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Which bootloader does Android 5.0 and 5.1 of Custom roms supports? im on stock 4.2.2 and have the 30.B4 BL. Can i flash it? Or i have to update to stock 4.4 30.B7 BL to get this rom work? i dont know why the devs dont mention the supported Bootloader in the information of the rom. Its so confusing. Help please
im going to flash ether the Blisspop5.0 or the official 5.1.0 Aicp rom. Please let me know which bootloader does these two roms supports.. im stuck cant proceed without getting info about bootloaders.
 

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Which bootloader does Android 5.0 and 5.1 of Custom roms supports? im on stock 4.2.2 and have the 30.B4 BL. Can i flash it? Or i have to update to stock 4.4 30.B7 BL to get this rom work? i dont know why the devs dont mention the supported Bootloader in the information of the rom. Its so confusing. Help please
im going to flash ether the Blisspop5.0 or the official 5.1.0 Aicp rom. Please let me know which bootloader does these two roms supports.. im stuck cant proceed without getting info about bootloaders.
I recommend that you go to 4.4.4 with all flashed. And then use the custom ROM you want. Because custom roms doesn't have anything to do with boot loader. They will work anyways. But don't flash any 5.x+ boot loader and then downgrade because you'll get a brick.

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I recommend that you go to 4.4.4 with all flashed. And then use the custom ROM you want. Because custom roms doesn't have anything to do with boot loader. They will work anyways. But don't flash any 5.x+ boot loader and then downgrade because you'll get a brick.

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Thanks alot for your reply sir. Finally someone replied im happy!! Thanks alot!! one more question sir if i flash the tmobile 4.4 firmware on my Rogers canada 4.2.2 firmware through rsd lite will my Bootloader get locked? I have my boot loader unlocked but im scared to flash stock firmware because i dont want to get my boot loader locked again!! help please thanks in advance!!
 

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Thanks alot for your reply sir. Finally someone replied im happy!! Thanks alot!! one more question sir if i flash the tmobile 4.4 firmware on my Rogers canada 4.2.2 firmware through rsd lite will my Bootloader get locked? I have my boot loader unlocked but im scared to flash stock firmware because i dont want to get my boot loader locked again!! help please thanks in advance!!
You should flash the latest software for your phone, I mean Rogers software. But which model is your X?

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You should flash the latest software for your phone, I mean Rogers software. But which model is your X?

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Sir yes i will flash latest software.. you didn't get my question i was asking about the bootloader look if i flash a stock firmware though RSD LITE will my boot loader get locked or will it stay unlocked? im currently BL unlocked.
 

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Sir yes i will flash latest software.. you didn't get my question i was asking about the bootloader look if i flash a stock firmware though RSD LITE will my boot loader get locked or will it stay unlocked? im currently BL unlocked.
Your question asked about flashing a T-Mobile (XT1053) rom on your Rogers (XT1058) device.. hence the reply to flash the latest for your model/carrier.

That being said...

Flashing a Stock Motorola ROM/SBF with RSDLite or Fastboot will not relock your bootloader.

If you obtained the bootloader Unlock code (from Moto, the older China Middleman, etc) and unlocked via fasboot oem unlock {unique code} , then your bootloader will not relock unless you do the process and issue the FASTBOOT OEM LOCK command... and in that case, as long as you still have your code, you can unlock it again anyway.

Now, if you had used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader, as far as I know (but I didn't use Sunshine, so I could be wrong), the OEM Lock process/command is the only way to relock the bootloader, BUT then you wont be able to unlock it anymore.
 
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Your question asked about flashing a T-Mobile (XT1053) rom on your Rogers (XT1058) device.. hence the reply to flash the latest for your model/carrier.

That being said...

Flashing a Stock Motorola ROM/SBF with RSDLite or Fastboot will not relock your bootloader.

If you obtained the bootloader Unlock code (from Moto, the older China Middleman, etc) and unlocked via fasboot oem unlock {unique code} , then your bootloader will not relock unless you do the process and issue the FASTBOOT OEM LOCK command... and in that case, as long as you still have your code, you can unlock it again anyway.

