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911Guy

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most popular carriers should work fine with dual SIM. but some use proprietary carrier profiles that make it difficult to work in AOSP without specific google services. this is rare but does happen. if you're on the fence maybe ask in the matrix room regarding your setup and see if somebody else with similar setup has it working.

GPay won't work (last time I checked a few weeks ago) it's sort of like Android Auto and Google Games.... they require google services that aren't yet fully supported (rightly so) for them to work correctly.

it sounds like you use a ton of apps for work. most should work but it's not guaranteed. sometimes it's best to grab a used pixel 3 for a hundred bucks or something (if its possible), and test out your apps. in your case I would try using a separate phone for work but that's just my opinion. but even buying a phone with a good return policy, and installing GOS and all your apps - to ensure they work, is what I would recommend (although that's sometimes hard to do in some countries).

to check if your apps work, you can look on here: plexus.techlore.tech
although that doesn't tell the whole story because with sandboxed play services things do work better and have more compatibility.
Ok, I'm going to do it!! See if it all works...

If not, I'll just have to flash it back to stock is all.

Thanks for the input, really appreciate it!
 

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This is so amazing, I completely hadn't noticed this was an option! Just did it, brand-new Google account, using VPN and only for non-open source apps. Just need to figure out if the apps that are already installed via Aurora can be automatically be updated via the Play Store or if I have to uninstall them and re-install them (they are not showing in my Google account as they were installed before re-adding the Play Store.)

And any advantage of Using Aurora over the Play Store if I'm logged in anyway?
they won't cross update. my recommendation is to move everything to the Play Store, now that you have a good throw-away google account (with fake info etc). the play store on GOS will update your apps once you've given them permission to install (and update once but I think it works just after main install). if you have play store working, use that. I am doing the same and trust the devs behind GrapheneOS. they recommend it also.

there is a small caveat though with battery usage. play services need network access or they'll kill your battery. I can't remember the exact issue, something like the apps keep trying to locate a network connection (not to a specific url) and it drains the battery... but it makes sense. the only thing google will see see are the apps you've installed in the Play Store, and model of phone. pretty much everything else isn't identified. GrapheneOS really goes above and beyond to block all unnecessary identifiers.

Also, some users think that having no play services is better for battery usage but that's not entirely proven. There's a ton of battery saving services and features in regular play services, and if you don't have FCM, some apps can really drain your battery checking waiting for notifications. it's getting better but sometimes it happens...
 
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they won't cross update. my recommendation is to move everything to the Play Store, ......................
Basically I installed the three recommended apps, mentioned in Graphene usage guide, that are part of Play services. App updates pop up like normal.

Battery life is not too bad for my usage pattern. Gets me through the entire day with out any issues. YMMV.

Would Highly recommend Graphene OS if you don't want to install G-Bloatware.
 

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they won't cross update. my recommendation is to move everything to the Play Store, now that you have a good throw-away google account (with fake info etc). the play store on GOS will update your apps once you've given them permission to install (and update once but I think it works just after main install). if you have play store working, use that. I am doing the same and trust the devs behind GrapheneOS. they recommend it also.

there is a small caveat though with battery usage. play services need network access or they'll kill your battery. I can't remember the exact issue, something like the apps keep trying to locate a network connection (not to a specific url) and it drains the battery... but it makes sense. the only thing google will see see are the apps you've installed in the Play Store, and model of phone. pretty much everything else isn't identified. GrapheneOS really goes above and beyond to block all unnecessary identifiers.

Also, some users think that having no play services is better for battery usage but that's not entirely proven. There's a ton of battery saving services and features in regular play services, and if you don't have FCM, some apps can really drain your battery checking waiting for notifications. it's getting better but sometimes it happens...
Yes, I can confirm apps installed using Aurora do not automatically sync with the Play Store, unless manually updated. A bit of a hassle, but I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.

Good to know about Play Services and battery usage. It is a bit annoying Google will see are the apps I've installed in the Play Store, and model of phone, but hopefully I can keep the account anonymous, so that should not be an issue.

On a different note, I'm having some issues connecting my Jabra earphones to my Pixel 6 Pro after installing GOS. Other Bluetooth devices work fine, but I can't find my Jabras using the Bluetooth menu. I've asked in the GOS Element chat but no answer there yet. Anyone experiencing these issues?
 

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Yes, I can confirm apps installed using Aurora do not automatically sync with the Play Store, unless manually updated. A bit of a hassle, but I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.

Good to know about Play Services and battery usage. It is a bit annoying Google will see are the apps I've installed in the Play Store, and model of phone, but hopefully I can keep the account anonymous, so that should not be an issue.

