phone and BT OBD, TOGETHER, I will never repeat this again, and when I want to use car diagnostic apps, first run Torque (which I don't use but serves as a "trigger") then close, and then i can use my apps...this with every cold start of the radio.

Edit:
also need to set the OBD BT interface you use inside Torque app.
Also NOT all interfaces are ok, but Vgate works though.
Ok I'll check it with torque. bu what if I want to use other app. I test it with VagDPF and CarScanner, and bt not work properly (as I described)
 
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Hello, I bought an S4 (4G/32go) and I have two problems the "home/backward/volume+-" buttons do not light (I checked in menu and/or change color but nothing). Another problem the bluetooth does not detect (in Torque or not) my "infocar" branded OBD2 (BT LE 4) (my Android phone see it), do you have any idea why?

SYS : QF001.20230304.12156_v3.48_02
MCU : QF03.V01.01.20230314.011021
Do you have working canbus? It detect when car light are on and turn on the button backlight

About bt, read posts above, we all have problems with bt connect to obd scanners
 
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Ok I'll check it with torque. bu what if I want to use other app. I test it with VagDPF and CarScanner, and bt not work properly (as I described)
I can use 3 different apps, but only suitable for BMW, to monitor various real-time engine parameters, erase errors in the ECU, etc. and they all work flawlessly.
I use OBD BT Vgate pro, but it also works with the cheaper OBD BT Vgate "simple".
 

MauriBixio

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Hello, I bought an S4 (4G/32go) and I have two problems the "home/backward/volume+-" buttons do not light (I checked in menu and/or change color but nothing). Another problem the bluetooth does not detect (in Torque or not) my "infocar" branded OBD2 (BT LE 4) (my Android phone see it), do you have any idea why?

SYS : QF001.20230304.12156_v3.48_02
MCU : QF03.V01.01.20230314.011021
First of all update the Firmware and MCU with latest version.

For OBD BT read the posts back, I also wrote as I do....but you don't always get positive results with cheap OBD interfaces.
 

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i got same SYS and MCU on mine S8 Ossuret 8+128 as Lymhit. This is the last MCU version for QF03 at the moment as i know, and last "stable" firmware version
 

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    I have a QF03 never had a single issue with it. Have updated to latest firmware and have done 1 mcu update (1 more available not sure if I will install)
    Of course, MANY problems also arise from poor writing of the latest firmware and MCUs released by developers.

    My advice:
    If you have the unit that works well, don't chase constantly new firmware and MCUs, leave the working one as it is.
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    @Zebnastien

    what sort of tape did you use?
    use any thin and elastic tape. it can be even packing tape. there is no special needs.
    If you want some good, personally i recommend kapton tape
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    very small for my thick fingers and old eyes. :rolleyes:
    I haven't been without a watchmaker's magnifying glass for years.
  • 5
    I am writing an answer to my question dedicated to specialists of this topic who do not know how the device works, but only write their guesses, and they confidently think that everyone is stupid!
    Changing the MCU version QF01 to the QF03 version is possible and very easy! Changing the version did not negatively affect my system in any way! The screen did not turn on from time to time and the seller himself told me to change the MCU, sent this version and told me how.
    To change the version of QF01 to QF03, you need to enter the code 774411 in the factory settings and then download a new MCU. The board version has nothing to do with the MCU ! As I understand it, there will be no more MCU 01 version
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    Some features are better on Teyes than Sx.
    The CPUs are not the same, either.

    UI: they are all similar, true, but the graphics of a UI are subjective, I don't like the UIs of both Sx and Teyes, for example.

    A real IMPORTANT point for me is the display, in particular its sharpness, brightness and anti-glare, lasts the day, with direct sun.

    Well, with my S8 8GB\128GB as I have written here several times it is VERY BAD, very low brightness, during the day at 100% almost not readable what is running underneath. Anti-glare film does not exist...

    IF Teyes CC3 2K instead has a better screen, which you can see perfectly during the day, for me it would already be a great thing, even if it costs more than Sx units, but the problem...is all this true or does Teyes just want to advertise\marketing ?

    Anyone who sells advertises their product for sale even more than reality, to sell it...

    ONLY someone who has purchased and uses the latest Teyes CC3 2K units could truly say that!
    Now i'm waiting for cc3 2k, so when it comes, i'll say some more, compare to s8 unit which i use since february
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    I have a QF03 never had a single issue with it. Have updated to latest firmware and have done 1 mcu update (1 more available not sure if I will install)
    Of course, MANY problems also arise from poor writing of the latest firmware and MCUs released by developers.

