I've been having the same issue with the system updates, I assumed it was something on Verizon's end but I hadn't had the time to go back and investigate.I disabled everything in the the original post. Pretty much made little difference and my SOT is still pretty bad. That aside, I randomly checked for OS updates and it says the service is unavailable. I rebooted, same thing. Does anyone know what service that is on the original posts recommendations might cause the service to be unavailable?
Were you using dev options in phone settings to see these running in system, or a package disabler? I'm using EZ package disabler, and have a couple that show up running in it, even though they are disabled, including the same ones you listed. They don't show up in my phones running in memory though, only in the app. I did reenable them though.I went through and was clearing the memory and noticed 4 separate apps that had allocated memory in ram and were also listed to be disabled. Would enabling those increase battery vs having it disabled yet "running" in system memory? I have re-enabled those apps and trying it out now.
Those apps being:
Ant Hal Service,
Context Service, com.sec.android.app.wfdbroker,
Samsung Content Agent
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I was seeing the RAM usage only changed in size but never truly stopped running in the background with package Disabler. When you click an app in it, it shows you a breakdown of its size and current RAM usage. My thinking was it would still run in the background anyway so I chose not to mess with those particular appsWere you using dev options in phone settings to see these running in system, or a package disabler? I'm using EZ package disabler, and have a couple that show up running in it, even though they are disabled, including the same ones you listed. They don't show up in my phones running in memory though, only in the app. I did reenable them though.
Great thread. I've just used EZ to disable about 10 bloatwares and have noticed amazing battery improvement on my gs7. Overnight drain went from 5% in 7hrs to 1%. I have some questions though. Is it ok to let app manager disable the ones its capable of and let EZ do the rest, or is it better to have EZ do them all?Alright so I think I'm ready to comment on my Verizon s7 edge's battery life, as well as post a little guide that hopefully helps improve other Verizon users battery life.
For starters when I first got my phone and let it settle in (after the two updates) I had consistent 4 hours SOT with pretty heavy idle drain. I started scouring the forums to try and find out how to help the battery life.
There were a couple of things that I found on the forums that did help: install greenify app and turn on aggressive doze option, put all the normal battery sucking apps that I use into greenify (ESPN, CBS, Play Music), set location to GPS only, turn off ALL scanning options that are literally hidden multiple places throughout the phone (bluetooth and wifi), turn off google location reporting, turn off samsung security report collection and transmitting function, turn off fast charging (especially since I only charge up at night while I'm sleeping), and a few other things that I'm probably forgetting. After all of this I was getting around 5 hours SOT with medium idle drain.
Like most people who have paid for Package Disabler Pro, I had originally tried freezing all the bloat right away and discovered worse idle drain than not freezing bloat apps. Therefore for most of my testing I had left everything unfrozen. After I had implemented all the other stuff listed above, I dived back into investigating the app freezing situation. I seem to have made a discovery after some extensive testing.
From what I can tell many of the bloat apps are attached to a process that continues to try and function once the app is frozen. Most of us long time android users at this point would say "duh" lol. What I figured out however was that I could reset the process by clearing the system data for each app right before freezing it. For good measure I also cleared the data for the app after I froze it. I tried to account for each app that I considered to be bloat or was simply samsung battery sucking, and every process that was connected to that app that made it work. Although I have probably not accounted for all of them, I have definitely created enough of a dent in them to account for really good minimum idle battery drain. My testing has shown that this data clearing method works, and I will provide the battery pics to prove it.
Before I post my current battery life screenshots, xml list for Package disabler, and details on how to do this, I want to make it clear that all battery tests differ according to the users activities. I always am on 4G, never on WIFI (I have unlimited data). I always use auto brightness. My activities include Camera usage, ESPN app, Youtube app, Bible app, lots of web surfing (tech sites), Amazon shopping app, Zillow app, Realtor app, and things along these lines. I do not play any games, or do heavy task orientated benchmarks, or use facebook or social media apps. Also I have not disabled anything that effects HD calling, Samsung Pay, or apps edge (i use these things). I have disabled AOD since I don't use it, as well as all wifi calling processes, and certain edge apps that I don't use.
NOTE 1: You should review the list of apps I have disabled BEFORE you disable them, to ensure you are not losing any functions that you use (aka always on display)
NOTE 2: The focus here is killing background battery drainage, with the screen on or off. I have found great results FOR MY USAGE. Your usage will be different. But the hope is that by killing some of that background drain you can achieve longer overall battery life.
