Help a Dumb Noob Out?

[boogieboogie]

Hey guys,

i know how much answering the same questions can be tedious. It irks me too sometimes. I read through 30 pages of the cyanogenMod thread and im still left with questions. I went through the Wiki, Youtube, everywhere that i could learn more and im still lost. I think its partly because everybody that takes apart in the discussion seems to already have android knowledge. I came from a iphone so all this tinkering is VERY new to me.

Looking at the cyanogenmod wiki page, it showed me how to install rom step by step. surprisingly, it looks easy. but as i was looking through the thread, the word "nandroid" popped out MULTIPLE times. i went back to the wiki and read it over but no where does it say anything about nandroid. so i googled it, and its a back up program.

my question is, is nandroid required? if so (get ready for the onslaught of questions) where could i get step by step directions on how to use nandroid. im also trying to figure out how to restore from nandroid.

this scenario popped up, im using CM6 and i want to restore to the stock rom. what would be the steps i would take to get to stock? something with nandroid? or just download the stock rom and put it on my sd and boot from there?

another thing that puzzles me is, what would the process be in updating the CM6 roms with the incremental updates that are released every few weeks.

i thought CM6 was hard to follow so i went to the liberated thread. but than these directions
"Do a nandroid backup to preserve your current rom
Wipe Data (if coming from another rom, including CM6 or liberated_aria non-deodexed version, or to enable additional languages from previous version)
Wipe Cache
Wipe dalvik cache (advanced > wipe dalvik cache)
Install liberated_aria_R00*_signed.zip from sdcard"

left me more puzzled. wipe data as in do the factory restore from settings? how would i wipe the cache and delvik cache? what is the diff between the regular and deodexed version?

this is just giving me a headache. the necessary info seems to be everywhere and not in one place. URGHFDhSFlsdlfgjndlkngkdfs. maybe i should go back to the iphone.

thanks to anybody who actually reads this essay lol.

 

[zervic]

Hey guys,

i know how much answering the same questions can be tedious. It irks me too sometimes. I read through 30 pages of the cyanogenMod thread and im still left with questions. I went through the Wiki, Youtube, everywhere that i could learn more and im still lost. I think its partly because everybody that takes apart in the discussion seems to already have android knowledge. I came from a iphone so all this tinkering is VERY new to me.

Looking at the cyanogenmod wiki page, it showed me how to install rom step by step. surprisingly, it looks easy. but as i was looking through the thread, the word "nandroid" popped out MULTIPLE times. i went back to the wiki and read it over but no where does it say anything about nandroid. so i googled it, and its a back up program.

my question is, is nandroid required? if so (get ready for the onslaught of questions) where could i get step by step directions on how to use nandroid. im also trying to figure out how to restore from nandroid.

this scenario popped up, im using CM6 and i want to restore to the stock rom. what would be the steps i would take to get to stock? something with nandroid? or just download the stock rom and put it on my sd and boot from there?

another thing that puzzles me is, what would the process be in updating the CM6 roms with the incremental updates that are released every few weeks.

i thought CM6 was hard to follow so i went to the liberated thread. but than these directions
"Do a nandroid backup to preserve your current rom
Wipe Data (if coming from another rom, including CM6 or liberated_aria non-deodexed version, or to enable additional languages from previous version)
Wipe Cache
Wipe dalvik cache (advanced > wipe dalvik cache)
Install liberated_aria_R00*_signed.zip from sdcard"

left me more puzzled. wipe data as in do the factory restore from settings? how would i wipe the cache and delvik cache? what is the diff between the regular and deodexed version?

this is just giving me a headache. the necessary info seems to be everywhere and not in one place. URGHFDhSFlsdlfgjndlkngkdfs. maybe i should go back to the iphone.

thanks to anybody who actually reads this essay lol.

Lol...we all gotta start somewhere anyway, number one: nandroid is part of clockwork recoverymod...I don't remember back to when I rooted BUT I do know that following the process of rooting my phone, afterwards I had clockwork recovery installed. This is accessed by powering down your phone and while booting up you press power and hold volume down. Once in there you use volume up/down to navigate options and power to select. Um lets see here, as for updating. You would simply download the zip place it on root directory of your SD card, boot into clockwork, wipe cache and then flash the zip.

The wipe cache, dalvik, etc is all done through clockwork. General rule of thumb is to do a nandroid backup before you flash anything. That way if anything goes wrong, you can restore your backup.

Is nandroid required? Um...hard to answer that question. I believe clockwork recovery mod IS required and since nandroid is part of clockwork, then yea lol...

If I missed anything let me know because I'm on my phone so its a little difficult to keep scrolling up to scroll back down to type what I need to type.

Also, if I was wrong on anything, please someone point it out so we (i) don't mislead him.

Sent From My HTC Aria Using XDA App

 

[delutedsoul23]

i too came from a jailbroken iphone to android and i feel like android clockworkmod recovery helps make the flash/install a breeze. i think the hardest part of coming from an iphone to android is just the onslaught of new phrases and words..but i will help as much as i can pm me if you want and i will help as much as my knowlege will allow...but trust me on this dont go back to an idont.

