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burrzoo

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You Can use an Apple Watch Series 3 (probably a Series 2 and earlier models as well) standalone with a Note 8 (S8/S8+ and maybe any Android Device?)!
[ Thanks to @spinedoc on Android Central for this idea!]

**Please, no flaming! I live in both Android and Apple World (as many do). Been loving Android off and on for years. Bored with iOS/iPhone for a couple years now. I do have a Gear S2 (and I wear that too, total geek, I know...) but I have yet to find a decent <= 40mm Android Capable SmartWatch. They are just too large on my wrist and Apple Watch 38mm is perfect so I bought a new Series 3. Apple Watch is behind in tech to me compared to some Android Watches but AW is very slick and really nice looking to me. Some people cannot afford both an Android Wear watch and an Apple Watch even though I believe Android Wear works on iPhone. I kept my iPhone to work on theming as it was jailbroken but isn't any longer due to upgrading to iOS 11. Also I help a lot of friends and family with their iPhone setups and problems so it's good for me to have an iPhone on hand as I follow along when helping them.

Of course not all of the features of the Apple Watch will work but many will! I haven't tried out all of them yet. Phone calls won't work.

You MUST Own an iPhone [for Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) or earlier models of Apple Watch, you need an iPhone 5s or later with probably the latest iOS] in addition to your Android device and have Hotspot functionality on your cellular plan.

Here are the steps that I used (it is NOT necessary to initially have a SIM in your iPhone when setting up. I am using a Series 3 GPS Only Apple Watch with an older iPhone 6+ on iOS 11).


1) Turn on the Hotspot on your Android device (I'm using a Note 8).
2) Connect your iPhone’s wifi to the Android phone's Hotspot.
3) Your Apple Watch will access the internet using the wifi hotspot connection on your iPhone.
4) Now that you have “established” an authorized/known (can’t think of the word Apple uses) wifi connection you can leave the iPhone at home and either leave the hotspot running or turn it on when you need updates to certain apps on your watch!
5) Go into messages on your iPhone (especially when the SIM is NOT in it) and be sure you have an email address that is checked off to use with iMessage. I used iMessage seamlessly - with voice text entry…too small to type (of course there is no trail of the SMSs on your Android phone).
My weather updates, my mail comes in and I can respond. Haven’t tried anything else except Siri who told me the time but couldn’t answer a couple of questions about Apple Watch (just referred me to open the web on the iPhone). Remember that the functionality available on an Apple Watch is dependent upon what exists on your iPhone, not what's on your Android device.
Surprisingly, I didn't get much of a hit on the battery either in my Note 8 or on the Apple Watch when I left the Hotspot on. Not sure how much data was used but I get a 10GB/month hotspot on my AT&T plan so doubt I'll eat that up before the next bill comes out.

If you have an LTE version Apple Watch on AT&T then using NumberSync might not be that good of an idea. Check out this article on Android Central:
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-u...oid-smartphone
 

spinedoc

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FYI this worked for me with a series 2, than means no cellular connection, I'll bet it works better with a series 3. Battery draw was higher on both the AW and the Note 8 (hotspot continuously on), but I still made it through a full day. Most of my stuff is on Google Voice, so all that worked perfectly and I got notifications on the AW and was able to respond. All the apps I tried which involved the phone seemed to work fine, for example the Ecobee app on the AW worked fine to adjust my Tstat at home. Apple pay worked perfectly as well. Siri didn't work when I tested, it said couldn't find my iPhone. iMessages can be tricky as mentioned above. The only thing that truly didn't work at all was making and receiving phone calls.
 