Alright so lets jump into the proof pics
Here is my last 2 days battery life stats
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As you can see, for my usage I was able to go 2 days with 6 hours SOT. And yes, if I was reading this post i would cry wolf and say no way, not on a sd820 verizon s7 edge. All I can say is this is for real, and it cant hurt to try out what I did and see if you get similar results. I was on 4G data all the time (no wifi) and I was indoors a lot (not a lot of direct sunlight). These things helped the battery some, but the idle drain is nearly non existent right now. I left my phone unplugged overnight last night and had NO BATTERY DROP in the course of 6 hours. Not a single percent.
So besides all the tips listed at the top of this post, here is what I did with Package Disabler Pro.
1. Go into Package Disabler Pro and find each one of these apps (picture of apps below and attached to the post is the xml import document)
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2. For each app BEFORE disabling it hit the CLEAR DATA button. Then quickly hit the DISABLE button. I say do it quickly because some of the apps will try and re-initiate its data a second after you clear it. Whether or not this is an important detail or not I am not sure, just trying to be thorough in my explanation.
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3. Verify that the app now shows no data or cache, and that it is disabled (all this info is available right there in the Package Disabler app).
4. After disabling all the apps restart your phone.
After feedback from users in this thread, I have discovered EZ Package Disabler Pro, which does the same thing as Package Disabler Pro but has better layout and features. Here are the steps to complete the process using EZ Package Disabler Pro:
1. Go into EZ Package Disabler Pro and find each one of these apps (picture of apps below and attached to the post is the xml import document)
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2. For each app BEFORE disabling it hit the CLEAR DATA button (you can find the clear data function under the "more" section of each app). Then press the DISABLE button.
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3. Verify that the app now shows no data or cache, and that it is disabled (all this info is available right there in EZ Package Disabler Pro).
4. After disabling all the apps restart your phone.
And that's it. That is all I did. Most of these apps that are disabled I spent much time researching and figuring out what they did and whether to disable. I have lost no functions of my phone's normal use.
I hope this is helpful to someone else. I am definitely enjoying this phone a lot more now that I have great battery life. Still not as good as the international version (exynos) but its close enough for me.
Cheers!
Please don't quote the OP when they have tons of photos, we have to scroll through all of that just to see your short reply.Great thread. I've just used EZ to disable about 10 bloatwares and have noticed amazing battery improvement on my gs7. Overnight drain went from 5% in 7hrs to 1%. I have some questions though. Is it ok to let app manager disable the ones its capable of and let EZ do the rest, or is it better to have EZ do them all?
Also, after disabling in EZ, a couple that i reenabled do not show back up in app manager. How can i access those again in app manager?
Hass anyone seen any side effects to disablimg tmobile software update or urgent firmware update?
what do i lose if i disable smart manager? Can you still see battery stats?
What about the tmobile app? I've read somewhere it can cause drain disabling it. Anyone know?
Thanks guys. Love squeezing all the life out of my battery as possible and this has helped.
No help? Do you know what stops when disabling smart manager?Please don't quote the OP when they have tons of photos, we have to scroll through all of that just to see your short reply.
Thanks, going to take a look. Should this be done near the end of a battery cycle or anytime?Are you guys having Android System battery issues still?
To pinpoint which service within Android System is causing the most wakelocks without Root, you can use this app (Wakelock Detector Lite) & adb to view the stats.
Here's the link to the Play Store app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot
After you install the app, go into Settings > Developer options & turn on USB Debugging.
Then connect your phone to your PC, open adb, and type:
adb devices
Then
adb tcpip 5555
Now you can view your wakelock stats without root!
My number one wakelock within Android System is GpsLocationProvider_ex. It prevents my phone from deep sleep & Doze.
The only workaround is to turn off GPS until needed.
Please share your findings.
