GUIDE - Orange UK settings for O2 XDA2

Shadamehr

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(VERY LONG POST)

Well, I've been asked by a number of people to share my working settings, that allow my O2 badged XDA2 to fully work for Orange UK, so here goes. Hope it helps and works for you, and any errors etc, I will reply to, and thus this thread should become a fairly exhaustive guide.

STEP 1
The first step is to go into Start > Settings > Connections, and then click on the Connections icon itself.

You should then see a screen, with two main sections, relating to "MY ISP", and lower down, "My Work Network" (don't panic if it says "MMS Network for the lower one - this can be changed by going into the Advanced tab on the lower part of the screen, and choosing from a drop down list).

Start with the "My ISP" section, by clicking on the "Manage existing connections" link.

This will bring a screen up with the existing O2 settings listed. Now this is where you have a choice... You can either set up the orange settings as a NEW set, or you can just EDIT the existing O2 settings to change them to Orange. My instructions are based on a NEW set, which I feel is safer.

So... Click on the word "NEW" and we will work through it.

Firstly, call the connection name "Orange GPRS" without the quotes.
In the "Select a modem" drop down, choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" <don't miss the GPRS bit there!>

Then we need to click on the "Next" button.

The access point name is "orangeinternet" with no quotes or spaces.

Then click "NEXT" again.

The username, password, domain, can all be left blank, but we need to click the "ADVANCED" button now...

We do not need to alter the TCP/IP settings, but we DO need to alter the Servers, so click on the "SERVERS" tab at the bottom.

Next, click the "Use Specific Server Address" radio button (the second of the two).

And enter the following details:
DNS: 158.43.192.1
Alt DNS: 158.43.128.1

Then click OK, to take you back to the last screen.

And at this point, you can click "FINISH" to create the settings. Well done so far. And then click the OK circle in the top corner, to come out of the "My ISP" settings.


STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.

So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...

A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.

Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.

Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).

For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).

Then. click the "NEXT" button.

Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"

Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****

I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.

The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.

The Domain can be left blank.

We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.

We should now be back to the "My work Settings" screen, with your new settings also listed. We need to set up the more usual GPRS WAP now though, so once again, click the "NEW" button to set a new lot up.

Give the connection the name "Orange GPRS WAP" so it's easy to identify, and for modem type choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" - note the gprs IS chosen this time. Then click the "NEXT" button.

The access point name is "orangewap" all one word without the quotes. Then click "NEXT".

There are no username, passwords, or domain settings to enter, nor any DNS etc, so you can now simply click on "FINISH" to save these settings.

Then you can click the "OK" circle in the corner, to exit the work settings screen.

We are now back to the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" shown.

We need to set up MMS now, but the screen only shows two connections, so we need to click on the "ADVANCED" tab at the bottom now.

A couple of buttons will now appear, including one that says "SELECT NETWORKS", so click on that now.

Two drop down menus should then appear, and the bottom one will be the "My Work Network" connection. Click on this, to choose instead, "MMS Network", and then click the "EDIT" button to continue.

Now you should see the fairly familiar settings screen, but this time with the O2 settings for MMS or O2 WAP listed.

Click the "NEW" button to continue.

Call the new connection "Orange MMS" without quotes, and the modem type is again "Cellular Line (GPRS)". Then click "NEXT".

The access point name is "orangemms" without spaces or quotes. And then again, click "NEXT".

The username is "Orange", the password I THINK is again "orangemultimedia" all one word, no quotes (if anyone knows different post here, but it seems to work for me).

Once this is entered, there are no advanced settings to configure, so simply click the "FINISH" button to continue on.

You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.

Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.

You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner.

You will then be back to the Connections screen, but on the advanced tab, so click the "TASKS" tab instead to get back to the usual screen, where "MY ISP" should be the top set of options/links, and "My Work Network" should be the lower set.

Go into "Manage existing connections" for each one, respectively, just to check that the radio button is ticked for the ORANGE settings, and not the old O2 ones, for each of these (MY ISP, then My Work Network). (NOTE - Sometimes, for a pass-thru connection using ActiveSync, I find that the option "Auto Pick" needs to be the one checked, so remember where it is now, in case you need come back to it in future).

Once you have made sure it is using the new ORANGE settings for each that you have just created (use the GPRS WAP, not the CSD WAP, for the Work Network connection), then click "OK", "OK", and then the X to come out of this, and back to the Today Screen. At this point we are nearly finished (thank the lord), but we have one last thing to set up, and this is the killer, hidden away and oft forgot about...


STEP 3
Now we need to finally configure an intricate setting within MMS, for it to work properly. To do this, click on the Today screen, to create or view your MMS messages, simply to get the MMS editor to open up.

Once you are within the MMS editor itself, there should be two menu items on the bottom of the screen - NEW, and TOOLS.

Click Tools > Options now.

This will bring you into the Options interface, but on the PREFERENCES tab. We need the "SERVERS" tab, so click on that, at the bottom, now.

