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my name is Aniki and in search for another smartphone with more privacy etc. When I go to a search online with keywords like, secure, privacy, encrypted I get many reslults, from all over the world. The joke is, 99% from sellers use the same head in their website and written "the most secure smartphone from the world".

My english is poor, so is my knowledge about tech, meaning the for you standard things. Maybe because I grew up without internet, if I remember I was around 17 when first came online, ICQ, MSN groups, YAHOO chat, Ebay.com and some ***** was my favorite. But, if I want something, or have a warning light coming up in the car, I read the code and search until found the problem and solution, then I can fix it myself or bring it to a specialist.

I have learn that secure and privacy is not the same, I understand now that for exaple a smartphone can secure about storage what is encrypted but maybe there is no privacy about who, where you are and what you do. Now you understand my level (below zero) about tech, support, custom etc.

I was looking for a Linux phone, like the Pro1 X because I think it is good to support company's what make hardware Linux related, if we don't, we never get/ see a flagship?! Also looking other phone's like Libreum 5 but $1300,- lead time 1 year! or lead time 2 months for a $1999,- shipping $80,- incurence ? then my country tax around $500,- maybe is to much for this device when reading their forum with some little problems, I don't mind pay a little more because a company is not big enough like a Apple so the costs are higher, but if it is not perfect, or verry good, then every time when send it back I need to pay tax when I get it back from them, if it was in EU I would give them a chance. I can go waste more of your time by calling all the one's I was interested and why or why not, like the Bittium 2, Nitrophone2, Brax2 phone, Privy2.0 by Blackphone but quess you have more importend things to do.

I am not realy needed a complete secret/ secure encrypted cryptophone or smartphone, BUT I really don't like when talking to people about for example a e-bike or new laptop, then cpl hours later when surfing online get adds about e-bike's and laptop's, same when chat, phonecall or sending pictures to others it is private and "our thing" . I pay for my iPhone, Laptop etc, so know I little understand about Google, Apple and more, I can choose if I want to let them in my private life or not, before no knowledge and paying for it is I think a crime.

So my choice for smartphone in complete pack what I like/ want or "need" is maybe a Pixel 6 Pro with GrapheneOs, or a S22 Ultra with custom rom, and that's how I get here, searching S22 Ultra DeGoogleD only find people in Reddit or fora say's only Pixels, then I forgotten maybe I used keyword like custom or encrypted. Came on a Hong Kong seller with S22 Ultra custom rom from theirself in combination KNOX etc etc extra encrypted for $3K+, then I was thinking maybe fake because I read everywhere it is impossible with Galaxy S22 so I search again then found some different website's but most and complete explain about it was here. I see how people explain with detail and patience for noobs like me, so I start reading now and maybe, for sure have questions about things, then at least I can do is introduce myself a little, and how/ why I am here.

I understand about DeGoogleD phone, and was thinking about the S22 Ultra custom rom, it is the same as DeGoogleD right, or are there still Google things in after? Is here some one what have used or study both, Pixel 6 (pro) DeGoogleD and S22 Ultra with LineageOS? My experiance is only iPhone, and want to find out the pro and cons about this 2, all info is welcome, and if I need to open another topic for this I can copy paste?

Have a good day! Aniki.

Nothing to hide is not the same as nothing to loose...
 

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my name is Aniki and in search for another smartphone with more privacy etc. When I go to a search online with keywords like, secure, privacy, encrypted I get many reslults, from all over the world. The joke is, 99% from sellers use the same head in their website and written "the most secure smartphone from the world".

My english is poor, so is my knowledge about tech, meaning the for you standard things. Maybe because I grew up without internet, if I remember I was around 17 when first came online, ICQ, MSN groups, YAHOO chat, Ebay.com and some ***** was my favorite. But, if I want something, or have a warning light coming up in the car, I read the code and search until found the problem and solution, then I can fix it myself or bring it to a specialist.

I have learn that secure and privacy is not the same, I understand now that for exaple a smartphone can secure about storage what is encrypted but maybe there is no privacy about who, where you are and what you do. Now you understand my level (below zero) about tech, support, custom etc.

I was looking for a Linux phone, like the Pro1 X because I think it is good to support company's what make hardware Linux related, if we don't, we never get/ see a flagship?! Also looking other phone's like Libreum 5 but $1300,- lead time 1 year! or lead time 2 months for a $1999,- shipping $80,- incurence ? then my country tax around $500,- maybe is to much for this device when reading their forum with some little problems, I don't mind pay a little more because a company is not big enough like a Apple so the costs are higher, but if it is not perfect, or verry good, then every time when send it back I need to pay tax when I get it back from them, if it was in EU I would give them a chance. I can go waste more of your time by calling all the one's I was interested and why or why not, like the Bittium 2, Nitrophone2, Brax2 phone, Privy2.0 by Blackphone but quess you have more importend things to do.