 

[oahceasgnikgneas]

my question is, is nandroid required? if so (get ready for the onslaught of questions) where could i get step by step directions on how to use nandroid. im also trying to figure out how to restore from nandroid.

nandroid is something that you can utilize to make nandroid backups if you have Clockworkmod recovery for the Aria. Do you have to use it? No. Do you have to have it? Yes, if you have Clockworkmod recovery installed.

How is Clockworkmod recovery installed? It is automatically installed and replaces your stock recovery when you root your phone using the latest versions of the Unrevoked tool.

In order to use nandroid for backup you:
1. Reboot into Clockworkmod recovery (either through an application like ROM Manager, the option presented during power off in Cyanogenmod 6, or by turning the phone completely off and then holding the volume down button during power on). DO NOT enter Clockworkmod recovery by powering off the phone with the micro USB cable attached to a power source (it won't work reliably in this manner).
2. Go to "nandroid"
3. Click "Backup"

The backup takes a few hundred megabytes (mine are about 200-350 MB each) on your SD card so make sure you have available space.

In order to use nandroid for recovery you:
1. Reboot into Clockworkmod recovery as listed above.
2. Go to "nandroid"
3. Click "Restore"
4. Select the backup you want to recover from.
5. Select "Yes - Restore"

this scenario popped up, im using CM6 and i want to restore to the stock rom. what would be the steps i would take to get to stock? something with nandroid? or just download the stock rom and put it on my sd and boot from there?

By stock I mean everything on your phone is exactly as it is when you first purchased it, no root or Clockworkmod recovery.

To get back to stock you don't use nandroid. If you think about it, nandroid backups came after you have Clockworkmod recovery installed, which came with rooting your phone. Therefore, your first backup would not be stock, but rather from your rooted phone.

To get to back to stock you would follow the instructions here

another thing that puzzles me is, what would the process be in updating the CM6 roms with the incremental updates that are released every few weeks.

i thought CM6 was hard to follow so i went to the liberated thread. but than these directions
"Do a nandroid backup to preserve your current rom
Wipe Data (if coming from another rom, including CM6 or liberated_aria non-deodexed version, or to enable additional languages from previous version)
Wipe Cache
Wipe dalvik cache (advanced > wipe dalvik cache)
Install liberated_aria_R00*_signed.zip from sdcard"

left me more puzzled. wipe data as in do the factory restore from settings? how would i wipe the cache and delvik cache? what is the diff between the regular and deodexed version?

All of the quoted steps are performed in Clockworkmod recovery.

nandroid backups are as explained above.

"wipe data/factory reset" is an option under Clockworkmod recovery and I only do so under the conditions you quoted.

Wipe cache refers to "wipe cache partition" option under Clockworkmod recovery.

Wipe dalvik cache is done in Clockworkmod recovery by:
1. Selecting "Advanced"
2. Clicking "Wipe Dalvik Cache"

Once you have CM6 or Liberated installed, performing incremental updates can be done by:
1. Putting the ROM update onto the SD card.
2. Rebooting into Clockworkmod recovery
3. (Optional step) Performing a nandroid backup
4. Selecting "install zip from sdcard"
5. Selecting "choose zip from sdcard" and selecting wherever you put the ROM update on your SD card.

Hopefully that all made sense and was helpful.

 

[boogieboogie]

i first to say thanks for the replies. i assumed that i would get backlash for asking such stupid questions but boy was i wrong. i really appreciate it guys

so when would a person use nandroid? so lets say you make a nandroid back up right after you unroot it, than you load up CM6 or liberated. do you use the nandroid back up when you want to go back to the time where it was just rooted? Want to make sure this is the process if i ever get tired of those roms.

and its as simple as doing the power down..etc etc method?

 

[CallMeAria]

i first to say thanks for the replies. i assumed that i would get backlash for asking such stupid questions but boy was i wrong. i really appreciate it guys

so when would a person use nandroid? so lets say you make a nandroid back up right after you unroot it, than you load up CM6 or liberated. do you use the nandroid back up when you want to go back to the time where it was just rooted? Want to make sure this is the process if i ever get tired of those roms.

and its as simple as doing the power down..etc etc method?

Yup Nandroid is basically an exact image of your phone at the time you perform the backup. When you restore it your phone goes back to the exact state it was in when you made the backup...apps, rom, everything. So you would want to do a backup any time you want to try a new rom or make a change to your current rom.

And to restore you simply boot the phone into recovery and choose restore (from the same menu you make your backup from). You can also have more than one backup at a time, though it takes up a bit of space on the SD card. I keep one backup on my SD and just keep any others I want on my computer.

 

[superman2112ms]

nandroid

Is only one back up kept on the phone? As in the most recent, or will I have a copy for everytime I do a nandroid back up. I noticed that when I did a restore I did not have an option to choose a restore.

 

[drumist]

You can have as many as you can fit on your SD card. It should bring up a list when you click Restore.