[Guide] Droid Turbo & Moto Maxx Carrier and Bootloader Compatibility

[Jaocagomez]

Hello and welcome

I started this thread because i want to help all people who has or want this phone to get more Info about carrier and bootloader compatibilities.

Lets start with this:

DROID TURBO / MOTO MAXX

Little History of the Device

We know as late as mid-August Google was testing a 5.2" 1440p Snapdragon 805 Nexus 6 variant with 3GB RAM, made by Motorola. We saw the leaked benchmarks. After August, all evidence of a 5.2" Nexus 6 model disappeared. Google decided to release only one new Nexus phone, the 5.9" version.

But instead of being released as a Nexus, Motorola released that 5.2" phone as the Droid Turbo (Verizon)/Moto Maxx.

The shared specifications of these devices are the following:

• SYSTEM: Near-stock Android 4.4.4 KitKat (TESTING ANDROID L 5.0.2 RIGHT NOW ON MOTO MAXX)
• SCREEN: 5.2-inch QHD AMOLED (2,560 x 1,440 pixels, 565 ppi)
• PROCESSOR: Quad-core Snapdragon 805, quad-core, 2.7 GHz, Adreno 420 GPU
• RAM: 3 GB
• INTERNAL MEMORY: 32/64 GB
• BATTERY: 3,900 mAh
• QI WIRELESS CHARGING
• QUALCOMM CHARGE 2.0 UP TO 8 HOURS OF BATTERY CHARGING IN 30 MINUTES
• CAMERA: 21 MP (rear), 1.3MP (front)
• CONNECTIVITY: LTE, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, USB 2.0
• DIMENSIONS: 73.3 x 143.5 x 11.2mm (Ballistic Nylon)/73.3 x 146.5 x 10.6mm (Metalized Fiber)
• WEIGHT: 176 g (Ballistic Nylon)/169 g (Metalized Fiber) 184 g
• PRICE: $599.00 USD (base model)/ $8999.00 MXP
• USES NANO SIM CARD

CARRIER AND BOOTLOADER COMPATIBILITY

So if you are on USA my advice its to get an US MOTO MAXX to get unlocked bootloader, root and LTE compatibility on major carriers.

WHERE TO GET DROID TURBO/MOTO MAXX
DROID TURBO: http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/droid/
US MOTO MAXX: (sellers recopilation by chazzmatt) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58865000&postcount=197
INTERNATIONAL MOTO MAXX and MOTO TURBO: Int Moto maxx its currently being sold on Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brasil, Chile and india, you can look for it in motorola's page for each country ( motorola.com.mx , motorola.com.br , motorola.com.pr, motorola.com.cl )

I think its pretty Clear in this table which version of moto maxx and droid turbo work in each carrier and if they can be unlocked or not, if you have any questions about this please post.

Special thanks to @ChazzMatt for the little history text.

EDIT:
UPDATED TO INCLUDE MOTO TURBO

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[elgringoloco77]

Moto maxx has been finally released on the Mexican carrier TELCEL i saw it yesterday on a store hope more people get to know this awesome device

 

[timmyk465]

I have been searching everywhere. Were you able to find a definitive confirmation that the XT1250 is unlockable and works on Verizon? Screenshots, videos, personal testing? The only thing that I can find is that one person partially attempted to do both, but didn't actually do it.

 

[Jaocagomez]

I have been searching everywhere. Were you able to find a definitive confirmation that the XT1250 is unlockable and works on Verizon? Screenshots, videos, personal testing? The only thing that I can find is that one person partially attempted to do both, but didn't actually do it.

because the xt1250 runs mostly on CDMA networks by small carriers on USA, and beign carrier unlocked, works with verizon, about the bootloader, i trust the guy who said that he was able to unlock the bootloader according to motorola's unlocking site, but he did not want to because warranty issues, and if one model can be bootloader unlocked all can

 

[matheus_sc]

I hope device come for more countrys

 

[PureErykness]

Does anyone know if any of the small carriers that have the xt1250 will allow you to purchase and ship the phone from a place outside of their local network? (For example I'm in Texas and would use it on Verizon)

 

[ChazzMatt]

CARRIER AND BOOTLOADER COMPATIBILITY

Special thanks to @ChazzMatt for the little history text.

Thank you, @Jaocagomez.

The only additional info I would add is:

1) Chile is also one of the Latin American countries where the XT1225 is sold. Was released there after Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico.

http://www.motorola.cl/consumers/view-all-mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-cl.html

2) It's worth repeating that all the Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo models are "Quark" Motorola phones with identical hardware specs (display, resolution, RAM, cameras, CPU, GPU, turbo charging, Qi wireless charging, battery, etc), except for internal memory storage (32GB or 64GB). The "international" XT1225 only comes in 64GB with ballistic nylon back.