I am not realy needed a complete secret/ secure encrypted cryptophone or smartphone, BUT I really don't like when talking to people about for example a e-bike or new laptop, then cpl hours later when surfing online get adds about e-bike's and laptop's, same when chat, phonecall or sending pictures to others it is private and "our thing" . I pay for my iPhone, Laptop etc, so know I little understand about Google, Apple and more, I can choose if I want to let them in my private life or not, before no knowledge and paying for it is I think a crime.

So my choice for smartphone in complete pack what I like/ want or "need" is maybe a Pixel 6 Pro with GrapheneOs, or a S22 Ultra with custom rom, and that's how I get here, searching S22 Ultra DeGoogleD only find people in Reddit or fora say's only Pixels, then I forgotten maybe I used keyword like custom or encrypted. Came on a Hong Kong seller with S22 Ultra custom rom from theirself in combination KNOX etc etc extra encrypted for $3K+, then I was thinking maybe fake because I read everywhere it is impossible with Galaxy S22 so I search again then found some different website's but most and complete explain about it was here. I see how people explain with detail and patience for noobs like me, so I start reading now and maybe, for sure have questions about things, then at least I can do is introduce myself a little, and how/ why I am here.

I understand about DeGoogleD phone, and was thinking about the S22 Ultra custom rom, it is the same as DeGoogleD right, or are there still Google things in after? Is here some one what have used or study both, Pixel 6 (pro) DeGoogleD and S22 Ultra with LineageOS? My experiance is only iPhone, and want to find out the pro and cons about this 2, all info is welcome, and if I need to open another topic for this I can copy paste?

Have a good day! Aniki.

Nothing to hide is not the same as nothing to loose...
Hello Aniki and welcome to XDA
Nice intro!
 
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Hello Aniki and welcome to XDA ifyou truly want secure and private, your notgoingto beable to use the majojority of apps or sites, google and apple are always going to collect your data, and even with gappsless roms youstill need to give gps location permissions to use certain apps,my advice is to find an acceptable compromise
 
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Aniki020

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Hi Gav83Collins, thank you for info plus advice. I know I need to realize that when change device for go private it should be a major different from how I use my iPhone now.

I do not need to send/ share political or illegal messages/ files, but the idea that alway’s being watched or in control from a big tech company makes me feel uncomfortable. In my country the public points a finger to China, Russia or other “far” away country and say the human have no freedom of speak etc. But now we see it is not a China or Russian problem, it is here in the EU, but also in the USA, just for example here in the EU they maybe have a better way to let you think that you are free and all is democratic. But in the end it’s all the same.

Do you have experience about or with DeGoogle devices? Because if I good understand a Samsung S22 Ultra with custom ROM is the same idea like a Pixel 6 Pro DeGoogleD? But when I search for Samsung DeGoogleD, the only thing I find is that this is not possible… or is that because it is not official support by a custom ROM?

The apps I use mostly is Waze (Google), and YouTube (Google), then mail, online surfing but no games. So if I step to another device I just use it for basic communication and look for a similar app like Waze, YouTube for Odessy or another, not search for it yet.
 

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    my name is Aniki and in search for another smartphone with more privacy etc. When I go to a search online with keywords like, secure, privacy, encrypted I get many reslults, from all over the world. The joke is, 99% from sellers use the same head in their website and written "the most secure smartphone from the world".

    My english is poor, so is my knowledge about tech, meaning the for you standard things. Maybe because I grew up without internet, if I remember I was around 17 when first came online, ICQ, MSN groups, YAHOO chat, Ebay.com and some ***** was my favorite. But, if I want something, or have a warning light coming up in the car, I read the code and search until found the problem and solution, then I can fix it myself or bring it to a specialist.

    I have learn that secure and privacy is not the same, I understand now that for exaple a smartphone can secure about storage what is encrypted but maybe there is no privacy about who, where you are and what you do. Now you understand my level (below zero) about tech, support, custom etc.

    I was looking for a Linux phone, like the Pro1 X because I think it is good to support company's what make hardware Linux related, if we don't, we never get/ see a flagship?! Also looking other phone's like Libreum 5 but $1300,- lead time 1 year! or lead time 2 months for a $1999,- shipping $80,- incurence ? then my country tax around $500,- maybe is to much for this device when reading their forum with some little problems, I don't mind pay a little more because a company is not big enough like a Apple so the costs are higher, but if it is not perfect, or verry good, then every time when send it back I need to pay tax when I get it back from them, if it was in EU I would give them a chance. I can go waste more of your time by calling all the one's I was interested and why or why not, like the Bittium 2, Nitrophone2, Brax2 phone, Privy2.0 by Blackphone but quess you have more importend things to do.

    I am not realy needed a complete secret/ secure encrypted cryptophone or smartphone, BUT I really don't like when talking to people about for example a e-bike or new laptop, then cpl hours later when surfing online get adds about e-bike's and laptop's, same when chat, phonecall or sending pictures to others it is private and "our thing" . I pay for my iPhone, Laptop etc, so know I little understand about Google, Apple and more, I can choose if I want to let them in my private life or not, before no knowledge and paying for it is I think a crime.