    My advice:
    If you have the unit that works well, don't chase constantly new firmware and MCUs, leave the working one as it is.
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    Where do you find this menu, show it step by step? It looks completely different for me
    Sending menu sequence
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    Hello,
    I have this headunit in the variant S5:
    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNPpRPg

    It is working fine, but after turning it on the first time the screen went black after five to ten minutes. After turning it off for seconds and turning it back on the screen works fine for a few seconds but then it turns black again.

    The radiator on the back is connected to power so heat shouldn't a problem. When the screen is turned black audio is still working fine and all the my steering wheel controls are working.
    Also the touchscreen is working as well as the buttons on the left side of the display.

    After using it for a few rides (3*20ish km) the sreen turned white 5 minutes after it turned black. Then again it turned black but had some weird grey stripes. These stripes were also visible even after a car stop, whilst i was seeing the home screen.

    Is this a already known issue or did a catch a faulty device?

    The seller was sending me this link after i contacted him about the problem:
    The system firmware link: https://jitu2fixgreenscreen.oss-eu-central-1.aliyuncs.com/update.zip

    A video showing my problem:
    Don't listen to this nonsense about the MCU! I have exactly the same version, upgraded from 01, the seller himself told me and told me how to do it! Everything works well and there are absolutely no problems related to the MCU! I will tell you more that as I understand it, absolutely all new devices work on version 03, and version 01 is no longer supported! The seller himself explained to me that version 03 is an updated version 01. I will tell you that 100% you need to look for a solution to the problem only with the seller! For example, in my case, the seller directly solves problems with the manufacturer and gives me answers the next day. In the same group, since the appearance of version 03, they say that it cannot be installed on 01, they say the board is not the same... In fact, it is very easy to install and the board is the same!
    I write rudely on this issue, because people who write false information based on their guesses are annoying, and when you criticize them, they turn your message into spam!
    NEVER REARRANGE THE MCU ONLY AT WILL! THIS CAN TURN YOUR DEVICE INTO A BRICK, THERE ARE ALREADY A COUPLE OF SUCH CASES IN THIS BRANCH! MAKE SURE 100% THAT THE MCU SUITS YOU, ASK THE SELLER AGAIN, THEN CHANGE IT! IF YOUR DEVICE WORKS PROPERLY, YOU DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE MCU, JUST THE FIRMWARE!
    Look for the answer from the seller!
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    Hello all,

    it seems that there are some QF001 owners out there but not much informations. So i will try to collect everything and put it at one place.

    The original manufactor is shenzhen jitu technology co. ltd.

    These units are sold from Ossuret, Hizpo and other brands. This are the sellers specs:
    specs.JPG


    The Android 12 is fake which is Android 10 in reality.

    I have the 8/128GB Version myself:
    Screenshot_20221129-085346.png


    Codes for the factory settings menu:

    Different firmware versions are inside this thread. Take care of the right MCU file and beware that clear user data is enabled by default on update. There is also a dedicated firmware thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-with-uis-7862a-7862s-not-fyt-based.4541261/

    Dedicated thread for gaining recovery access: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...uret-s4-s8-uis-7862-headunits-no-fyt.4538107/

    Beside the faked Android 12 Version the head unit seems to be a good bang for the buck. I´ve paid around 230 Euros including VAT and shipping. The unit runs stable and powerful so far. Everything works as expected. The Android is a bit downcutted by the manufactor. There are no text notifications in the statusbar e.g. But i can compensate that with widgets.

    Against the description android auto works wireless with my Xiaomi Mi10t pro. So that's also nice to have.

    Tweaks, mods and others:
    - my wire harness was labeled wrong. Key 2 and Key GND were swapped. So better check the cables before connecting. For me the correct wire names/functions were in the printed manual.

    - replacement fan that fits my model: Sunon MF35101V21000UA99

    - there's a sleep whitelist in the factory settings menu that prevents apps from being killed in standby mode (ignition off). That's very useful. I've whitelisted Google maps e.g. and don't lose my programmed route anymore if i turn off the engine for a short stop.

    - tasker trigger for warm boot: detect any USB device connected. (You have to plug in something into the usb port, dashcam or pendrive e.g.)

    - the status bar only shows a few symbols and no text notifications. Therefore I use a notification widget in combination with nova launcher. This way I can see all notifications in a widget which would be at the status bar originally.