On a different note, I'm having some issues connecting my Jabra earphones to my Pixel 6 Pro after installing GOS. Other Bluetooth devices work fine, but I can't find my Jabras using the Bluetooth menu. I've asked in the GOS Element chat but no answer there yet. Anyone experiencing these issues?
the jabras shouldn't require an app ( I don't think). enable bluetooth, go to the bluetooth menu, put the jabras in pairing mode and search... that's all I could really recommend right now. as for the app, try to give it every permission available (mic, phone, etc) and anything under advanced. other than that ask in the off-topic section of Graphene and see if anybody else has a similar setup (even check to see if anybody has bluetooth headphones working with GOS on P6)
 

Nate_Lines

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the jabras shouldn't require an app ( I don't think). enable bluetooth, go to the bluetooth menu, put the jabras in pairing mode and search... that's all I could really recommend right now. as for the app, try to give it every permission available (mic, phone, etc) and anything under advanced. other than that ask in the off-topic section of Graphene and see if anybody else has a similar setup (even check to see if anybody has bluetooth headphones working with GOS on P6)
Thank you, Alekos. It was actually a problem of the earbuds. I've reset them and they work now, even without the app!
 
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Alekos

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Put it on my tab! :D

Joking aside, happy to share my experience with the ROM in the future. Thanks again!
for sure,
update us in a week or two. I don't even have it installed yet on my 6 Pro (just the 3XL)!
I like reading the progress with GrapheneOS on their tweets, it's so detailed - it's great. and they have some of the best documentation I've ever seen. Cyanogen/Lineage etc don't come close to what's available on their website. kind of remarkable actually
 
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if you don't have FCM, some apps can really drain your battery checking waiting for notifications.

This could happen if the software you install uses poorly implemented high-rate polling or whatever for frequent checking. A well implemented push service using SSE or WS will have basically negligible impact on battery usage, even if you're sending keepaloves at a preposterous 60 second interval.
 
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911Guy

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most popular carriers should work fine with dual SIM. but some use proprietary carrier profiles that make it difficult to work in AOSP without specific google services. this is rare but does happen. if you're on the fence maybe ask in the matrix room regarding your setup and see if somebody else with similar setup has it working.

GPay won't work (last time I checked a few weeks ago) it's sort of like Android Auto and Google Games.... they require google services that aren't yet fully supported (rightly so) for them to work correctly.

it sounds like you use a ton of apps for work. most should work but it's not guaranteed. sometimes it's best to grab a used pixel 3 for a hundred bucks or something (if its possible), and test out your apps. in your case I would try using a separate phone for work but that's just my opinion. but even buying a phone with a good return policy, and installing GOS and all your apps - to ensure they work, is what I would recommend (although that's sometimes hard to do in some countries).

to check if your apps work, you can look on here: plexus.techlore.tech
although that doesn't tell the whole story because with sandboxed play services things do work better and have more compatibility.

Ok, I'm going to do it!! See if it all works...

If not, I'll just have to flash it back to stock is all.

Thanks for the input, really appreciate it!
UPDATE: Well, almost all my apps work well except Android Auto & GPay, which I can easily live without ... BUT ... what I can't live without is the DUAL SIM and GOS does not appear to support this. The buttons are there to add an additional sim, but nothing happens when they are clicked, and thus cannot add a second sim.

So, I can't use GOS until this feature is functional.

Does anyone know of another security-tightened OS that does support DUAL SIM?
 

911Guy

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UPDATE: Well, almost all my apps work well except Android Auto & GPay, which I can easily live without ... BUT ... what I can't live without is the DUAL SIM and GOS does not appear to support this. The buttons are there to add an additional sim, but nothing happens when they are clicked, and thus cannot add a second sim.

So, I can't use GOS until this feature is functional.

Does anyone know of another security-tightened OS that does support DUAL SIM?
UPDATED UPDATE:

Ok, DUAL SIM DOES WORK ... but this is how it needs to be done:

  1. Ensure that the E-Sim (Second Sim) is setup in stock BEFORE you install GOS
  2. Now install GOS as per the instructions
  3. Once GOS is installed, open the PHONE app.
  4. In the PHONE app, enter this EXACTLY: *#*#INFO#*#* *#*#4636#*#*
  5. This will pop-up a special window called "TESTING" with other options...
  6. Click on the one that says, "PHONE INFORMATION" and wait (there is a small delay)
  7. There is a lot of information here but scroll down to "ENABLE DSDS" and slide the radio button to turn on this feature.
  8. Back out of this window and you're done ... E-SIM now works, and the second number will be active!!
 