Now, if you had used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader, as far as I know (but I didn't use Sunshine, so I could be wrong), the OEM Lock process/command is the only way to relock the bootloader, BUT then you wont be able to unlock it anymore.

NOW THATS EXACTLY what the piece of information I wanted!!! I salute you sir thanks alot finally 10hours+ of searching the whole internet paid off and now I have everything in my mind about my moto X. However I dont know how my phone's bootloader has been unlocked because when I bought this phone the bootlaoder was already unlocked... I dont know the history... But you've cleared this thing very thoroughly for me.. So now im going to RSD lite the Tmo firmware and will let you guys know how it went... Thanks again :good:
 

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...So now im going to RSD lite the Tmo firmware and will let you guys know how it went... Thanks again :good:
Again, you said you have a ROGERS XT1058... T-Mo firmware is for T-Mobile's XT1053... in other words, different model and different carrier. Which its already been said to use the firmware for the SAME model and carrier as the phone you have.

If you flash firmware meant for a different model/carrier you are doing so at your own risk. While it could work, we've seen cases of it NOT working.

If you flash firmware for a different model/carrier and something goes wrong, you may not be able to get back to a working phone any time soon.
 
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Again, you said you have a ROGERS XT1058... T-Mo firmware is for T-Mobile's XT1053... in other words, different model and different carrier. Which its already been said to use the firmware for the SAME model and carrier as the phone you have.

If you flash firmware meant for a different model/carrier you are doing so at your own risk. While it could work, we've seen cases of it NOT working.

If you flash firmware for a different model/carrier and something goes wrong, you may not be able to get back to a working phone any time soon.
i was lucky that i haven't got time to start the flashing process and read your post before flashing the tmo XT1053 firmware... Thanks for saving me sir and i understand what you are saying I've already started downloading the exact firmware for my Rogers Canada Moto X right now which is 4.4 and has .RCI.CA in it so this firmware is specially made for the Rogers Moto x XT1058. From your opinion i i think it will be a good flash.. Thanks again sir.
 

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Hi guys,
I'm finally switching from my XT890 to XT1052 and I did lots of reading, i.e.: thx to @KidJoe for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 but I still have a few general questions, hope you guys don't mind :)

1) Is there a current way of using the hidden notification led for every day apps (gmail,whatsapp,...) (for a rooted phone of course)

2) Is it true that the Moto apps, such as the active display only work on stock roms and not any other custom rom? I saw some custom roms have active app included, is that a fan based app then and if so, does it work better / worse than the original Moto apps?

3) There is a cheer number of custom roms available, where should one get started? I'm basicially looking for a stable rom and I was fine on my Razr I to have only stock+xposed installed, but I was wondering if there is anything 'cool' out there that only a specific custom rom can offer what the stock rom doesn't have?

4) regarding upgrading: since we can use mfastboot, wouldn't it be able to only flash the modem+system files of (for example) lollipop to a 4.4.4 BL? Or does LP require a different gpt, newer bl (for whatever reason)

5) what exactly changed from v4 to v5 for the gpt, bl, motoboot.img files (besides a higher version number). I'm trying to understand the system behind of it :)

6) Just to doublecheck, starting with 4.4.4 root is only achieved by unlocking the bl+twrp/cm+su install?

7) How about using https://mofo.disekt.org/ for a pre rooted img? From what I understand moforoot can somehow sign a modified img that is flashable without unlocking the BL, is that correct?

8) Its not possible with a locked BL to flash firmware from a different variant cause the BL will check if its for a different CID (whatever the CID is...), is that correct?


Hope I didn't ask too many questions and of course, even when you only have 1 answer to one of my questions, it would be extremely helpful. Maybe we can even create a BIG FAQ with up2date information for future references :)
 

whizinc

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Hi guys,
I'm finally switching from my XT890 to XT1052 and I did lots of reading, i.e.: thx to @KidJoe for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 but I still have a few general questions, hope you guys don't mind :)

1) Is there a current way of using the hidden notification led for every day apps (gmail,whatsapp,...) (for a rooted phone of course)

2) Is it true that the Moto apps, such as the active display only work on stock roms and not any other custom rom? I saw some custom roms have active app included, is that a fan based app then and if so, does it work better / worse than the original Moto apps?