There should be only one item, the O2 settings, then listed. I don't know any way to ADD a NEW set, so instead we just click/press on the O2 settings one, to go into that, and make the changes to this set.

Firstly, call the server name "Orange MMS" without the quotes.
The gateway address is vital. It is: 192.168.224.10
Finally, the server address is "http://mms.orange.co.uk/" without the quotes.

Click on "OK" and this will drop you back to the Options screen. Now click on the PREFERENCES tab.

Now we can set this up properly.

"Connect via" should be changed, or read "MMS Network" form the drop down list.
"Connect to server" should be changed, or read, so that it is now the new "Orange MMS" settings.

Retrieve messages immediately should be ticked.

Sending limitations should be 40K I am told (though this seems strange for video messaging).

Depending on whether you have the newest ROM upgrade or not, if you have the new, there will only be one item to change to 40K. If you have an older ROM, you need to set 40K for both the SEND, and the RECEIVE limit.

No. of attempts before aborting seems to be a matter of choice - I tend to use "1" for the option here.

On newer ROMS there is also a box for "Download on home network only". If you tick this, it means you WON'T receive MMS when roaming. I seem to recall before my upgrade last night that this item is not there on older ROMS.

Once you have set this up, click the "OK" circle, then the X to come out of the MMS Editor, back to the Today screen.

And WELL DONE - you are finished.



Try connecting to the Internet on your XDA2, and check that it 'dials' an Orange GPRS connection.

Then try sending and receiving an MMS. And then finally, make sure you have an ActiveSync pass-thru to the internet when the XDA2 is docked on the cradle too.

All being well, you should have a fully functioning XDA2, but using the Orange network to go with your SIM (assuming of course you unlocked it).

I hope this post has been useful (if not very lengthy), and any feedback or amendments, or questions, please post below - though I can't be held liable for any issues that result from it!

I should add that Orange SMS centre number, and Voicemail number, is automatically retrieved from the Netowrk when you have an Orange SIM in.

If you have any problems though, click Start > Settings > Phone, and then the Services tab.

There you can alter the usual stuff like call bariing etc, BUT, if you click the "Get Settings" button, it should retrieve the SMS centre, and voicemail number automatically.

If I have missed anything, just give me a yell...

Cheers

Shadamehr
 
Further to the stage 3 mms instructions

I have just upgraded to the latest ROM version ( v1.60.50 - download from http://www.xda-2.co.uk/downloads/xda2_upgrade.html). It don't know if it's because of the upgrade but:

When you are on the Tools>Options>Servers tab, if you click/press and hold on the O2 settings a menu appears with an option to set up a new set. I have done this and put in the details you specify. When you are back on the Options screen you can then choose the new set of server settings from a drop-down on the Connect to Server box.

I hope this is a small but useful addition to your instructions.

Cheers,
Grimsacre
 

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AHA!!!!

Nice one Grimsacre.

My post was first wrote not long after i had first got my XDA2, so I didn't know much about the tapping and holding option.

But still, even now however, I had not noticed you could do that - well spotted.

So folks, what Grimsacre is saying, is that if you DON'T want to delete the existing O2 MMS server settings (this is within the MMS application itself, in the Tools, Options menu), then if you tap and HOLD on the existing O2 settings you will find as you work through my guide, you will get the option to create a NEW additional set for Orange.

Me personally, I tend to prefer to get all the O2 stuff off the phone when setting it up for Orange, as a Hard reset should get the O2 stuff and settings back if ever you need them again.

But if you like to play it safe, as mentioned in my guide above, THIS bit Grimsacre has discovered will allow you to keep O2 MMS settings,whilst adding a NEW set for Orange.

Cheers again mate.
 

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Many Thanks Shadamehr

Superb Job Shadamehr,

Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.

Your a star!!

Thanks again!!

David

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 

Shadamehr

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Re: Many Thanks Shadamehr

New XDA User said:
Superb Job Shadamehr,

Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.

Your a star!!

Thanks again!!

David

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Not a problem at all mate.

Extra tip for you maybe?

If you download Sprite Backup, a good suggestion is to do a backup of your entire XDA2, at whatever point you feel the 'happy medium'.

By this, I mean that as soon as you get rid of the O2 interface etc, and put the Orange settings on, this could be one possibility, and it means if you need to hard reset or ROM upgrade, you can simply delete the O2 stuff and settings afterwards, Sprite Restore, and have a shiny Orange configured and clean XDA2 in no time.

But if you regularly use certain applications, it might be better to install them on the phone before setting a Restore file.

It's all about balance though - too much stuff, and it can be bloated, too little, and it means more work for you to do after a hard reset.

For me, what I do/have, is all the O2 stuff removed, including settings, the Orange settings added, RingtoneX installed, my ringtones, my contacts database as it was at the time, and my caller id photos, and set up for the caller ID app.

Then I make a save file.

That way, if I need to Hard reset, I can just delete the O2 stuff, and do a restore, and in no time have a clean Orange XDA2, but with all my photos set up for Caller ID.

Then if some contacts are out of date, I just do a sync to my pc, and they are updated, and the calendar added.