    - wireless ADB is enabled by default with root user. 🎉 The port is 9876. ( I've found that inside the build.prop)

    - if you want to have a look inside the firmware you can use a rom kitchen tool like CBR

    - how to change the boot logo:
    1. If your player is 1280*720 screen, you need to rotate the picture 90 degree, and cut it into 720*1280 size, transform the picture to .BMP format.
    2. If your player is 1024*600 screen, you need to cut the picture to 1024*600 size, transform the picture to .BMP format.
    3. copy the picture into your Udisk root path, and then connect Udisk to the player. follow the steps settings-factory-8888-Logo set-then you can see your picture and select it- click update logo.
    - how to change boot animation: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...uis-7862s-not-fyt-based.4525675/post-88086835

    - enhance the microphone and call quality by using the external microphone and disable the internal microphone by masking two pins of a ribbon cable. It's explained inside this thread (link to post will follow)

    - GPS tweak: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...uis-7862s-not-fyt-based.4525675/post-88112693

    Known issues:
    - "hey Google" (activate the assistant by hotword) doesn't work
    - no car speed dependent volume control (manufacturer says it would be implemented later)
    - the firmware is a debug release which is a serious security risk (every app or malware can get root access through ADB shell). On the upside you can also get root access through ADB and do everything you want

    To be continued...

    Cheers
    blue_one
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    Hi all, if anybody would like to test a very early alpha version of NavRadio(basic), they can find it here:
    Download NavRadio BASIC for QF01

    it's incomplete, full of bugs, it surely crash here and there but still usable.
    I have enabled Google Crashlytics to help me debug all the crash and ANR so more people use it and more i'll fix it.

    The full version will come when the free version will run smootly.
    Enjoy;)


    NOTES:

    - Autoscan is done by MCU and it's fixed to 18 stations. Anyway you can use Autoseek function to find more stations or add new ones to the existing ones.
    - The first frequency at startup need to be fixed.
    - Sometimes you can hear the sound muting for a second, it's because the ROCO service think that navradio is a player and not a radio. I'll look for a fix later on..
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    And now a few more!

    1122 / 2211 - both popup a bubble with chinese text. I thought they were the same at first but they have different characters. (They both have the word “log” in it)

    6655 - opens up a screen that appears to be the same as 555666 but these are also in Chinese so I don’t know if there are differences. Notably when you enter this menu with either code it will record a snippet of audio from the mic and play it back.

    4455 - engineer mode (lots of stuff in here to explore, includes adb shell)

    5544 - gps stuff

    1212 - notification that says “slog copied to unkown”

    2121 - seems to just take you home

    45645600 - download mcu file
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    How did you discover the codes?
    Just by trying a bunch of different codes and looking for patterns. Starting by looking at the codes we already knew I discovered they are all a repeating sequence of digits that are adjacent to each other on the keypad. Once you find a pattern there’s usually another code that uses the same pattern somewhere else on the keypad. If you actually type in the codes and look at the physical pattern they make you’ll see what I mean. For example 114477 is just the digits in the left column of the keypad going down. 336699 is the same pattern in the right column. And then some codes are just variations on top of that, like doing a code in reverse (which we already knew) as well as adding 00 to the end of some. This is how I discovered all the codes. Once I’d find one code Id try that same pattern in all places and variations. Simple as that! I’m sure there’s more patterns yet to be discovered so try different ideas out and see what you can find. With many people using these strategies I’m sure we can discover more! I may have even missed a few using the patterns of ones I found.
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    For whom that's interested and is annoyed that display time is out of sync with atomic network clock time.

    Myself don't use 4G network, but WIFI hotspot from phone.

    Each time when I opened the GPS test app, time changed and was out of sync by 2 to 4 minutes, also when I forgot to put hotspot on my phone on, after that it was taken the GPS time sync by default after startup,
    So first taken my right hotspot network time and changed 30 seconds later to the out of sync GPS time, it was also out of sync with my OEM Opel board computer display.
    With some hassle I could changed that back but needed to be sure that hotspot was always on before starting the car.

    Think I found a solution.

    Note, I don't use sleep mode, always have a fresh cold start, unit starts up with firmware date and time, 09-01-2023, 12:05:54.

    After going in the factory 5544 GPS setting, changed on first tab screen "agps" the server SUPL host to supl.google.com, changed port to 7276 (seems secure port), but you also can leave it on 7275, then tab screen "information", on the bottom page changed the satellites to GPS, Glonass, Galileo, my problem disappeared.

    My unit correctly shows the time now, after a start-up it is in sync within 1 second compared to atomic clock, with or without hotspot, mean also without network connection it syncs with GPS satellites the time correct.
    The AGPS SUPL was using the Chinese host (supl.qxwz.com) and preferred what it looks some Chinese satellites for Glonass and Galileo and somehow the Chinese GPS time is inaccurate.

    Rather Google then the Chinese that follows me ;)