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burrzoo

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FYI this worked for me with a series 2, than means no cellular connection, I'll bet it works better with a series 3. Battery draw was higher on both the AW and the Note 8 (hotspot continuously on), but I still made it through a full day. Most of my stuff is on Google Voice, so all that worked perfectly and I got notifications on the AW and was able to respond. All the apps I tried which involved the phone seemed to work fine, for example the Ecobee app on the AW worked fine to adjust my Tstat at home. Apple pay worked perfectly as well. Siri didn't work when I tested, it said couldn't find my iPhone. iMessages can be tricky as mentioned above. The only thing that truly didn't work at all was making and receiving phone calls.
Thanks again @spinedoc for your initial information on that NumberSync article on Android Central. I posted this guide on the ATT forum and someone stated that even trying this was a hot mess! No way! Once you set it up that's it. It works really well with the series 3. You used ecobee, it works with liftmaster too.
I love the watch but I love my Note 8! So I do want to live in Both worlds.
If Android Wear comes out with a smaller watch I'll end up buying that too. Lol!

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vincey2kr1

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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
 

burrzoo

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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
I had my iPhone (no SIM in it) tethered to my Note 8 hotspot. At the same time the Apple Watch is automatically connected to the iPhone (which is still using the hotspot for internet connectivity).
Once the Apple Watch was connected it "established " a know WiFi connection so you can actually shut the iPhone down and the Apple Watch will connect to your Note 8 (or any previously connected hotspot which your iPhone was connected to).
So when I leave my house and my Apple Watch is out of range even with my home WiFi (you'll know when your watch has no connection as it will display a tiny red phone or something like that, at the top of the screen) I turn on my Hotspot right in the notification shade (which also turns off your N8 normal WiFi connection) and the Apple Watch connects automatically. That "not connected" icon disappears.
Now you will not receive any cell-related content. You'll get text messages Only from those using iMessage (but you can respond on your AW, I use voice dictation, so easy) your Note 8 texts will not appear on AW. You'll get email updates (if the email accounts existed on your iPhone), you'll get weather updates and can use wifi-connected light bulbs and garage doors etc. if they were all originally set up on your iPhone and if there is a corresponding AW app. Still lots of functionality!
I'm such a geeky goober that I have an Apple Watch on one wrist and a Gear S2 LTE on the other! Like jewelry to me.

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burrzoo

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Say u turn your hotspot on , tether the iPhone to note 8 , leave the house but your iPhone loses connection to your note 8 because your out of range so it hooks onto your home router. Now you won’t get messages?? Think that’s the problem I had. It Did work when I left the iPhone in the vehicle, lost tethering so iPhone went to cellular data. Can anyone confirm?
I forgot to mention that this is the GPS Only Apple Watch.

Also, @vincey, are you trying to just tether your iPhone to your N8 hotspot (& not use an AW at all)?

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Madart

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Thanks for the great info everyone,
Have anyone had the chance to check the method with the series 4 ?
In terms of battery, will the watch last for a day using the hotspot ? Have anyone tried checking WhatsApp notifications ?
 

itesla

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my son wants apple watch he does not have phone yet. he does have ipad. if i find an old beater iphone5 to set up the apple watch, he could do similar as you with note?

the apple watch would record exercise, would that sync back to apple health on wifi? i don’t see apple health app for ipad though.

could he use ipad to copy music to apple watch?

can he install games from ipad to watch?

plan b is fitbit versa :)
 

Damo1888

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Is this still working? How long does your Apple Watch Series 3 last before it needs to be charged again when doing this?

I'm assuming WhatsApp messages sent to the iPhone will be received on the watch?
 
my son wants apple watch he does not have phone yet. he does have ipad. if i find an old beater iphone5 to set up the apple watch, he could do similar as you with note?

the apple watch would record exercise, would that sync back to apple health on wifi? i don’t see apple health app for ipad though.

could he use ipad to copy music to apple watch?

can he install games from ipad to watch?

plan b is fitbit versa :)
An Apple Watch can only be directly paired with an iPhone, not an iPad, and if it has watchOS 4 or later, then it can't be paired to an iPhone 5 or 5C, because they won't run anything newer than iOS 10, but as long as the watch has watchOS 3 or earlier, you can still pair it to a 5 or 5C. Otherwise, just get a 5S. If it's a cellular iPad and there's a SIM card in it, then he can do what the OP did with his Note 8, but he won't be able to sync or install anything on the watch using the iPad. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure a Fitbit can be paired to any phone, tablet or computer
 

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    You Can use an Apple Watch Series 3 (probably a Series 2 and earlier models as well) standalone with a Note 8 (S8/S8+ and maybe any Android Device?)!
    [ Thanks to @spinedoc on Android Central for this idea!]

