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I keep reading mentions of the new chip and the mnemonic SoC. What does that stand for?
SoC means System on a Chip. Anyone correct me if I'm off a little, but it refers to CPUs that contain many or almost all integrated capabilities in one discreet package (a "chip"). Meaning USB port capabilities, bunches of others. Generally almost everything except for things covered by the separate modem chips, which probably focus everything on anything wireless - Voice, Mobile Data, Wi-Fi, NFC, Bluetooth, and whatever else there is.

There's a System on a Chip Wikipedia entry - the third search result for "SoC" from the top for me. https://www.google.com/search?q=SoC&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The common meaning is *not* "Security operations center" despite it having the top results. LOL!
 
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Any TMobile users have the error 111 message when sending texts. It happens enough to be an issue. I searched forums but didn't see anything
 
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Any TMobile users have the error 111 message when sending texts. It happens enough to be an issue. I searched forums but didn't see anything
You should create a new question thread for the issue. I think a lot of folks don't pay attention to these stickied threads as much, plus with the issue spelled out in the thread title, it'll likely get more attention.
 
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Hey folks

I have a question here. Right now i have the MI 11 Ultra and need to buy a new phone 🙄
I never tried a Google phone and everywhere i see pll complain about bad software, etc, etc... Is this for real?? Please be honest to me.

I was close to order the S22 ultra, but meehhh, not much new about it. Had S21 ultra 4 month ago, been there, done that.

Hope for some clarification 🙏🏻
 
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Hey folks

A have a question here. Right now i have the MI 11 Ultra and need to buy a new phone 🙄
I never tried a Google phone and everywhere i see pll complain about bad software, et, etc... Is this for real?? Please be honest to me.

I was close to order the S22 ultra, but meehhh, not much new about it. Had S21 ultra 4 month ago, been there, done that.

Hope for some clarification 🙏🏻
Hello! First, I am among those who haven't had 99% of the troubles a lot of folks have complained about the Pixel 6 Pro. The fingerprint reader has always worked great for me this past 100+ days my wife and I have had ours.

I had and really, *really* liked the Pixel 1 until almost two years ago. Since Google hadn't yet come out with a 512 GB model Pixel at the time, my wife and I ended up getting the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model (plus of course, the Note + model had MicroSD cards).

The Samsung hardware, and especially the stylus (Samsung owns patents that keep any other manufacturer from having quite as nice stylus technology), was excellent, other than the typical trouble finding tempered glass screen protectors for curved screens, just as it is for the Pixel 6 Pro (but now we have Whitestone tempered glass on both of our phones - the first time I've ever gone through the gluing process for screen protectors).

Now we both have the 512 GB model of the factory unlocked Pixel 6 Pro, and I'm glad to be back on stock Android. Maybe the hardware isn't quite as good, but the software works much better for my own experience. I do believe those who have problems with their P6Ps, I, and at least some others, just have not had those experiences.

I have a list regarding things I didn't like about Samsung which I've saved because this question has come up so much:

For the Note 10+, complaints were:

Slow ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader. Some folks have the same complaint about the P6P's optical in-screen, but it's worked very, very well for me.

Samsung's duplication of multiple services that Google supplies. You have to know what you're looking for and jump through all the proper hoops/settings to set defaults back to Google's solutions since that's what I prefer.
Related to Samsung's duplication of services/apps, their phone app duplicated a bunch of my contacts (and even tripled some) in a way that Google doesn't recognize them as duplicates, so I'd have to go through manually, compare, and delete or consolidate contacts.

How customization of the active Quick Setting tiles was set was really frustrating, up through and including Android 11 on the Note 10+. When it gave a list of the QS Tiles I had to choose from (to add to those that normally show), it presented them in a single horizontal scrolling row across the top of the screen only and in no order that made sense to this human, instead of Google's method of displaying all the tiles available in all of the screen real estate that's available, so even if the order the "inactive" ones doesn't make sense, at least I can see 14 of them all at once and only have a little over two pages of them instead of 8 pages of single-row QS tiles to choose what to activate. This is particularly frustrating when using third-party apps to enable better performing QS tiles for WiFi or Mobile Data toggling or other purposes, so I would have more than one nearly identical-looking toggle that would get confusing to choose from, and from what I remember, the custom third-party app-created QS tiles weren't necessarily together or at the very end of the scrolling list.

