Has all the hype died already ?

[jimbob_me]

Can't compare the nexus one to the xoom cause the nexus one actually worked when it was released. My nexus one is still faster than many of today's current phones.

Xoom is just a classic case of hardware not being well integrated enough with the software on launch. If moto released it in April, and ironed out all the bugs first, the tablet would probably be ok!

 

[xlGmanlx]

Moto won't be the ones releasing source that will come Google, relax folks

 

[_RTFM_]

Can't compare the nexus one to the xoom cause the nexus one actually worked when it was released. My nexus one is still faster than many of today's current phones.

Xoom is just a classic case of hardware not being well integrated enough with the software on launch. If moto released it in April, and ironed out all the bugs first, the tablet would probably be ok!

OR they could release the tablet sooner, have a leg up on the Ipad 2, keep fixing the software and STILL have everything ironed out by April. It's a business brah.

 

[Digital Man]

Take off your aluminum hat for a moment.

I hope you understand that the "holy grail" as you put it is a bit more complicated than you think. For those of us who ummmm....read and know ****. We refer to thing like that with a really fancy phrase called "vertical integration". Also, remember Apple is a vertical integration monster, owning the hardware, OS, AND * drum-roll* distribution channels. They've built their company up like this. Motorola is still a long way from having this sort of capability. They don't even own all their hardware. The article you posted contains statements taken out of context. Complaints like those are hardly rare and mostly amount to nothing.

I can promise you google will release the source code for Honeycomb. It is no surprise that they are withholding a product that was specifically designed for and still incomplete on the xoom. If they put out the source code small companies as well as every **** and jane could peddle incredibly ****ty software with google branding with a side pile of bricks large enough to build a bridge to russia. They rushed the release because of the Ipad 2. **** works OK. Give them some time to make 3.0 play nice with pretty much everything else, and if that includes phones, it might take awhile. Be patient.

I tried taking off my aluminum hat for a while, but the alien voices in my head returned - Kept telling me: "Buy a XOOM, Buy a XOOM, Buy a XOOM...very distracting..

 

[Digital Man]

All of this is not entirely true. The Holy Grail in business doesn't always mean you have to do hardware and OS. One pure example of where it didn't work out as planned is Nokia. Grant it there is more involved that just this, but it just serves as an example.

Mobile is a very complex platform that involves many, many factors. In fact one of Apples biggest moves in our decade was to switch from making their own in house processors(their own hardware) and to go with x86 Intel Chips (someone elses hardware). Yes apple puts the hardware together, but its not just their own hardware. Even for the iphone and ipad, do you know who makes the CPU/GPU for Apple phones? They partnered with a company called Samsung, who also makes android phones.

Motorola isn't rumored to be making their own OS, they are, but the kind of OS they are looking to build is much different from the android or apple. From what I have read in the technology articles they are building a web based phones, which is still very much an untapped market and will most likely be different than a smartphone experience. Motorola has done a solid job with the android platform so far. I love my droid, the droid X is great, the Atrix is a smart idea, and the Xoom is a solid device(all my personal opinion) , I think motorola is one of the best android devices out there right now and it makes sense for them to explore new territory, like they did with the Atrix. Honestly the other companies like HP need to find a way to compete in a sea of android devices especially with great manufactures like HTC and Motorola, i think its smart that they choose to differentiate themselves.(again my opinion)

There is no right way to do a business. Whether you choose to focus in do good in one thing, or create an empire that does many amazing things, every business has their way to what they do. I am not dissing apple, android, microsoft, nokia, you or anyone. But please you cannot break down these very complex companies with thousands of employees, dozens of divisions across the world into simple black and white answers.

Very well put and informative response. Thanks.

" the kind of OS they are looking to build is much different from the android or apple. From what I have read in the technology articles they are building a web based phones, which is still very much an untapped market and will most likely be different than a smartphone experience."

Interesting point.

 

[socomdark]

Can't compare the nexus one to the xoom cause the nexus one actually worked when it was released. My nexus one is still faster than many of today's current phones.

Xoom is just a classic case of hardware not being well integrated enough with the software on launch. If moto released it in April, and ironed out all the bugs first, the tablet would probably be ok!

Yes the nexus one worked but it wasn't without its flaws too. Otherwise their wouldn't have been a 2.2.1 or 2.2.2 update. Same thing with gingerbread. The xoom is stable enough for consumer use but honeycomb probably still needs some refinements before devs start romming/porting it

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[cwizardtx]

Not seeing anything for the past week or so when it comes to development, kernel updates, custom themes....etc. Has development halted already? Would be satisfied even with a debloated, optimized stock Honeycomb ROM. The Thunderbolt had its first ROM 2 days after launch and it was opened up before it was even released...what gives, a so called open tablet and nothing. Anything to give me faith again that I don't own a 800.00 bookend would be appreciated.

Then I was thinking about the Nexus One.....Maybe this Xoom is the Nexus One of the Tablet market & will be the developmental Tablet that everyone does everything on.....I'm just so confused at this point I don't know what to do

Sell your Xoom and get the Ipad5, obviously. Or just wait for the Galaxy tab XXIV

 

[falconeight]

Here is my view and I wish the xoom was worthy. I bought it day one because the hardware and new honeycomb os was very promising. I love my nexus one and it has a permanent place as a collectors item, alongside my bold 9700 and iPhone. When I opened it up and began using it I was more than content. The screen was decent, keyboard responsive, had a few nice apps, and the battery had great life. Then after a day or two I grew bored. There is no media for the device. Netflix, hulu, or something decent would be nice. Then it crashed often and that got annoying. The galaxy tab has da sings movie download service and gives you $50 to use it. iPad has everything that you would need. I wanted and want to like xoom or honeycomb for that matter, but right now neither are ready.

 

[land2634]

I will say, that I have had some fun with my xoom, but with any toy the xoom in my house has joined my other obsolete toys on my closet shelf. It was a interesting tablet computer I just haven't found much use for my xoom other than playing converted movies. I will just leave it in the box on the shelf, and someday someone will buy it from me at one of my wife's garage sales.

Ha, I hope I stumble across your wife's garage sale...

 

[mobilehavoc]

Just because they're not ready for you doesn't mean they're not ready. I find it fun buying something early and riding along as things are fixed and updated. Its a blast.

Here is my view and I wish the xoom was worthy. I bought it day one because the hardware and new honeycomb os was very promising. I love my nexus one and it has a permanent place as a collectors item, alongside my bold 9700 and iPhone. When I opened it up and began using it I was more than content. The screen was decent, keyboard responsive, had a few nice apps, and the battery had great life. Then after a day or two I grew bored. There is no media for the device. Netflix, hulu, or something decent would be nice. Then it crashed often and that got annoying. The galaxy tab has da sings movie download service and gives you $50 to use it. iPad has everything that you would need. I wanted and want to like xoom or honeycomb for that matter, but right now neither are ready.

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