Google app/Google search question about crashes

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Hi all,

I know there are quite a few people with issues on the google app crashing and I thought it might be helpful to see if we could collate different people's experience here - what hardware (RK?), rom, version etc, in case there is a particular version that works.

I have a RK3066/stock rom configuration. In terms of the version I have tried:

So 3.3.12 didn't crash at all in my brief test . But can't voice dial, guess they changed how it works some point after that .

5.4.x can crash repeatedly, best case feels like every other time. It also does not pick up my navigate requests correctly.

4.9.22 crashes infrequently so far. Never repeatedly which is importantly , worst every other time,usual say every five attempts.

4.7.x similar to 4.9.22

4.5.x - crashed alot

4.1.x crashes every 2-3 attempts, but can voice dial with this version (and above).

There is a 5.12 beta I haven' tried.

APKs at http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-search/

Finally, is there a way of logging the detail of a google app crash - to see if there is something specific causing it?

Cheers

 

[TT_Vert]

Another option.. I played w/ it on my phone and it was pretty nice. It does rely on google voice search so who knows if it'll crash also.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-get-voice-access-beta/

 

[p_mike83]

Another option.. I played w/ it on my phone and it was pretty nice. It does rely on google voice search so who knows if it'll crash also.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-get-voice-access-beta/

Minimum android version is lollipop

 

[TT_Vert]

Well that sucks a big one. To be honest it started to annoy me today. Couldn't fund out how to quickly turn it off

 

[hans109h]

I would prefer to dig into why it crashes rather them retry to replace it. We know Goggle Voice works well when it works we just need to keep it working.

Unfortunately I really don't know where to start with it. I wish I had a bench top unit so I didn't always need to be in my car.

Is anyone running a HU emulator?

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

I would prefer to dig into why it crashes rather them retry to replace it. We know Goggle Voice works well when it works we just need to keep it working.

Unfortunately I really don't know where to start with it. I wish I had a bench top unit so I didn't always need to be in my car.

Is anyone running a HU emulator?

Yes I think this will get us furthest, if we can understand why it crashes, then maybe there is a work around. Is it to do with microphone readiness, data connection or some other launch/ROM issue????

Having a crash free google app voice search would turn this HU from good to virtually perfect for me!

 

[p_mike83]

Yes I think this will get us furthest, if we can understand why it crashes, then maybe there is a work around. Is it to do with microphone readiness, data connection or some other launch/ROM issue????

Having a crash free google app voice search would turn this HU from good to virtually perfect for me!

On my device it crashed offer if radio was playing during while I initiated the search. But it crashed also when the radio was not playing.

 

[dj.martzian]

On my device it crashed offer if radio was playing during while I initiated the search. But it crashed also when the radio was not playing.

On my HU is crashing all the time. I'm using the latest ROM from Malay Master. I have tried different version(some are crashes often, some rarely), but until now I didn't find a solution/workaround to this problem.

Still investigating...

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

On my HU is crashing all the time. I'm using the latest ROM from Malay Master. I have tried different version(some are crashes often, some rarely), but until now I didn't find a solution/workaround to this problem.

Still investigating...

So are you able to say which are more stable? And what hardware do you have?

 

[dj.martzian]

So are you able to say which are more stable? And what hardware do you have?

The most stable is version 4.9.22.19 from apkmirror.com
HU Technical Specs: RK3188, 1024x600
Here is the link with the product:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...r-DVD-Player-For-FORD-MONDEO/32563024121.html

Best Regards,
D.

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

The most stable is version 4.9.22.19 from apkmirror.com
HU Technical Specs: RK3188, 1024x600
Here is the link with the product:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...r-DVD-Player-For-FORD-MONDEO/32563024121.html

Best Regards,
D.

Yes, I also thought that 4.9.22 is one of the most stable of those that I have tried and have proper functionality. I'm on RK3066 and stock ROM. Interesting that your RK3188 doesn't improve things markedly, I don't think it is a processing power issue.

I was thinking about this a little bit more, I remember trying 3.3.12 (or whatever is the stock one installed) and it was very stable, but can't voice dial on it; 4.1.x etc start to crash so I wonder if there is information out there about the main changes that happened between these versions and so what might be causing it. is it something that has greater dependency on a good wifi connection or something else or some kind of software module that's not meshing right with the HU?

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

I found this in an old thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48854301&postcount=714

Got Google Now working, sort of anyway. Here's how I did it.

1. install an old PrebulitGMSCore apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8WVI2YWg3TFZ4MTg/edit?usp=sharing (Google Play Services).
2. install Velvet apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8X2t2MzQ4MkMyd1U/edit?usp=sharing (Google Now).
3. this step probably not be needed as I was trying to install Google Home Launcher, install Google Home apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8OU9odi1ZRzJ5cHM/edit?usp=sharing (Google Home Launcher).
4. launch Google Now, it will detect a new version, update it.

I can use Google Now to launch default Radio and Music app by "play music" and "play radio".
"play disc" not working for me, neither are "navigate home" and "navigate office", they just get normal search results.

Has anyone gone done the route of changing the PrebulitGMSCore apk but with a more functional Google Now etc?

 

[hans109h]

I'm hesitant to dig into this until Malaysk's next update that will be out soon.

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Hello all,

I made some good progress, although with one drawback.

Today I tried v3.6 (I think it was 3.6.16) from apkmirror. And tried it just under ten times with NO crashes. A record for my head unit!!

v3.6 does have calling functionality, and navigate works fine too.

The only drawback seems to be the play music function (I really only need these three functions as everything else I do is quite straightforward from steering wheel controls). It doesn't seem to bring up poweramp and play the music as later versions do....But maybe this is something can be resolved by settings, I need to investigate more when I am back in the car.

Please can others try this and contribute to the thread - I feel I am so close to having this up and running well!

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

I'm going to continue posting on this thread, although it does somewhat feel like I am talking to myself.

So in the car a couple more times today. Absolutely no crashes on this version of 3.6.16 (what did they change after that which made it no work so well on MTCB HU?). When online, call and navigation work brill, don't know why it refused to play ball on play music.

Messing around with some voice command apps, and still testing this, but this sorts out the play music, and play music and navigate commands work well when offline - but just cant seem to get call to recognise properly when offline - it would be the last missing link for me - think it might be something that can be customised to be fixed though - will update when I figure this last bit out!

 

[TT_Vert]

I'll play with this soon also.

Dave

 

[hans109h]

I'm swamped right now but I will try to test it later in the week.

 

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Ok, that would be great - was in the car again this morning and seemed to work fine. If someone knows how to make this version work well with the play music command (i.e. find local music and load it in poweramp), that would be great!

The other reason why i went to 3.6 is that it offline voices is meant to work but it isn't. I am wondering if the gapps version needs to also be rolled back to an earlier version for offline voices to work.

 

[Popeye_NL]

I'm going to continue posting on this thread, although it does somewhat feel like I am talking to myself.

Please continue to talk to yourself, i'm listening
I hope to give version 3.6.16 a try later today and I'll post my results here.

There are some things I need to figure out to make this HU (almost) perfect and a stable voice command/search certainly is one of them.

 

[hans109h]

I loaded 3.6.16 today and so far no issues. Do you happen to have a chameleon or version history so we can try to bisect this?