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I've got greenify on my non rooted gs7. You don't need to use it for hibernation. I use it for agressive doze and I also just used greenify to disable the motion sensors and that seemed to help alot. I'm at 94% and already 42min SOT. Previously, I would be at 90 percent before getting an hour of sot. Forcedoze is supposed to do the same thing, but I haven't tried it yet. I also disabled some packages with EZ, but not nearly as many as some people here. Just a few, that I knew was draining some battery.I'd like to give my fair input that I appreciate this guide in all it does, and helped out our not-yet rooted phones. One thing I might suggest is the backfire I think Greenify is without root. Greenify's auto hibernation is a frequent wakelock itself and I think drains the battery terribly. I used the Package Disabler Pro and ForceDoze, and it helps me gain up to at least 6 hours of screen on time on a good day. It would otherwise be 4-5 hours of SOT. If root was achievable, I think the S7 Edge can shoot upwards of 6+ with Greenify, Amplify, and Servicely, alongside with modifying the Governor settings. It's how I got my previous phone, the Xperia Z3v, to get great battery life.![]()
ForceDoze is pretty much a more specialized Aggressive Doze feature in an app itself. Idk how you're disabling motion sensors with Greenify, since I don't see an option like that even with the donation package. ForceDoze has disabling motion sensors as well so you should give it a shot. I left my phone uncharged all night after fully charging it, and I only lost 2% in 8-9 hours, being only .2% discharge per hour.I've got greenify on my non rooted gs7. You don't need to use it for hibernation. I use it for agressive doze and I also just used greenify to disable the motion sensors and that seemed to help alot. I'm at 94% and already 42min SOT. Previously, I would be at 90 percent before getting an hour of sot. Forcedoze is supposed to do the same thing, but I haven't tried it yet. I also disabled some packages with EZ, but not nearly as many as some people here. Just a few, that I knew was draining some battery.
With greenify, you go here and it tells you the dump permissions you need to enter for motion sensor disable. I just did it this morning and my battery life has been awesome. I don't use any hibernation though since I'm not rooted. https://greenify.uservoice.com/know...o-grant-permissions-required-by-some-featuresForceDoze is pretty much a more specialized Aggressive Doze feature in an app itself. Idk how you're disabling motion sensors with Greenify, since I don't see an option like that even with the donation package. ForceDoze has disabling motion sensors as well so you should give it a shot. I left my phone uncharged all night after fully charging it, and I only lost 2% in 8-9 hours, being only .2% discharge per hour.
As for Package Disabler, I just use its automated debloatware function, and re-enable some of the packages I use for my S7 Edge.
Ah, that's why I couldn't utilize Greenify fully. I didn't know I had to go through ADB settings to disable motion sensing.With greenify, you go here and it tells you the dump permissions you need to enter for motion sensor disable. I just did it this morning and my battery life has been awesome. I don't use any hibernation though since I'm not rooted. https://greenify.uservoice.com/know...o-grant-permissions-required-by-some-features
However, I can't vouch for standby drain yet, as I just this morning disabled the motion sensors. Will see tomorrow how it's done. I have a non rooted gs7 and it doesn't seem to matter what I've done, I am always around 3-5% drop overnight in about 7 hrs. There has been a couple times it's only dropped 1%, but I can never replicate it when I try. Your standby drain is great. Do you mind sharing what exactly you disabled with your Package disabler? Or it might be easier to post what you re-enabled on it, since you said you let it disable automated. I used EZ package disabler and prefer to disable only a few at a time to see how they affect battery life.
Also, how soon does your forcedoze put you into doze? I think I read that it's adjustable. I'm probably going to give it a try unless I can lower my standby drain with my current setup. 3 to 5% overnight drain IMO is not good, and seems that something is not going into a deep sleep.
I'm a little confused what the difference is between greenify and forcedoze as far as aggressive dozing goes, besides the timing settings. From what I've read, they simply trigger it, and stock android doze does the rest. Assuming you have motion sensors disabled in both, how would one be better than the other?
Anytime.Thanks, going to take a look. Should this be done near the end of a battery cycle or anytime?
Just ran it and my number one was google services and it was specifically google.android.gms.icing.proxy.smsmonitor...Thanks, going to take a look. Should this be done near the end of a battery cycle or anytime?
Try rebooting phone. Most of the times, it fixes Google Services wakelocks.Just ran it and my number one was google services and it was specifically google.android.gms.icing.proxy.smsmonitor...
I just started noticing that google services is running constantly in my phone today in my running processes. In the past, this hasn't been the case. Today I've disabled the motion sensors with greenify. I haven't changed anything else. Not sure what's causing it to run so much.... Any suggestions?