3) There is a cheer number of custom roms available, where should one get started? I'm basicially looking for a stable rom and I was fine on my Razr I to have only stock+xposed installed, but I was wondering if there is anything 'cool' out there that only a specific custom rom can offer what the stock rom doesn't have?

4) regarding upgrading: since we can use mfastboot, wouldn't it be able to only flash the modem+system files of (for example) lollipop to a 4.4.4 BL? Or does LP require a different gpt, newer bl (for whatever reason)

5) what exactly changed from v4 to v5 for the gpt, bl, motoboot.img files (besides a higher version number). I'm trying to understand the system behind of it :)

6) Just to doublecheck, starting with 4.4.4 root is only achieved by unlocking the bl+twrp/cm+su install?

7) How about using https://mofo.disekt.org/ for a pre rooted img? From what I understand moforoot can somehow sign a modified img that is flashable without unlocking the BL, is that correct?

8) Its not possible with a locked BL to flash firmware from a different variant cause the BL will check if its for a different CID (whatever the CID is...), is that correct?


Hope I didn't ask too many questions and of course, even when you only have 1 answer to one of my questions, it would be extremely helpful. Maybe we can even create a BIG FAQ with up2date information for future references :)
Your questions are really in details sir only the most senior people here can help you.... Well im here to answer some of your questions that i have knowledge about and i will be giving answers about them AFAIK.
Your Question (2): Yes, the active display of Motorola is only smooth and stable on the stock roms, and you cant get that stability and smoothness in the custom roms present for the moto x. I've ran many custom roms with the active display function on my X but i never got that much smoothness and stability that i got in the Original Stock Rom of the Moto X. But to do the conclusion still there is a chance that you would like the custom roms they have the active display shabby... but the other features present in the custom roms are worth it but lastly its on your own mind what you prefer. That concludes your Question from my side.

Your Question No (3): To be honest whether if you want to flash a custom rom or not totally depens on your own mind. A Custom rom can offer you many customizable functions and all the fancy things but still they aren't that stable as the original Rom of a phone... For starters The official and stable roms present on XDA will be a good deal for your there are alot of them i cant name them but do search for the *Official* *stable* ones they are pretty much stable roms you can get ATM for the Moto X. You asked what will the custom rom offer cooler than stock.. A custom will offer many perfromance,battery life,functionaity and customizability improvements over the stock rom.. You will have proper root in it to get all they sweet things you want for your phone but again it wont be as stable and easy as an apple pie [emoji14]. It is a Custom rom. I personally prefer Custom roms. This ends your question 2 by my side.

Your Question No (6): Yes if you want to achieve the proper kind of root and disbale the write protection you must unlock the BL! Otherwise you can root 4.4.2 with pieroot which is not a proprer root from my opinion. To sum up this question, YOU MUST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER OF YOUR PHONE to do any kind of changes in it. If you dont unlock then you'll be facing alot of problems and you will surrender at the end and stick with the stock phone or who knows you will get bricked?lol because without unlocking the BL it is always a risk to do any changes to the System of your phone.

Your Question (8): NO it is not possible to flash a different carrier/firmware without BL unlocked, even after you unlock the BL its still risky to flash another's carriers rom on your phone.. Always flash the exact Carriers firmware as your phone is and NEVER EVER TRY TO DOWNGRADE.

Okay brother thats all from my side hope it helps you to proceed and lets hope that other Senior fellows may answer your questions that i couldn't. And im still learning about development not a pro so bare any mistakes that i did.. I just thought that i should help you with all the information that i have in my mind because that what we do here. Good Luck bro and if this helps dont forget to hit the thanks button. [emoji2] [emoji106]
 

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I have a Verizon 2013 Moto X(XT1060) running 4.4.4(KXA21.12-L1.26) and I'm running Windows 7 64bit.