Despite disabling all background snoozing for particular apps like GMail, Hangouts/Chat, etc, I couldn't get timely notifications of emails and chat. This was particularly troublesome for work, which also uses Google for everything. I opt not to have a work-supplied phone as it would be iOS. As an aside, my coworkers who do have iPhones from work also have trouble with some chat notifications not being obvious or immediate or some such, so that wouldn't necessarily be a solution anyway.

Before the Note 10+ (on the Pixel 1 I used before it), my emails and chat notifications came through immediately. I sometimes got email notifications for work several hours after. I do enough multi-tasking and when I'm very busy I just don't get a chance to flip back to my Chrome GMail window on the computer so I rely on the phone notifications.

Sometimes I would get a phone notification of an email (both personal and work) in the GMail app hours after I had already seen the email in Chrome on the PC and had deleted it or in some cases at least definitely had read it and didn't do anything further with it.

My brother has a Galaxy S9+. This has been his and his big extended family's first smartphones of any kind. When I complained to him about the late or useless Note 10+ GMail and chat notifications, he told me he experiences the exact same thing and he assumed that was just the way Android is.

Factory resets and all disabling of background snoozing of affected apps didn't help at all.

Samsung gimped Do Not Disturb. When DnD came out with (I think it was 5.0 Lollipop), I hated it and gave up on it quickly. I don't remember at what point I started actually using it on the Pixel 1, but they definitely improved it tons. I don't recall exactly what Samsung's implementation was missing but it was very noticeable having come from the Pixel 1 and no longer being able to do some things. I think what Samsung was missing was the ultra-fine granularity of configuration I could do for each and every scheduled and common/unscheduled DnD profile as to what exceptions were allowed to get past DnD. They had some of it implemented but missing enough that it stuck out at the time.

Now that I have the P6P, I can say that the Note 10+'s night mode camera shots were really bad. I think they were worse than even the Pixel 1s'. The P6P does wonders with what little light is available, by comparison.

There may have been more but I can't recall at this time.

I did like the built-in stylus. My wife used hers tons more than I did, but it would be handy for Google Photos' magic eraser and for other things. Samsung owns patents that would keep anyone else's stylus from being quite as useful or convenient, however. If I remember correctly, between Apple and Samsung's stylus patents, everyone else's stylus just can't compare.
 

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Hello my pixel fellows!

So, I'm due to buy a new phone, I've used Nexus in the past (the classic N5 hammerhead, after N6P), and several other phones in the meantime including S9+ and now a Redmi Note 9 Pro.

I'm bouncing between Pixel 6 Pro and S22 Ultra, mostly because of the stylus,not that I need it, just fancy it.
I also prefered the development (custom roms) and early access to new android versions. The design came a long way for sure and it looks gorgeous!

So, my question, hoping for an honest reply, what do you guys think? Since I'm in the UK I would likely only able to get the Exynos version of the S22 anyway, and according to some posts here on XDA, it seems to drag a little bit and a bit of lag.

May I ask whoever wishes to share their opinion? I'm likely to order this week.

Also I noticed the P6 Pro doesn't have much development going on, I'm guessing it will bloom a bit? I miss those times, Franco kernel still around?

Thank you for your time, and sharing your opinion if you decide to do it :)
 
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Hello @MidnightDevil!

My post #24 in this thread for tons of details why, but TL;DR - I'll likely never go back to Samsung.

Good luck and I hope you enjoy whatever you end up getting.


Thanks, that was one first posts I've read about it, I've used Nexus before and I absolutely loved the smoothness and development of it, although at the time we've had plenty of other custom roms available which I don't see them around today anymore.

Anyway, thanks, was a really good read! Pixel has been ordered :)
 
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Thanks, that was one first posts I've read about it, I've used Nexus before and I absolutely loved the smoothness and development of it, although at the time we've had plenty of other custom roms available which I don't see them around today anymore.