    **Please, no flaming! I live in both Android and Apple World (as many do). Been loving Android off and on for years. Bored with iOS/iPhone for a couple years now. I do have a Gear S2 (and I wear that too, total geek, I know...) but I have yet to find a decent <= 40mm Android Capable SmartWatch. They are just too large on my wrist and Apple Watch 38mm is perfect so I bought a new Series 3. Apple Watch is behind in tech to me compared to some Android Watches but AW is very slick and really nice looking to me. Some people cannot afford both an Android Wear watch and an Apple Watch even though I believe Android Wear works on iPhone. I kept my iPhone to work on theming as it was jailbroken but isn't any longer due to upgrading to iOS 11. Also I help a lot of friends and family with their iPhone setups and problems so it's good for me to have an iPhone on hand as I follow along when helping them.

    Of course not all of the features of the Apple Watch will work but many will! I haven't tried out all of them yet. Phone calls won't work.

    You MUST Own an iPhone [for Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS) or earlier models of Apple Watch, you need an iPhone 5s or later with probably the latest iOS] in addition to your Android device and have Hotspot functionality on your cellular plan.

    Here are the steps that I used (it is NOT necessary to initially have a SIM in your iPhone when setting up. I am using a Series 3 GPS Only Apple Watch with an older iPhone 6+ on iOS 11).


    1) Turn on the Hotspot on your Android device (I'm using a Note 8).
    2) Connect your iPhone’s wifi to the Android phone's Hotspot.
    3) Your Apple Watch will access the internet using the wifi hotspot connection on your iPhone.
    4) Now that you have “established” an authorized/known (can’t think of the word Apple uses) wifi connection you can leave the iPhone at home and either leave the hotspot running or turn it on when you need updates to certain apps on your watch!
    5) Go into messages on your iPhone (especially when the SIM is NOT in it) and be sure you have an email address that is checked off to use with iMessage. I used iMessage seamlessly - with voice text entry…too small to type (of course there is no trail of the SMSs on your Android phone).
    My weather updates, my mail comes in and I can respond. Haven’t tried anything else except Siri who told me the time but couldn’t answer a couple of questions about Apple Watch (just referred me to open the web on the iPhone). Remember that the functionality available on an Apple Watch is dependent upon what exists on your iPhone, not what's on your Android device.
    Surprisingly, I didn't get much of a hit on the battery either in my Note 8 or on the Apple Watch when I left the Hotspot on. Not sure how much data was used but I get a 10GB/month hotspot on my AT&T plan so doubt I'll eat that up before the next bill comes out.

    If you have an LTE version Apple Watch on AT&T then using NumberSync might not be that good of an idea. Check out this article on Android Central:
    https://www.androidcentral.com/how-u...oid-smartphone
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    FYI this worked for me with a series 2, than means no cellular connection, I'll bet it works better with a series 3. Battery draw was higher on both the AW and the Note 8 (hotspot continuously on), but I still made it through a full day. Most of my stuff is on Google Voice, so all that worked perfectly and I got notifications on the AW and was able to respond. All the apps I tried which involved the phone seemed to work fine, for example the Ecobee app on the AW worked fine to adjust my Tstat at home. Apple pay worked perfectly as well. Siri didn't work when I tested, it said couldn't find my iPhone. iMessages can be tricky as mentioned above. The only thing that truly didn't work at all was making and receiving phone calls.