I'm trying to root my phone but I'm stuck trying to revert it to stock 4.4.4. I have the drivers install, it shows up in windows explorer and in device manager, RSD Lite recognizes the device as Fastboot ghost S when I'm in the bootloader and says it's connected, the firmware I'm trying to use is called "VZW_XT1060_4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.26_CFC_1FF.xml.zip", I've removed the "<step operation="getvar" var="max-download-size" />" line from the XML but whenever I try to start the flash I get an error saying "Failed flashing process. 2/17 flash partition "gpt.bin"-> Phone returned FAIL." and my phone reads "process oem command: fb_mode_set, getvar max-download-size, downloading 32768 bytes, done." I've tried moving the files multiple places, running RSD as admin and so far no luck and I completely wiped my phone. Any ideas?

edit: I fixed this by running SDL.exe as administrator in XP service pack 3 mode.
 
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gps not working

Pls some one help me I have put RR ROM and twrp recovery

---------- Post added at 12:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 AM ----------

Pls some one help me I have put RR ROM and twrp recovery
 

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Pls some one help me I have put RR ROM and twrp recovery

---------- Post added at 12:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 AM ----------

Pls some one help me I have put RR ROM and twrp recovery
What kind of help you need? I can't see it on your post.

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Hi guys,
I'm finally switching from my XT890 to XT1052 and I did lots of reading, i.e.: thx to @KidJoe for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 but I still have a few general questions, hope you guys don't mind :)

1) Is there a current way of using the hidden notification led for every day apps (gmail,whatsapp,...) (for a rooted phone of course)

2) Is it true that the Moto apps, such as the active display only work on stock roms and not any other custom rom? I saw some custom roms have active app included, is that a fan based app then and if so, does it work better / worse than the original Moto apps?

3) There is a cheer number of custom roms available, where should one get started? I'm basicially looking for a stable rom and I was fine on my Razr I to have only stock+xposed installed, but I was wondering if there is anything 'cool' out there that only a specific custom rom can offer what the stock rom doesn't have?

4) regarding upgrading: since we can use mfastboot, wouldn't it be able to only flash the modem+system files of (for example) lollipop to a 4.4.4 BL? Or does LP require a different gpt, newer bl (for whatever reason)

5) what exactly changed from v4 to v5 for the gpt, bl, motoboot.img files (besides a higher version number). I'm trying to understand the system behind of it :)

6) Just to doublecheck, starting with 4.4.4 root is only achieved by unlocking the bl+twrp/cm+su install?

7) How about using https://mofo.disekt.org/ for a pre rooted img? From what I understand moforoot can somehow sign a modified img that is flashable without unlocking the BL, is that correct?

8) Its not possible with a locked BL to flash firmware from a different variant cause the BL will check if its for a different CID (whatever the CID is...), is that correct?


Hope I didn't ask too many questions and of course, even when you only have 1 answer to one of my questions, it would be extremely helpful. Maybe we can even create a BIG FAQ with up2date information for future references :)
Best answers I can give...

#1 I Don't know. I haven't used it.

#2 The real moto apps for those features only work on custom roms based off stock Moto Roms (i.e. someone took the stock moto rom, de-bloated it, changed a few things, etc, but at its core is the stock moto rom). If its a FULL custom rom or based on AOSP, like say CM11/CM12, then the stock moto apps wont work and you have to use 3rd party apps that copy/mimic those functions. In that case, its really up to the app and its author on how well it works.

#3 Custom roms are a personal choice/preference. The "best" is always up for debate, and some will even say just stick to "stock with Xposed"

#4 I'll just ask you to read -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202 as it answers that question and more.

#5 Moto doesn't offer release notes or version info on these parts. So we never really know for sure.

#6 If you have an unlocked/unlockable bootloader, its always best to root via Unlock Bootloader -> Install TWRP and SuperSU. If you have LOCKED bootloader and can not unlock, then you have to find/wait for a hack. For details see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918

#7 That is for the Turbo with locked bootloader and does not work/apply for the 2013 X. The link I put in my answer to #6 does have info for the 2013 X w/4.4.4 and locked bootloader.