Hope this helps too.

Cheers mate.

(OHHHHH - just one thing... When doing a restore using Sprite, DON'T restore any email or sms, as this can corrupt the XDA2 to a unique way whereby you won't be notified of sms you receive, and they won't show up. - so untick the Email/Sms option).
 

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UK OrangeWorld WAP access...

Hi Shadamehr,

I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.

I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.

I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.

I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.

Any help would gratefully be received.

Regards,
Mike
 

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Re: UK OrangeWorld WAP access...

mike_m said:
Hi Shadamehr,

I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.

I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.

I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.

I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.

Any help would gratefully be received.

Regards,
Mike
Strange mate...

Just tried it, and got the same problem, even though it USED to work for me.

Additionally, I tried it out using my SPV E200, and it worked fine.

Soon as I use the same address on the XDA2 however, and it won't load.

I know the XDA2 has issues with WAP addresses, in that some say they have to be entered in the right manner (wsp etc), but I have never had problems in the past accessing the Orange World site.

Sorry I can't help more.
 

imateuser

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hi..Shadamehr..

I bought my imate from kuwait 3 months ago.. put in my orange simm in and thanx to you an dto all those who helped i can access internet and all cuz orange dont support imate.. anyway.. i have a small problem with mms.. i did everything u stated in your steps and changed the settengs in the server taps for orange mms.. but when i go back to the previuos screen where you mentioned i should choose "mms network" in the "connect via" option.. well i dont get "mms network" in the drop down menu.. this what appears in the list (MTC kuwait, My Work Network, My ISP, Work, Secure WAP Network, The WAP Network, The internet).. which one of these should i choose?

I would really appreciate your help..

Thnx in advance
 

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Hello,

I think its the "My Work Network" if you read the instructions at the top after you do the MMS settings it says its important to select that one, hopefully that's the stage you are on.

I've pasted the bit below for you, I hope thats the relevant piece you need.

"You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.

Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.

You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner.
"

David
 

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Can I clarify...

If you click the start button as it were, on the today screen, then go to Settings > Connections (tab) > Connections (icon),

Then click on ADVANCED tab, then the Select Netowrks button, can you THEN choose MMS Network from the list of items in the drop down boxes.

If you CAN, then you should also be able to select this in the MMS Application itself, and the point you say you can't choose this.

If you CAN'T see it listed however, this means there are no settings for MMS on the device, so you have missed some of the steps from my instructions earlier on...

Have a look, and let me know.
 
More Orange settings!

Shadamehr,

As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.

Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!

Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.

Any ideas, O Wise One?

Cheers,
Grimsacre
 

Shadamehr

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Re: More Orange settings!

grimsacre said:
Shadamehr,

As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.

Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!

Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.

Any ideas, O Wise One?

Cheers,
Grimsacre
If you mean "how to set up old fashioned CSD WAP", then it's already covered in my post above...

Specifically:

STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.

So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...

A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.

Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.

Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).

For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).

Then. click the "NEXT" button.

Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"

Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****

I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.

The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.

The Domain can be left blank.

We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.




Bear in mind, that using CSD WAP, it's meant for WAP only, and as the XDA2 browser is a full HTML based browser, you might have big issues with sites that are NOT specifically pure WAP.

And if this is NOT what you meant, can you elaborate a bit better what setting you do mean?

HTH,

Shadamehr
 
CSD browsing

Sorry mate, I probably wasn't too clear in my last post.

I set up CSD wap as you instructed ( thank you :) ). I would like to be able to use full html web browsing but using CSD rather than gprs. This would allow me to use minutes from my normal monthly contract tariff instead of paying for the add-on gprs data.

I used to use a device called a Pogo - a really good fast full web browsing device (and British!) but unfortunately the company went bust. The browsing was fast, even on a normal gsm connection, because they used a server to compress the data before sending it on to your Pogo device.

If Orange have an access number for WAP, I thought they might have a number for full browsing. What I guess I'm after is not "old fashioned CSD WAP" but rather "old fashioned CSD full html browsing".

Cheers,

Grimsacre
 

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Oh right I see mate.

Well in that case, I'm not sure there is one. Indeed, I am not sure if I know of one for any network.

As the XDA2, a bit like a smartphone, is a bit unique in having a combined wap and html browser as one.

I'm just trying to get my head round it, and relate it to a nokia 6230 with inbuilt combined WAP and xHTML browser.

And in so doing, I've just realised that I never had cause or reason to ever use dial up 'wap' so as to be able to see if it allowed the loading up of html pages too. Mmmm.

You've got me curious now.
 
CSD browsing

I haven't used CSD wap either ( I set it up as you advised but have always been html browsing using gprs and have not used wap on the xda).

I have now tried to use CSD wap and have not been able to connect - I get a message telling me that my username or password is incorrect.

I had a chat with Orange support a little while back about connecting to Orangeworld wap and they gave me the same username and password as you did (ie Orange and orangemultimedia). I have another phone (Motorola v500) that connects to Orangeworld wap, using the same username and password, and that works. Strange!