Alekos

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UPDATED UPDATE:

Ok, DUAL SIM DOES WORK ... but this is how it needs to be done:

  1. Ensure that the E-Sim (Second Sim) is setup in stock BEFORE you install GOS
  2. Now install GOS as per the instructions
  3. Once GOS is installed, open the PHONE app.
  4. In the PHONE app, enter this EXACTLY: *#*#INFO#*#* *#*#4636#*#*
  5. This will pop-up a special window called "TESTING" with other options...
  6. Click on the one that says, "PHONE INFORMATION" and wait (there is a small delay)
  7. There is a lot of information here but scroll down to "ENABLE DSDS" and slide the radio button to turn on this feature.
  8. Back out of this window and you're done ... E-SIM now works, and the second number will be active!!
I remember reading about this workaround in the Calyx rooms. great you got it to work.
I blame Telus though. somehow it's always their fault ha (Robbers & Bell included)
 

96carboard

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UPDATE: Well, almost all my apps work well except Android Auto & GPay, which I can easily live without ... BUT ... what I can't live without is the DUAL SIM and GOS does not appear to support this. The buttons are there to add an additional sim, but nothing happens when they are clicked, and thus cannot add a second sim.

So, I can't use GOS until this feature is functional.

Does anyone know of another security-tightened OS that does support DUAL SIM?

It apparently does work, but has to be set up in advance of switching. There is ongoing work to build the missing pieces; https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/159
 

Alekos

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I guess there isn't a FOSS section here on xda (or something like that) - a forum or community section to talk about GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS (and Stock Android too). there are so many good apps available from so many sources (fdroid, Aurora, Github). and the privacy community has so many great suggestions, tips and tricks - helpful for all of us.
If I had blogs like this , this or this - a few years ago, it would have helped so much. It doesn't matter what OS you use (even Stock Android) - there are great ways to minimize obtrusive tracking, ads, surveillance and data mining.

any chance a small section can be made?
who can be contacted on xda to look into this? (I don't want to start messaging any mods etc)
 
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The.Jericho.Initiative

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I guess there isn't a FOSS section here on xda (or something like that) - a forum or community section to talk about GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS (and Stock Android too). there are so many good apps available from so many sources (fdroid, Aurora, Github). and the privacy community has so many great suggestions, tips and tricks - helpful for all of us.
If I had blogs like this , this or this - a few years ago, it would have helped so much. It doesn't matter what OS you use (even Stock Android) - there are great ways to minimize obtrusive tracking, ads, surveillance and data mining.

any chance a small section can be made?
who can be contacted on xda to look into this? (I don't want to start messaging any mods etc)

To be honest, I can't find anything conveniently on XDA anymore. It used to be very direct, very apparent what worked and where. Now I feel like I have to know what I'm looking for to be able to find it... While a valid expectation for searches, it is rather contrary to exploratory browsing.

Being able to determine that something is a mod, for rooted installs, still doesn't tell me what I need to know about its applicability to MY hardware and software unless I dive into each and every thread I encounter - even then I might be left guessing.

So yeah, I guess you can ask for a FOSS tag, but I don't imagine you'll get more than that.
 

JJ6543

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Hi, I've installed GOS on P6 and am looking to avoid GPlay and use as few apps as possible. However I'm on Google Fi and trying to get it set up. I've downloaded the Fi app from APK Pure but it hangs when starting. Same with the LastPass app. Does Play need to be installed for these to work?
 

Alekos

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Hi, I've installed GOS on P6 and am looking to avoid GPlay and use as few apps as possible. However I'm on Google Fi and trying to get it set up. I've downloaded the Fi app from APK Pure but it hangs when starting. Same with the LastPass app. Does Play need to be installed for these to work?
have you asked in the GrapheneOS matrix room? It's weird, Google Fi has some odd things (like not allowing to easily disable 5G and change APN)

Can you create a new APN? something like this:
 

JJ6543

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have you asked in the GrapheneOS matrix room? It's weird, Google Fi has some odd things (like not allowing to easily disable 5G and change APN)

Can you create a new APN? something like this:
Thanks, I'll check these out!
 

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    GrapheneOS

    The private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit open source project.

    website : https://grapheneos.org/
    WebUSB-based Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/web
    CMD Line Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
    Releases : https://grapheneos.org/releases#raven-stable



    This is listed as "Experimental"...
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    Most likely not. All of the usual sync features are stripped. Likely because uploading all your data to someone else's computer (the cloud) is the opposite of privacy



    From my playing with it (with Play Services installed):
    - The built in camera is meh - Install the Google Camera from the Play Store and it works just fine
    - For editing, install the Google Photos app alongside the camera
    - I spent forever trying to get Google Contact sync to work and failed. Was ready to just import a CSV
    - The Play store is given the permissions of any other third party app store. You need to click Install on the usual pop-up for each app. It is not able to complete installs without user interaction (Huge plus side IMO)
    You can get contacts syncing with some small steps.
    Contacts sync needs the Google Contacts app and sync adapter. Give permission to Contacts app, sync adapter (find it in All Apps), Google Play services, Google Services Framework.

    Add your Google account in phone settings, enable sync for stuff you want, and reboot. Contacts app should populate in a few minutes.
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    I basically bought my P6P for this, so I'm extremely happy development is moving forward! Really hoping that, when a stable version is out, it will be possible to use the phone "normally" with it. Keep it up, Graphene team!
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    Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
    yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).

    Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)