    So my choice for smartphone in complete pack what I like/ want or "need" is maybe a Pixel 6 Pro with GrapheneOs, or a S22 Ultra with custom rom, and that's how I get here, searching S22 Ultra DeGoogleD only find people in Reddit or fora say's only Pixels, then I forgotten maybe I used keyword like custom or encrypted. Came on a Hong Kong seller with S22 Ultra custom rom from theirself in combination KNOX etc etc extra encrypted for $3K+, then I was thinking maybe fake because I read everywhere it is impossible with Galaxy S22 so I search again then found some different website's but most and complete explain about it was here. I see how people explain with detail and patience for noobs like me, so I start reading now and maybe, for sure have questions about things, then at least I can do is introduce myself a little, and how/ why I am here.

    I understand about DeGoogleD phone, and was thinking about the S22 Ultra custom rom, it is the same as DeGoogleD right, or are there still Google things in after? Is here some one what have used or study both, Pixel 6 (pro) DeGoogleD and S22 Ultra with LineageOS? My experiance is only iPhone, and want to find out the pro and cons about this 2, all info is welcome, and if I need to open another topic for this I can copy paste?

    Have a good day! Aniki.

    Nothing to hide is not the same as nothing to loose...
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    my name is Aniki and in search for another smartphone with more privacy etc. When I go to a search online with keywords like, secure, privacy, encrypted I get many reslults, from all over the world. The joke is, 99% from sellers use the same head in their website and written "the most secure smartphone from the world".

    My english is poor, so is my knowledge about tech, meaning the for you standard things. Maybe because I grew up without internet, if I remember I was around 17 when first came online, ICQ, MSN groups, YAHOO chat, Ebay.com and some ***** was my favorite. But, if I want something, or have a warning light coming up in the car, I read the code and search until found the problem and solution, then I can fix it myself or bring it to a specialist.

    I have learn that secure and privacy is not the same, I understand now that for exaple a smartphone can secure about storage what is encrypted but maybe there is no privacy about who, where you are and what you do. Now you understand my level (below zero) about tech, support, custom etc.

    I was looking for a Linux phone, like the Pro1 X because I think it is good to support company's what make hardware Linux related, if we don't, we never get/ see a flagship?! Also looking other phone's like Libreum 5 but $1300,- lead time 1 year! or lead time 2 months for a $1999,- shipping $80,- incurence ? then my country tax around $500,- maybe is to much for this device when reading their forum with some little problems, I don't mind pay a little more because a company is not big enough like a Apple so the costs are higher, but if it is not perfect, or verry good, then every time when send it back I need to pay tax when I get it back from them, if it was in EU I would give them a chance. I can go waste more of your time by calling all the one's I was interested and why or why not, like the Bittium 2, Nitrophone2, Brax2 phone, Privy2.0 by Blackphone but quess you have more importend things to do.

    I am not realy needed a complete secret/ secure encrypted cryptophone or smartphone, BUT I really don't like when talking to people about for example a e-bike or new laptop, then cpl hours later when surfing online get adds about e-bike's and laptop's, same when chat, phonecall or sending pictures to others it is private and "our thing" . I pay for my iPhone, Laptop etc, so know I little understand about Google, Apple and more, I can choose if I want to let them in my private life or not, before no knowledge and paying for it is I think a crime.

    So my choice for smartphone in complete pack what I like/ want or "need" is maybe a Pixel 6 Pro with GrapheneOs, or a S22 Ultra with custom rom, and that's how I get here, searching S22 Ultra DeGoogleD only find people in Reddit or fora say's only Pixels, then I forgotten maybe I used keyword like custom or encrypted. Came on a Hong Kong seller with S22 Ultra custom rom from theirself in combination KNOX etc etc extra encrypted for $3K+, then I was thinking maybe fake because I read everywhere it is impossible with Galaxy S22 so I search again then found some different website's but most and complete explain about it was here. I see how people explain with detail and patience for noobs like me, so I start reading now and maybe, for sure have questions about things, then at least I can do is introduce myself a little, and how/ why I am here.

    I understand about DeGoogleD phone, and was thinking about the S22 Ultra custom rom, it is the same as DeGoogleD right, or are there still Google things in after? Is here some one what have used or study both, Pixel 6 (pro) DeGoogleD and S22 Ultra with LineageOS? My experiance is only iPhone, and want to find out the pro and cons about this 2, all info is welcome, and if I need to open another topic for this I can copy paste?

    Have a good day! Aniki.

    Nothing to hide is not the same as nothing to loose...
    Hello Aniki and welcome to XDA
    Nice intro!
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    Hello Aniki and welcome to XDA ifyou truly want secure and private, your notgoingto beable to use the majojority of apps or sites, google and apple are always going to collect your data, and even with gappsless roms youstill need to give gps location permissions to use certain apps,my advice is to find an acceptable compromise