3) The U.S. XT1250 "Moto Maxx" and XT1254 "Droid Turbo" are identical except for carrier-specific software -- both have CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands. They both have the same FCC ID number. The "Droid Turbo" is just the Verizon "Moto Maxx" with a locked bootloader. ("Droid" is a name licensed to Verizon by LucasArts which they can slap on any phone they wish. Verizon chose to call their locked down version Droid Turbo, instead of Moto Maxx.)

4) The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 even though the official specs only list 2, 3, 4, 7, 17. When it passed through the FCC it had LTE band 5 (used on AT&T), and QPST/nv browser shows it's still there and enabled. But since the XT1225 was aimed primarily at the Latin America market, where LTE band 5 is not used, Motorola left it off the specs listing. Apple did something similar with the iPhone in 2012, having TWO extra LTE bands enabled that were not mentioned in the "official" specs.

The XT1225 has a different FCC number from the XT1250/XT1254.

5) All the XT1225 phones sold in all the various countries are the same. They all have the same FCC ID number. Why did the XT1225 go through the FCC? Because Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. Listing an FCC number on a phone in Brazil or Mexico doesn't carry the force of law in the U.S., but listing it on the XT1225 in Puerto Rico does carry the force of law for Motorola. But since it's listed on ALL the XT1225 boxes, wherever sold, it's the same phone across all countries.

6) For people wanting to buy the XT1225 in the 50 states of the USA, you can try eBay or Swappa. There were several Puerto Rico dealers selling them. It's U.S. territory and can be shipped via U.S.P.S. Priority Mail with tracking number. Just make sure they unlock the phone for you or provide the unlock code, as in Puerto Rico the Moto Maxx is only sold in Claro stores not through the Motorola website.

My Mexico Moto Maxx XT1225 was bought straight from Motorola Mexico website (through the help of @Jaocagomez) and came unlocked for all carriers from the factory, but my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx XT1225 was unlocked by the eBay dealer who shipped it to me. Otherwise would have stayed locked to Claro.

 

[timmyk465]

Thumb Cellular

Just a follow up. It looks like Thumb will sell you a phone and ship outside of their area. You have to buy it at full price, and they will not offer you a return on it, so the sale would be final.

 

[timmyk465]

Another follow up.

I've just about called every CDMA provider on the wikipedia list to get more information about this phone and whether or not you can buy it. For the most part no one will sell it unless you buy it in the store or you ship it within their service area. (Except as I mentioned above Thumb who will sell it and ship it no returns, no warranty).

I was able to find out that, according to the rep from Pioneer Cellular, the model number for the XT1250 is MOTO GXP1031.

A few of the carriers are looking into more information for me and are supposed to call me back. I'm trying to track down who their vendors are. It seems none of them are buying this phone directly from Motorola.

 

[ChazzMatt]

Another follow up.

I've just about called every CDMA provider on the wikipedia list to get more information about this phone and whether or not you can buy it. For the most part no one will sell it unless you buy it in the store or you ship it within their service area. (Except as I mentioned above Thumb who will sell it and ship it no returns, no warranty).

I was able to find out that, according to the rep from Pioneer Cellular, the model number for the XT1250 is MOTO GXP1031.

A few of the carriers are looking into more information for me and are supposed to call me back. I'm trying to track down who their vendors are. It seems none of them are buying this phone directly from Motorola.

That's interesting. So Motorola is selling this phone to some wholesalers, who are reselling it to regional carriers?

I know Motorola calls it the XT1250. I've seen it listed several places, just like the XT1225 -- like battery back covers on AliExpress. So, that other model number must be that carrier's product code, not Motorola's? Or the wholesaler's code?

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If you get one of these XT1250 Moto Maxx, do you have a Verizon nano SIM card to put in? For an account already activated? If not, get a SIM card cutter.

Because Verizon will lie to you and tell you it won't work. You have to get a nano SIM card without them knowing about it. Best way is to cut already-activated micro SIM card down, if you don't already have a nano size.

 

[ergoautumn]

Wow this is great news! I've been waiting for this device to come to ATT (under the rumored Moto Play name) but you're saying it's technically already available? So I can buy the XT1250 and I'll get full LTE speed on ATT? If so I might just get this...

Two questions:

1. What's your opinion on the speed of Motorola updating these phones? I know that due to their close relationship with Verizon they get it first usually, but because these have to be approved by handfuls of non major carriers do you think it'll be much slower? Will it matter which of these carriers I buy the phone from then?

2. Because these are not bought from Verizon or directly from Motorola Store, will Motorola still offer the one free screen replacement if broken within first year is ownership?

Thanks for your help

 

[ChazzMatt]

Wow this is great news! I've been waiting for this device to come to ATT (under the rumored Moto Play name) but you're saying it's technically already available? So I can buy the XT1250 and I'll get full LTE speed on ATT? If so I might just get this...

Two questions:

1. What's your opinion on the speed of Motorola updating these phones? I know that due to their close relationship with Verizon they get it first usually, but because these have to be approved by handfuls of non major carriers do you think it'll be much slower? Will it matter which of these carriers I buy the phone from then?