#8 With a locked bootloader, the phone checks if the ROM you are trying to flash is signed by Moto, and for the CID of your phone. So that prevents you from flashing something else.
 
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Hello. I buy moto x secondhand with custom rom installed (cm12) and bootloader unlock. Hearing the news that lollipop will come soon to our device, i want to go back to stock rom. The problem is, in my back case, the model of my X is xt1050. But when i check my imei in imei.info it says xt1055.

I had read that if i flash different carriers rom can break my phone. So what rom should i flash?
FYI: my bootloader version is 30.B7

I hope someone could help me

Thanks
 

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Hello. I buy moto x secondhand with custom rom installed (cm12) and bootloader unlock. Hearing the news that lollipop will come soon to our device, i want to go back to stock rom. The problem is, in my back case, the model of my X is xt1050. But when i check my imei in imei.info it says xt1055.

I had read that if i flash different carriers rom can break my phone. So what rom should i flash?
FYI: my bootloader version is 30.B7

I hope someone could help me

Thanks
Brother you dont have to believe some random website which is saying that it is XT1055.. if your back cover says its XT1050 then it must be XT050.. however if the back cover of your phone has been changed so no one can really say which it is.. Here's what you should do if you want to have the stock 5.1 rom read the thread (link given below) it shows a way to Install an official 5.1 rom on your phone through recovery and without even Flashing another carriers rom.. I think you should not flash another Carrier's firmware if you are not sure which model is your X.. So i think the safest method for you to enjoy the stock 5.1 firmware of X is to follow this thread because it will only flash system and boot it wont even touch the radio of your X so you are totally fine having official 5.1 this way... Hope it helps.. :good:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-install-5-1-lollipop-moto-x-t3089594
 
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Hello. I buy moto x secondhand with custom rom installed (cm12) and bootloader unlock. Hearing the news that lollipop will come soon to our device, i want to go back to stock rom. The problem is, in my back case, the model of my X is xt1050. But when i check my imei in imei.info it says xt1055.

I had read that if i flash different carriers rom can break my phone. So what rom should i flash?
FYI: my bootloader version is 30.B7

I hope someone could help me

Thanks
Unless someone changed the back of the case, you have an XT1050. Even then, 3rd party backs don't have model numbers on them, so if its a replacement back it shouldnt have a model stamped on it.

If my memory serves, the XT1050 is a regional CDMA variant. So finding the exact stock rom for your phone may be difficult. Looking at some of the sites that hosts roms, I don't see an XT1050 4.4.4 rom (you want 4.4.4 because of your 30.B7 bootloader).

Based on Wikipedia.. The XT1050 and XT1060 (verizon variant) have the same FCC ID, but for some reason, the XT1050 is listed as supporting 800/1900 for CDMA/EVDO and the XT1060 supports 850/1900 (verizon uses 850/1900).

So there is a possibility of flashing XT1060 rom onto an XT1050, BUT I can't find anyone who says they've done it successfully, without bricking.

While @whizinc suggested using the leaked 5.1, it can only be applied to a phone with an Unlocked bootloader. Since you say your are running CM, you should be unlocked. One other thing is, that is a backup of 5.1 from someone's XT1052 phone (GSM Based, no CDMA), so it might not be 100% smooth.
 
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@whizinc i already try that backup rom and i not fully satisfied with that.
@KidJoe thank you for your explanation. You're right, 4.4.4 for xt1050 very difficult to find. Until now i can't found them. The problem what i fear will happen is if the lollipop official come to all of our x and need to update bootloader, i need to pure stock rom so i can update. Right now i can flash xt1052 asia retail rom. But without the gpt and motoboot image. Because i use gsm provider and i live in Asia (Indonesia). There's not much problem so far, but i'm afraid when "that times" finally come to our beloved phone...

Just to clarify, is there a person who flash xt1060 on xt1050 and bricked? Or still no one try that?
 
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