Help DZ noob to flash KitKat onto it

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ch3mn3y

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So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it :) ) would be better.

Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619

Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?

Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).

What I should do now?
 

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So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it :) ) would be better.

Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619

Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?

Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).

What I should do now?

Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
 
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So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?

Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...

However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms :)

I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
 

demkantor

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So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?

Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...

However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms :)

I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...

Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
 
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If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete

If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote

Sent using XT1562 - Resurrection Remix/Optimus Kernel

EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer :)

However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 :p)? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
 
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    So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it :) ) would be better.

    Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
    I found this:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619

    Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?

    Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).

    What I should do now?

    Hey buddy,
    Take a look through the first few posts here
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
    It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
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    So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?

    Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...

    However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
    If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms :)

    I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...

    Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
    Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
    If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
    If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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    Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...

    Sent using XT1562 - Resurrection Remix/Optimus Kernel
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