2. Because these are not bought from Verizon or directly from Motorola Store, will Motorola still offer the one free screen replacement if broken within first year is ownership?

Thanks for your help

The "international" XT1225 Moto Maxx would be better for AT&T. Has all the AT&T LTE bands. Official specs say LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 but really has 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. AT&T uses 2, 4, 5, 17.

eBay or Swappa is your friend.

Here's some recent speeds on AT&T GoPhone with one of my two XT1225 Moto Maxx phones:

 

[timmyk465]

That's interesting. So Motorola is selling this phone to some wholesalers, who are reselling it to regional carriers?

I know Motorola calls it the XT1250. I've seen it listed several places, just like the XT1225 -- like battery back covers on AliExpress. So, that other model number must be that carrier's product code, not Motorola's? Or the wholesaler's code?

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If you get one of these XT1250 Moto Maxx, do you have a Verizon nano SIM card to put in? For an account already activated? If not, get a SIM card cutter.

Because Verizon will lie to you and tell you it won't work. You have to get a nano SIM card without them knowing about it. Best way is to cut ssn already activated micro card down, if you don't already have a nano.

I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).

 

[rayjr13]

I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).

I'm also assuming the phone from Thumb is 32GB correct? I've reached out to several of those carriers as well and have not identified one that sells a 64GB XT1250. I also have not confirmed that one exists!

btw on Verizon I would also expect that Softcard would not work but would be willing to lose it in order to show if it doesn't work on XT1250 with the VZW ISIS app. Also I have not heard of anyone with software updates to the XT1250 to either enable video calling or VoLTE (HD voice or Simultaneous voice/data). Would anyone expect carrier updates or updates direct from Moto or to only be able to hope firmware from XT1254 can be dissected from an OTA?

Whew that's a lot

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Thread needs sticky no question. Mods please and thank you.

 

[sklarskyj]

btw on Verizon I would also expect that Softcard would not work but would be willing to lose it in order to show if it doesn't work on XT1250 with the VZW ISIS app. Also I have not heard of anyone with software updates to the XT1250 to either enable video calling or VoLTE (HD voice or Simultaneous voice/data). Would anyone expect carrier updates or updates direct from Moto or to only be able to hope firmware from XT1254 can be dissected from an OTA?

With an unlocked bootloader on the XT1250, I wonder if you could flash firmware from XT1225 (if you want 5.0.2 sooner) or XT1254 (if you want VOLTE from VZW) and have everything still work okay. When I had a VZW Moto X (XT1060) Developer Edition with an unlocked bootloader, firmware from other Ghost variants worked just fine (e.g., T-Mobile's 4.4.3 build released before Verizon's eventual skip to 4.4.4). If XT1225,XT1250, and XT1254 are all quark boards, think this could work?

I would love to sell my XT1254 and pick up the XT1250 if it meant getting xposed back... I'd even be fine with Verizon's firmware with 4.4.4+VOLTE+Xposed and waiting for the XT1254 to get 5.0.2 w/ VOLTE since flashing the XT1225 lollipop build would result in loss of VOLTE and thus simultaneous voice+data.

 

[rayjr13]

With an unlocked bootloader on the XT1250, I wonder if you could flash firmware from XT1225 (if you want 5.0.2 sooner) or XT1254 (if you want VOLTE from VZW) and have everything still work okay. When I had a VZW Moto X (XT1060) Developer Edition with an unlocked bootloader, firmware from other Ghost variants worked just fine (e.g., T-Mobile's 4.4.3 build released before Verizon's eventual skip to 4.4.4). If XT1225,XT1250, and XT1254 are all quark boards, think this could work?

I would love to sell my XT1254 and pick up the XT1250 if it meant getting xposed back... I'd even be fine with Verizon's firmware with 4.4.4+VOLTE+Xposed and waiting for the XT1254 to get 5.0.2 w/ VOLTE since flashing the XT1225 lollipop build would result in loss of VOLTE and thus simultaneous voice+data.

Just got this email so it doesn't even matter:

What does that mean for you? As of 3/31 your Softcard app will no longer work. You can continue to use the Softcard app until 3/31. After that your Account will be closed.

Wonder if we get another OTA to remove the app.

 

[dagoban]

It would be so cool if the phone had LTE band 20 enabled.
I'm hoping Moto will release another phone at some point that is not close to 6" and supports band 20

 

[Jaocagomez]

i hope some mod can sticky this thread, there were like 30 threads in Q&A and general asking this information

 

[mr-builder]

I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).

Did you end up buying the phone from Thumb? Or anywhere else for that matter?

 

[timmyk465]

Did you end up buying the phone from Thumb? Or anywhere else for that matter?

I ended up waiting cause I wanted to make sure everything would work, but never really saw anyone that got into detail what they could and couldn't do with the phone.

Then they released mofo, so I'm just getting it from Verizon now I think.