Anyway, thanks, was a really good read! Pixel has been ordered :)
You're welcome! Personally, I think there's plenty of development. There are 3-4 custom kernels, Magisk Modules, and other modifications for the stock ROM. I haven't wanted to run a non-stock ROM in over five years (pretty much since I bought the Pixel 1), but there actually are ROMs available, you just might have to Google for them.

I hope you like it! :)
 
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You're welcome! Personally, I think there's plenty of development. There are 3-4 custom kernels, Magisk Modules, and other modifications for the stock ROM. I haven't wanted to run a non-stock ROM in over five years (pretty much since I bought the Pixel 1), but there actually are ROMs available, you just might have to Google for them.

I hope you like it! :)
To be fair, my ideal setup after going through a bunch of custom ROMs (screwed android, paranoid, and a couple others which and I can't remember), I found out a custom kernel (at the time Franco kernel) and plain vanilla android was the best in terms of performance and battery life. Just enough kernel customisation and settings to find the perfect experience. It should arrive on Thursday, looking forward to it :))
 
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Arrived today, and it's absolutely awesome! I missed this butter smoothness, camera is absolutely stunning, screen us amazing! So far so good!
Yay! Remember, if you're going to unlock the bootloader, do it right away since doing so will wipe your phone clean.
 

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Hi. Is it worth switching from OnePlus 9Pro to Pixel 6Pro? OST on my 9Pro is garbage, i dont recive every notofication (no matter which settings), auto rotation is deactivated every restart, battery mangement is resettet very restart. etc. etc. etc.
 
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Hi. Is it worth switching from OnePlus 9Pro to Pixel 6Pro? OST on my 9Pro is garbage, i dont recive every notofication (no matter which settings), auto rotation is deactivated every restart, battery mangement is resettet very restart. etc. etc. etc.
I've never used OnePlus so I can't really compare. I know I get consistent notifications much better than on my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ that I had before my P6P. Before that, I was using a Pixel 1 and I was only waiting for a Pixel that had 512 GB of storage like you can get in the P6P, since there's no MicroSD card slot on the Pixels. I'll never go Samsung again (for a phone) as I had a horrible time getting GMail / Chat notifications.

I still get slightly inconsistent GMail / Chat notifications but not anywhere nearly as bad as on my Samsung. On my Samsung, sometimes I would get notifications hours after I should've, and sometimes I got GMail notifications that I had already seen on my computer and had deleted.

Some folks complain about SoT on the Pixel 6, but I haven't noticed anything too bad. I just don't pay as close attention to how my battery / screen does as some users. I treat my battery gently - I usually don't let it go lower than 25% and I only charge it up to 75%. That 50% range usually lasts me 24 hours for my usage, but I also very rarely play games on my phone these days.
 

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    Hi. Is it worth switching from OnePlus 9Pro to Pixel 6Pro? OST on my 9Pro is garbage, i dont recive every notofication (no matter which settings), auto rotation is deactivated every restart, battery mangement is resettet very restart. etc. etc. etc.
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    Indeed, agree with both of you.

    Our site is optimized for mobile webviewing and that does allow you to filter by Development etc and is actually pretty usable and better in many ways than the App is currently. So setting some Mobile browser bookmarks can be a good way to go.

    Mike
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    Also, howdy Mike. Long time no see. Been a few years since I even posted on the forums.
    Careful, or the Pixel 6 Pro forum could end up turning into a cesspool!
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    I meant like the typical sub forums, accessories, guides news discussion, themes apps mods, q & a, roms kernels recoveries, etc

    Personally, I don't have a problem with the current organization where you can click on one of the filters to only look at Guides or Development, if you want to focus on one of them.

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    Yes the filters that you can click on are the way we do forums now. It is much less server intensive and allows pages to load much faster. The old style sub forums were really slowing down the site.

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    So yes, all you do is click on the Development tab to show all the Development threads or General to see only General etc.. it's the same effect really as having a development sub forum.

    Mike